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Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???)
    #26715625 - 06/03/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

(apologies in advance, this is my first post)
I am certain these are psilocybe genus but I was wondering if they could possibly be either P. Fimetaria or P. Semilanceata (Lib Caps).

I found these badboys growing in a paddock (Vic, Australia) that has horses and goats inhabiting it. The were mostly growing around goat feces and occasionally on the dung itself.
The caps are dark brown when wet drying out to a olive-brown and it is also slightly sticky/tacky with distinct nipples.
The stipe is white quite malleable (not as brittle compared to woodlovers) and turns slightly tan when damaged but also has a faint bluing towards the bottom.
Spores are a very dark purpley-brown.
If anyone could identify what species these are I would love to be enlightened.

Here's some pics :laugh: 








Thanks :smile:


Edited by Stone.Flu (06/03/20 01:47 AM)


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Stone.Flu]
    #26715630 - 06/03/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This thread was moved from Getting Started.

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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #26715647 - 06/03/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks so much for the heads up. I believe pics should be working now.


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: fahtster]
    #26715663 - 06/03/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like Protostropharia luteonitens.

Edit: Here’s a description.
http://www.studiesinfungi.org/pdf/SIF_2_1_9.pdf


Edited by HSapiensAmericanus (06/03/20 02:17 AM)


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: HSapiensAmericanus]
    #26715666 - 06/03/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Neither. I believe you have psilocybe alutacea, though I don't see any bluing. Do you have a photo of that?


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26715685 - 06/03/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's hard to capture the bluing on my phone since it is a bit subtle. But I will see what I can do :smile:


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Stone.Flu]
    #26715694 - 06/03/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here's the best I could do. Hope it helps.


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Stone.Flu]
    #26715943 - 06/03/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Whatever they are they
Look tasty.🏆


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The mushrooms are great.
The mushrooms are fine.
Give me them with lashings of wine.


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Stone.Flu]
    #26715998 - 06/03/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It looks like very faint bruising but I can't be 100% sure. I'd just dry them and try them. They're safe to eat.
For future requests, in situ photos and detailed photos of the mushrooms in natural light is preferable. Uprooting the mushroom is also a good idea.
Let's know if you try them! Welcome to the Shroomery!


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26716047 - 06/03/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Psilosadhu said:
Neither. I believe you have psilocybe alutacea, though I don't see any bluing. Do you have a photo of that?




I thought that as well at first but ruled it out because I didn’t see any blue bruising. And then I went and compared to MO observations and it didn’t seem to be a perfect fit. Protostropharia luteonitens is strikingly similar even in their micro features. They share same dark purple/brown spore print and and similar spore shape to P. alutacea. The stems in the pics just don’t seem to match alutacea.


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: HSapiensAmericanus]
    #26716074 - 06/03/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The stems is actually what matches p.alutacea better than protostropharia, i.e. being fibrous and lacking an annulus. Protostropharia luteonitens doesn't have fibrous stem and, even if the annulus is evanescent, you'd expect to see at least a few in a heap. Another clue is the colour and the striation on the cap. P.luteonitens is a good suggestion, but I'm pretty certain it isn't. Though, I'm not sure it's alutacea either :laugh:


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26718231 - 06/04/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Here's how they look dried:


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: Stone.Flu]
    #26721929 - 06/05/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I also think it's Psilocybe alutacea. Nice find! :super:


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Re: Shroom ID help: (Liberty caps or Ps. fimetaria???) (moved) [Re: knarkkorven]
    #26723120 - 06/06/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks everyone for the responses :laugh:
I've been doing research on P.Alutacea, but I haven't found a single bit of information on dosage. I read that it's microscopic features and other characteristics are similar to P.Semilanceata, would that be a good referance to go off of regarding dose?


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