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OfflineMrBlueYoMind
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OP is a racist shithead [Re: psi] * 3
    #26736327 - 06/11/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This is the most ironic thread ever.

Morrow accused others of being nazi despite their use of shrooms, and has been shown to be a white supremacist himself. 

So far he's called non-white methods of healing bullshit, and acknowledged when western medical institutions get ahold of (see:culturally appropriate) non-white medicine it turns it into "real medicine."  He also bragged about his schooling in "philosophy," which is literally him saying he is educated in how white people think. 

Currently, white Dr's are looking into the benefits of psilocybin to treat depression.  They are literally in the process of turning tribal medicine into a new drug, or as morrow would put it "real medicine" and it's just fucking shrooms.  I wonder how much they're going to charge for quite possibly the cheapest drug in the world? 

When confronted with his white supremacist thought processes, he refused to even read why he might be considered a white supremacist then tucked tail and ran after dusting off and parading around his minority-work trophies.  "I know I'm not a racist because I have black clients and there's black Drs enforcing white models of thought and medicine that I believe to be superior, but am willing to take things that are shown to be effective and present them as my own once it becomes REAL" this guy has a total lack of self awareness. 

Calling people contrarian and edgelord isn't a valid response either, and you've used it multiple times.  I certainly hope you didn't pay for that education in philosophy.

"I'll only debate this position with the people in the video, even though I know its close to impossible/extremely unlikely for them to come to the Shroomery to debate me."  WEAKSAUCE


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Re: OP is a racist shithead [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #26736592 - 06/11/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I'm thinking he did get his education in Texas, and we all know they skew the books to fit the Texas narrative.:shrug:

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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: morrowasted]
    #26756782 - 06/19/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

so, real question,
we can clearly identify an issue of not only a recognized presence of these influences in our community
but also potential issues of recruitment that radicalizes decent Shroomerites

how do we make the community more welcoming to the sorts of minorities the shitheads hate
in order to make the community less welcoming to those who would drive people off?


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26756820 - 06/19/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah come back morrow, I was just taking a jab at Texas because I'm from there.:heart:


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Tantrika] * 4
    #26756991 - 06/19/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Acceptance. You can't change the experience, you can't change the community. Best thing you can do is ignore what you can't politely disagree with. The appeal of such a community is that people have open minds, that doesn't mean they come to the same conclusions as you. Doesn't it make more sense to change minds and be an influence than to diminish the community? People have value even if you don't agree with what value they have. Everyone agreeing with eachother and saying "i L0v3 Uuu!" isn't constructive or interesting.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26757029 - 06/19/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26757030 - 06/19/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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larry.fisherman said:
Acceptance.




Accepting racism sounds like a horrible idea that diminishes more people than it benefits, sorry

Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
You can't change the experience, you can't change the community...Doesn't it make more sense to change minds and be an influence than to diminish the community?




This seems inconsistant -- either the community cannot be changed (do not agree)
or it can be changed and makes sense to do things that do not diminish the community (agree)

this is why the goal is to make the community more welcoming to more people
and if the worst who are hanging on decide to leave because their racism is not accepted
the community benefits further
:cookiemonster:

am not arguing that if we just up and ban the offenders new people will quickly come in -- we need to get new quality posters who pressure out the trash

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larry.fisherman said:
Everyone agreeing with eachother and saying "i L0v3 Uuu!" isn't constructive or interesting.




No one is asking for that,
but if the choice actually were between this
or hateful people spewing non-constructive rehashed racist rhetoric that has been parroted over and over without ever going anywhere
would definitely take this


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757063 - 06/19/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You see things in black and white a lot huh? So what you want is hate campaigns to make the community more loving and vibrant. Please tell me more of my inconsistency.


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26757074 - 06/19/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
You see things in black and white a lot huh?




Larry: you have to accept racism because the alternative is a boring place where people say "i L0v3 Uuu!"
Me: no, we need a middle ground that is not leaning so heavily in to racism so that we can have a larger and more diverse community
Larry: omg you see things in black and white

:stonedjerk:

Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
So what you want is hate campaigns to make the community more loving and vibrant.




No, this is apparently how you perceive me saying we should have more racial diversity and shared ideas
and that if that scares off the racists who want to control what everyone thinks and limit diversity
so be it


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757095 - 06/19/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Anybody that disagrees with me = racist.  Must have zero tolerance for racism (people that disagree with me). Now the community is perfect for me. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Lucy in the Sky with Nazis (Or why this forum is filled with racist shitheads even though it's about shrooms) [Re: qman] * 1
    #26757103 - 06/19/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Anybody that disagrees with me = racist.




yeah you do push a narrative of "anti-white racism" a lot

Quote:

qman said:
Must have zero tolerance for racism (people that disagree with me).




You're good at that too, claiming pro-black issues are anti-white

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qman said:
Now the community is perfect for me. :cookiemonster:




Glad you feel that way, hope that we can improve it for others tho

:cookiemonster:


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The Point [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757160 - 06/19/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It's in the ol' Bible.

Wine can be a holy place.

But wine is not for everyone. Wine can't be taken just any time. And wine is not God. -__-


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Re: The Point [Re: Totodile386]
    #26757176 - 06/19/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Totodile386 said:
It's in the ol' Bible.

Wine can be a holy place.

But wine is not for everyone. Wine can't be taken just any time. And wine is not God. -__-




This has been a division within community thinking going back to at least Leary and Ram Dass

but it also shows up in traditional communities in the form of very controlled ceremonial intake with an experienced guide
the Elusinian Mysteries were also strictly controlled and limited as to who could take the mixture when

personally opt for solo tripping, so am everything that is bad and individualistic about consumption
but perhaps the 'reason' for cultural controls was indeed an attempt to mitigate these substances being available to people who were not also recognized by cultural standards as being ready to partake

would potentially be willing to argue that a racist who takes psychoactive substances and becomes more cemented in their racism
has effectively done damage to their mind -- not brain


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Re: The Point [Re: Totodile386]
    #26757181 - 06/19/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

A lot of today’s recent surge in the race movements remind me of those addicts who will tell other addicts to get clean and exactly how to do it and they know everything about how to solve the problems of the world yet while they  themselves are a mess and are still hooked on dope.  Work out your salvation and get your own house in order. 


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Re: The Point [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26757190 - 06/19/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
Work out your salvation and get your own house in order.




Shoot for the moon, if you miss may you go peacefully in to the Void


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Re: The Point [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757196 - 06/19/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Re read my edit.  No need to shoot for the moon, ur likely to hurt a lot of people on the way or add to the confusion and chaos or complicate things further.

Just fix oneself as best one can ,and understand human nature including ones own nature as the same as others, and know ones own ignorance. 

TLDR - know thyself, and clean up ur own side of the street before taking on your neighbors.  There’s a good reason for this order of operation.


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Re: The Point [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26757209 - 06/19/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
No need to shoot for the moon, ur likely to hurt a lot of people on the way or add to the confusion and chaos or complicate things further.




Shoot for the moon = work out your own salvation

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
Just fix oneself as best one can ,and understand human nature including ones own nature as the same as others, and know ones own ignorance.




Yeah this is why my method is using love to drive out prejudices
worked for me, makes sense for it to work for others
but failing that, prepared to go peacefully in to the Void


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Re: The Point [Re: Tantrika]
    #26757222 - 06/19/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Oooh

:Awemazing:


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Re: The Point [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26757293 - 06/19/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

The Blind Ass said:
Oooh

:Awemazing:




like,
if we recognize the most practical way for us to counter racism
is to expose racists to experiences that normalize diversity of opinion
then how do we get more people from more backgrounds joining up to share their psychedelic messages
how do we broaden the scope of discussion and topics with more perspectives
instead of so much devolving into the same old tired messaging rehashed by the same handful of people driving posters away

personally can just be as me as possible, and be my little atypical point of reference and input
nobody special, hate having attention on me, but recognize a lot of topics on the forum would not have a trans perspective included without me


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