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Put to fruiting! Any advice?
    #26719763 - 06/04/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



Day 6 of colonizing these two 14qt Minis.  I know I shouldn’t be opening it but I wanted to snap a quick photo.  Brand new to this hobby so any insight is very much appreciated. I have researched a ton so I am pretty sure everything is looking right but it definitely helps to hear from seasoned cultivators to make sure I am doing everything correctly. Hope everyone has an awesome day!!!

Golden Teacher MS on WBS spawn. 1:2 ratio to hpoo, coir, verm, gypsum 35/35/25/5.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26719808 - 06/04/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:

Ah yes, very nice.

1-2 more days and it's time to give it some FAE.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26719868 - 06/04/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you!  These are among my first grows (I have a shoebox and some cakes going now too). I didn’t do any modifications to these tubs. I’m going to be casing with RR’s suggested casing formula. Do you think I could just “flip the lid” and fan/mist when I begin to see primordia through the casing?


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26719911 - 06/04/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, or even before primordia, as FAE is a pinning trigger.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Tmethyl] * 1
    #26719946 - 06/04/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And for more peace of mind its fine to open the tub while its colonizing.

I hope you have many mushrooms :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26719973 - 06/04/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome!  I’m exited!!!  I really appreciate the advice.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26719980 - 06/04/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks Roger!  Me too. Y’all probably remember what your first grows were like. This newfound hobby (which I am in love with) has taught me more patience than any I can remember. I have really tried to do everything by the book through studying TC teks and whatnot. I still feel like I’m walking on eggshells and am afraid of something going south but so far so good!  I really appreciate y’all!!!


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26719996 - 06/04/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yes I remember.

For a first grow you're doing well, a vast majority fail the first few attempts.
Here's to following directions! :awesomenod:


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26720016 - 06/04/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I remember fo sho. I grew some cakes in '05 in my room. I kept it like 80+f because that was the word back then. I suffered alongside my jars. It was B+ and Equador. I got some huuge mushrooms off a contaminated cake and a decent amount besides from 10-11 total that made it. I had some great trips with my friends from all that.

This is definitely a cool hobby. It's real neat and different than a lot of stuff and rewarding in the strangest of ways - you eat what you grow and experience the next level or something.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26720024 - 06/04/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks again Tmethyl!  My shoebox isn’t going the greatest. At least I don’t think so. I am having a little trouble getting some solid advice on the thread I created for it. I don’t want to be a nuisance and bump the thread as I know there are many others who need assistance. Do you think that it would be ok if I PM’d you a pic with a description and my concern for it?  Or would it be better if I provided a link to the thread?  If not, that’s ok and I really am so thankful for the advice thus far!!


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26720049 - 06/04/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That’s funny 😆. I bet you’re pretty glad that the accepted practice now allows you to be comfortable (climate wise) with your mushies. I started on this journey about 6 weeks ago via putting cakes and MS from “The Works” in Eight 1/2 pint jars. I have since inoculated WBS and Popcorn with MS (B+ and GT) and fully colonized those. I saved two jars of my WBS and did a G2G on some oats and Rye Berries. They are about 2/3 colonized. I have 6 agar dishes and a LC growing well. I never really realized just how vast mycology can be but as for now I’m loving it!!!


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26720438 - 06/04/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wow that looks spectacular !  Please post follow up pictures


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: Bsfixit]
    #26721043 - 06/05/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you!  I’m ready to see what they will do!  I will def post some update pics in a few days


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26721099 - 06/05/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How did you spawn? A few people may say skip the casing if you added a top layer and just let it play out. It looks great and like you might have some pins in the next day or two as long as it stays hydrated. If you used coir, spawned, and then top layered, you can just do without the casing. I prefer to just let the tubs do their thing without true casings and use a top layer of coir as climate control. Keep the heat right and with properly timed mists casings for cubes isn’t completely necessary.

That said, great fucking job on that tub and do whatever you want, it’ll probably give you great fruits either way as long as you keep the same conditions up.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26721135 - 06/05/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for that!  Much appreciated!  I did add a thin top layer of sub at spawn. Just enough so that no grains were visible. I put a liner in one of the tubs and left it out of the other. So far it looks like liner is a little denser on top. Would I just leave the lid flipped or cocked off to the side a little while fruiting providing more GE and FAE, mist and fan a couple times daily or as needed?  One other question I have is that my tub without a liner isn’t showing full colonization along the sides yet (still see some layers). I’m assuming the liner tub is the same as they were spawned on the same day. The only variable between the two is the liner, other than that everything is identical.  Do I need to wait until the side is all MYC before I give them FAE?  Thanks again for the compliment and the advice!!


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26721291 - 06/05/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If the tub lid doesn’t have a gasket you’d probably be fine just leaving it regular unlatched. If it does then try to take it off or use a knife to make small holes, or flip the lid. I prefer using holes to have consistent fae from multiple points on the tub, but people have a lot of success with flipped lids.

Liners don’t do anything besides clean up mess and make a small microclimate. Mix better the next tub and the problem shoul cease but it’s not even really a problem.

The fact that you used a top layer means you don’t really need to case but definitely can if you want, it’s just a slightly outdated practice for normal cubes. I’d really just leave it, and continue to give it water via mist maybe once a day to simulate a light rain and you’ll have fruits. The tub looks like it’s about to pin so you’ve been doing something right, no need to case and change airflow at this point, especially on your first few runs. The myc poking through should like blades of grass with dew on them. Make it like that once a day and let it evaporate and it’ll pin.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26722334 - 06/05/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, thanks so much for all the suggestions!  I went ahead and put them in fruiting conditions. I did as you said and chose not to case them. The lids I had for the tubs were black. I had two 1/4” holes (one on each end) covered with micropore tape for colonizing.  I am using a 4’ 6500K  light cycled 12/12 hanging about 5  foot above the tubs. I had a clear lid from a larger tub that fit perfectly over both of them. Flipped upside down it leaves a very small space between the lid and the rim of the tub 1/8” or so along each end of the tubs. Ive had the lid on there for a few hours and it is collecting small condensation on it. Sorry I’m not there currently so I cannot provide pictures.  The room is climate controlled by central AC and I’m keeping it at 75F.  I will be doing as you said jbgtaa and misting once daily. Any need to fan?  Also does it sound like my setup will be sufficient?  Any other suggestions? 


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26722364 - 06/05/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



Here is a picture of the setup I took before I left the house. If you zoom in on it you can see the gap between the lid and rim of the tub that I spoke of. Also a picture of one of the tubs I took last night. The darker area in the substrate has since filled in with myc growth and the rest of it has thickened up a little. I read 10 days before fruiting so I was a little hesitant to fruit them. Do you think they will be ok?


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: beforshroomin]
    #26722605 - 06/05/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good. Can’t tell if it’s got water beads on the surface but make sure it’s not too dry.

Most people are fruiting the second the tub is made, it speeds things up.


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Re: Day 6 Tubs Colonizing. LOOKING OK?!? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26722634 - 06/05/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks AKA!  Yeah, I was told to mist until the myc has little droplets like dew. Let it evap, rinse and repeat. Any need to fan?


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