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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: qman]
#26726245 - 06/07/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said: u tryna bait bro?...
not at all. this is a discussion that needs to be had in the community. many of us have wondered how it is possible for people so consumed with bitterness to remain so bitter even after using psychedelics because we have this intuition that taking psychedelics chips away at your ability to be bitter at the world. the article provides some interesting historical insights that challenge that intuition
To honest here, the only person demonstrating a high degree of bitterness is you at this point.
Do you think people really recognize their own biases?
Have you looked in the mirror and asked yourself about all of your biases against all sorts of different environments and people? Or did you skip with the self reflection, pat yourself on the back for not being 'racist' and then demand to others who disagree with you about their potential biases? The self righteousness is a little overwhelming here.
I think being bitter probably takes a lot of forms. And this reaction, I could argue it could happen for a variety of reasons. It's like, not all people become good upon recognizing a god. This is the biggest complaint against religion. So it's not so much about individual biases as it is a reflection/amplification of underlying desires and characteristics of who we are. I've said many times I see psychedelics as a kind of amplifier, it's why it's so variable. Like using a microscope - as the magnification becomes greater the sensitivity of the tool becomes more apparent, from the movement of the specimen to the things it allows you to see. No one said any one thing makes you a good person. Just like there's bad cops and good criminals. Idealogy isn't as simple as this person being friendly, or this person hating me. Sometimes smart people can make sense of dumb shit, imo it's one of the biggest humblers out there. Everyone is wrong, and anything can be true. That same little shit hellbent on pissing you off on the internet might be the same guy who'd actually stick up for you more than your own family would. And that is facts. That's life. And it's why it's great.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: The Blind Ass]
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I am actually more of a centrist, but the far right scares me more than the "far left", which frankly barely even exists in this country. People on the right have warped ideas about the political spectrun
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] 2
#26726251 - 06/07/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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azzbo said: Terrible thread, no point to engage with Op since hes already made up his mind.
Dishing out bad ratings and calling everyone a racist, maybe we should dose you with MDMA
Also witches are real
suck it!!
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Yes, i have made up my mind that racism and nazism are bad
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: lowbrow]
#26726257 - 06/07/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: Witchcraft is no more fake than psychiatry. That’s a fact.
In fact, modern psychiatry took a lot from witchcraft.
Carl Jung is huge among occultists.
psychiatry is bullshit too, shifting the goalpost doesnt work. If you are having a heart attack i can save your life much more effectively than a hoodoo practitioner. If you are having one and you would prefer not to die it is in your best interests to accept that fact, but i certainly wont try and force you to. That is all
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: SARAtonin] 1
#26726263 - 06/07/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If there are any more actual national socialists on the shroomery, they are well hidden.
At this point it’s just a witch hunt and a name to demonize other members who commit wrongthink.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: azzbo]
#26726268 - 06/07/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted]
#26726278 - 06/07/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree as a mental health professional about psychiatry being bullshit in the sense that it is more of a pseudo-medical field and not rooted in the biology entirely. There is always the problem of the soul and the psyche and consciousness and all that. But the mind can create illnesses in other body systems as well, psychosomatic symptoms so neither is any other field of medicine completely reducible to physical properties and biology. I don't know what is meant by witchcraft. Like summoning demons or healing magically ?
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: lowbrow]
#26726282 - 06/07/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you think you should be allowed to say anything freely here without judgement?
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26726284 - 06/07/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said:psychiatry is bullshit too,
It’s not science, but I would hardly call it bullshit.
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shifting the goalpost doesnt work.
What goal post shift?
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If you are having a heart attack i can save your life much more effectively than a hoodoo practitioner. If you are having one and you would prefer not to die it is in your best interests to accept that fact, but i certainly wont try and force you to. That is all
God damn you like to toot your own horn.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: lowbrow]
#26726288 - 06/07/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: If there are any more actual national socialists on the shroomery, they are well hidden.
At this point it’s just a witch hunt and a name to demonize other members .
Sorry this didnt turn out to be the safe space you appear to have been hoping for
I dont demonize members, i demonize their idiotic prejudices. If you dont have any then there is nothing for me to argue with you about. The people i have put on ignore have a clear history of repeatedly espousing idiotic prejudices. I dont care to see them.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted]
#26726296 - 06/07/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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So what if someone is a racist or national socialist? Doesn't make him a bad person.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ilovetrump] 3
#26726297 - 06/07/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes it does.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ilovetrump]
#26726299 - 06/07/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: SARAtonin]
#26726300 - 06/07/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think its XUL
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: lowbrow]
#26726301 - 06/07/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said:psychiatry is bullshit too,
It’s not science, but I would hardly call it bullshit.
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shifting the goalpost doesnt work.
What goal post shift?
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If you are having a heart attack i can save your life much more effectively than a hoodoo practitioner. If you are having one and you would prefer not to die it is in your best interests to accept that fact, but i certainly wont try and force you to. That is all
God damn you like to toot your own horn.
By it is bullshit what i meant is that it isnt science, just like witchcraft. Reliability is a measuremeny of how likely two different clinicians are to arrive at the same diagnosis given the same patient. In cardiology, reliability is extremely high because it is based on objective measures like ekg and troponin levels. In psychiatry reliability is very low. One patient can go to four different psychiatrists and walk away with 4 different diagnoses.
Goal post shifting is when i say doctors are better at saving lives than witches and you say something about the legitimacy of psychiatry. Totally unrelated goal post shift. The analogy is that you beleive you scored a goal but really all you did was move the goal post to wherever you want to try and make it easier to do so. It is a common tactic but it doesnt work on me.
Yes i toot my own horn, it feels good to save lives rather than just engage in a bunch of self absorbed psuedointellectual bsing which is what i did with my philosophy degree (but hey at least i can spot a goalpost shift when i see one now). Wish you could have the same experience, it is very rewarding. And yes it does reinforce the intuition that some ways of behaving are more effective than others
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ilovetrump]
#26726302 - 06/07/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26726316 - 06/07/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: Sorry this didnt turn out to be the safe space you appear to have been hoping for
Have you ever heard of self-awareness sir?
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I dont demonize members, i demonize their idiotic prejudices.
Id say calling people nazis in a passive aggressive manner says the exact opposite.
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If you dont have any then there is nothing for me to argue with you about.
guess not.
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The people i have put on ignore have a clear history of repeatedly espousing idiotic prejudices. I dont care to see them.
So you call them nazis in a thread title passive-aggresively? K.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: lowbrow]
#26726323 - 06/07/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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He did say "have a clear history of repeatedly espousing idiotic prejudices. "
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted]
#26726330 - 06/07/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay, blatant goal post shift on my part.
What is your position in the scientific field of medicine?
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] 3
#26726362 - 06/07/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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azzbo said: Terrible thread, no point to engage with Op since hes already made up his mind.
Dishing out bad ratings and calling everyone a racist, maybe we should dose you with MDMA
Also witches are real
suck it!!
welcome to my ignore list
Yes, i have made up my mind that racism and nazism are bad
Yeah and seems you made up your mind about most the members here too, go ahead and call everyone a racist again
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