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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26725332 - 06/07/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

A hug? All I wanted was for him to explain how I have gone astray. Much less energy to do that. Instead I guess I'll never see  his point of view. I'm sure his views are as flawless and altruistic as he keeps trying to convince himself they are.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Shiithead]
    #26725348 - 06/07/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Point taken man. I understand. I just really wanted that hug. He just gave me my first 0 shroom rating and I'm not gonna lie it hurts my feelings.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
    #26725351 - 06/07/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:hugitout: check your rating.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Shiithead] * 3
    #26725353 - 06/07/20 12:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
see how they come out of the woodwork

literal and figurative shitheads alike



You started a passive aggressive thread that’s literally calling everyone who has a different opinion than you a nazi.
Quote:

zZZz said:
u tryna bait bro?...




He sure is.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26725360 - 06/07/20 12:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

morrowasted said:
see how they come out of the woodwork

literal and figurative shitheads alike




See example below for a rare glimpse at one of these majestic - yet confused - creatures in its natural habitat.

:keyboardwarrior:


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] * 6
    #26725364 - 06/07/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you ask me, psychedelics tend to make people more of what they already are, to deepen preexisting belief and give confidence to preexisting ideas. I've more often seen people come away believing more strongly what they already believed than to have their beliefs changed. When beliefs do change under the influence, I think it tends to be more like the person becoming more of who they are, and casting off outside influence, rather than being more open to outside influence and less of who they are. I've seen so many people become increasingly extreme and increasingly confident after psychedelics, much more so than I've seen people become less extreme and less confident.

For example, I'm sure many of you have had revelations about what you should be doing with your life under psychedelics. That may lead to career changes, or choosing a direction in life. But the revelation itself is often more like revealing what you truly, deeply want or need, a casting off of outside influence and a reversion to who you truly were all along. It isn't like an outside influence changing you, just the opposite, it's more like a reversion to who you truly were all along. An enhancement of preexisting personality traits, desires, needs, wants, beliefs, etc.

So I think that people with preexisting liberal belief are probably made more confident in those beliefs, and people with preexisting conservative beliefs are also made more confident in them. And so people with racist beliefs I think would naturally be likely to double down on and come away with increasing confidence in those beliefs rather than rejecting them.

Of course, the effects of psychedelics are so random and unpredictable and uncontrollable that anything is possible, but I don't think that psychedelics naturally lead someone towards or away from any given political position or ideology.

It might be possible to make someone less racist by trying to alter their minds in some way while they're under the influence, but that's just a function of the ability to alter someone's mind while they're under the influence of psychedelics more broadly.

Also, small forums are easier for people who have been banned elsewhere to access. If you can't spread your ideas on reddit and facebook, that naturally forces you to smaller communities which may be less willing or less able to ban members. Along with that, I think the role of state actors is also a factor. Small forums are probably an ideal setting for state actors to try to stir up racial tensions undetected and without serious risk.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26725367 - 06/07/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
tantrika thats a perfect gif




We discussed it a lot in Tantric Buddhism studies, my professor was a big sci-fi fan :lol:
it was used to "explain" enlightenment and the seemingly non-enlightened actions of some masters
Marpa Lotsāwa was known for drunkeness and fighting since his childhood
but also for continuing to drink heavily and beat some of his disciples and potentially wife and children
after becoming a recognized enlightened master and single-handedly carrying a teaching lineage from India to Tibet

like psychedelics, enlightenment does not change conventional personality


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Tantrika]
    #26725369 - 06/07/20 01:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Katsu!


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: nooneman]
    #26725401 - 06/07/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

nooneman said:
It might be possible to make someone less racist by trying to alter their minds in some way while they're under the influence, but that's just a function of the ability to alter someone's mind while they're under the influence of psychedelics more broadly.




Think this is both a fair and unfair way to describe it
if we recognize that psychedelics reinforce beliefs, then it is not per se altering an individual's mind
it is moreso that the individual is more open and receptive to new information and experiences
and a matter of whether or not that enhanced openness can help foster understanding where it was not getting through otherwise

am really fond of the figure Daryl Davis


he sought first to learn why people like the KKK could hate him without knowing him
then he sought to befriend them and change their perceptions through first hand experience
to my knowledge, he does not employ MDMA or psychedelics in his work
but find myself thinking that he could make those connections more quickly with someone who does not come to the table on the defensive


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26725408 - 06/07/20 01:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Psychedelics dont show you "The Truth"

Perhaps they show you what your truth is

For me, they force me to accept the absolute subjectivity in everything I perceive/think. In that regards they actually strengthen my nihilistic convictions

So yes, basically what Nooneman states. Psychedelics can def strengthen preexisting convictions


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #26725439 - 06/07/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They reflect one’s own psyche, like dreams do, only for a trip you are awake for it. 
They don’t necessarily have anything to do with truth, that all is up to the individual user. 
Same reason why two people can have the same belief.  Both trip, but one may become delusional - thinking what they have seen in Mind is the only singular expression of truth.  Becoming less tolerant of those with another expression of the same thing.

Meanwhile, the other person may recognize the intellect as a faculty of Mind, one that is no small part responsible for fabricating and maintaining their own beliefs  etc etc

And in recognizing this phenomena as a universal  characteristic of the human Mind, something that unifies us all, as a shared phenomena.
And so becomes more tolerant to all people’s expression & comprehension of truth and more accepting or understanding  of others.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26725481 - 06/07/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This whole ´racist hunt´ is getting eerily close to the witch hunt of the 1600`s. Would you float?


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: tomnl]
    #26725486 - 06/07/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tomnl said:
This whole ´racist hunt´ is getting eerily close to the witch hunt of the 1600`s. Would you float?




:rofl:
"eerily close"
:lol:


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: tomnl]
    #26725490 - 06/07/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone is racist. If you claim you are not, you don't understand psychology or you are suspect of something far more serious than ignorance.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #26725507 - 06/07/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Right wing does not mean nazi. Many people use shrooms to connect with ancient pagan gods. There's nothing wrong with nationalism.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Shiithead]
    #26725508 - 06/07/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

As a virulent racist and staunch supporter of Hitler, I can confirm that mushrooms do not cure racism. They just make you gay.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Avvruk] * 2
    #26725510 - 06/07/20 02:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Right wing does not mean nazi. Many people use shrooms to connect with ancient pagan gods. There's nothing wrong with nationalism.



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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #26725514 - 06/07/20 02:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Explain?


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Avvruk]
    #26725516 - 06/07/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure somebody will


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #26725517 - 06/07/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ONE OZ SLUG said:
:braindamage: i wuv all people


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