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Offlinemoleculartech
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ID please
    #26726272 - 06/07/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Habitat:
Southeast CT
Growing in small patches in lawn

Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.

Stem:
~5cm thin, delicate, whitish brown

Cap:
1-2.5cm lined and conical, color varies, mostly dark brown to tan, some with a light colored rim

Spore print color:
In progress, looking like dark brown/black... hard to say until more comes out.

Bruising:
None seen

I think these are Panaeolina foenisecii. "Hay maker's mushroom"

I am a novice hobbyist mycologist and thought they might have been P. subb due to the ring around the caps.





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Re: ID please [Re: moleculartech]
    #26726364 - 06/07/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You can print them if you want, but they’re probably foes.


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Re: ID please [Re: lowbrow]
    #26726373 - 06/07/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
You can print them if you want, but they’re probably foes.




Yep, Panaeolus foenisecii. Those prints will be dark brown for sure.


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Re: ID please [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26726490 - 06/07/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
You can print them if you want, but they’re probably foes.




Yep, Panaeolus foenisecii. Those prints will be dark brown for sure.




Thanks to both of you for verifying. Prints are indeed dark brown. I'm reading about them online and finding mixed reports about activity. Some say they have a wonderful calming effect around 3-4g, others say they cause gastric upset. I have no intention of eating anything with a brown spore print but am just curious if anyone has tried these.


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Re: ID please [Re: moleculartech]
    #26726584 - 06/07/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Don't believe it,  I'm willing to bet that anyone saying anything about getting high from them had a mixed collection or possibly a psychosomatic response.


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Re: ID please [Re: Doc9151]
    #26726595 - 06/07/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Don't believe it,  I'm willing to bet that anyone saying anything about getting high from them had a mixed collection or possibly a psychosomatic response.




Gotcha. I can't seem to find anything definitive on the subject. There are sketchy reports of children eating them and falling ill/ hallucinating, etc. Everything is anecdotal and fairly dated. I saw some studies that said they contain psilocybin and others that say they do not. Perhaps they sporadically produce it when conditions are right?


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Re: ID please [Re: moleculartech]
    #26727068 - 06/07/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The cases where P. foenisecii has been reported as psychoactive have likely been due to misidentification, since
there are several active species of Panaeolus that might resemble them unless you get a proper identification.

It is also important to note that while most known species of Panaeolus are fairly common many places in the world, it is
still a genus that is, sadly enough, not researched a lot, with the exception of a few mycologists. I would think there is a lot of
work to be done, and probably quite a few interesting discoveries to be made.


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