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PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log
    #26721137 - 06/05/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

PESH + GT grow
Should I put this in my journal as Hawaiian Teacher, or Golden Hawaiian? Or just leave it as PESH + GT?

Just recently completed my first grow where I did a boot box of GT and another of PESH  and had some leftover fully colonized WBS jars of PESH and GT.
2.5 quarts PESH and 2 quarts GT. These were not myco quarts, closer to full quarts.

On 05/20:
790g coir was prepped using Bod’s cooler tek and I mixed both the PESH spawn and GT spawn all in the same tub. I had issues with substrate shrinkage in my boot boxes on my first grow, so this time I prepped the coir a little more wet to try to prevent this from happening again.

I used Bod’s unbodified tek with boot boxes for my first grow.
So for this second one I decided to try out Pasty’s easy dialed Monotubs. I used a 64 quart sterilite tub with an opaque white lid.

Room temperature is being kept this high to accommodate the pans I have coming up.






05/20 - Room temp: 78F
Tub is made. Substrate depth: 2.75inches. Ambient light coming from window, as well as a small lamp sitting next to the tub. The lighting is not overhead as the tub  has an opaque lid, and I don’t have the means to install overhead lighting anyways. I’ll outfit my tub lid to have some strip lights attached to the inside of it for the PEs I have coming up next.









05/23 - Room temp: 78F
Surface is getting there.








05/28 - Room temp: 79F
It took my tub of GTs from my first grow 8 days before I saw pins. Still no sign of pins 8 days in on this tub. Any minute now...









05/31 - Room temp: 80F
Finally seeing a few pins.











06/04 - room temp: 79F
Pin set is very slowly starting to fill out.
Holy fucking shit. The side pins. The middle of the substrate is filling out really nicely, and the very edges/sides are filling out even more, leaving a mycelium moat around the middle of the substrate.
I prepped this coir on the wet side to try to prevent the substrate from shrinking, and this tub has been great about keeping the surface moist and glistening with mist-size droplets. I’ve only *lightly* misted twice up to this point (12 days since spawning).
But god damn. The side pins here are way worse than my boot boxes.

The substrate has slightly shrunk at this point, but barely. The side pins started forming before the substrate was showing any shrinkage, though.

I didn’t put a liner in this tub, so when it comes time to harvest I’m not sure what I’m going to do about harvesting the side pins. With my unbodified tub I was able to float the substrate to the top of the tub to harvest, can’t do that with these tubs. And without a liner there’s no way I’ll be able to pick up the substrate out of the tub without it breaking...right?

Luckily, I don’t really give a fuck about getting more flushes out of this. My first grow gave me more cubes than I’ll ever eat in my lifetime as I don’t really care to eat cubes. This was just an experiment to see what would happen mixing spawn from two varieties in one tub.

At this point I can’t see any noticeable differences in the fruits. Perhaps when they grow up, but honestly when I grew them both in separate tubs the difference in physical appearance was negligible. The PESHs were a little fatter and the caps were a little darker until the veils broke. After the veils broke they both looked pretty much the same.









06/05 - room temp: 81F
I am confident I will pull more weight from these side pins than I will from the surface. I’ve never seen anything like this.







06/06/20 - Room temp: 78F
17 days since spawning
Looks like I’ll have to harvest some of these tonight. Got a few broken veils now and it looks like there’s about a dozen more ready to pop any minute.








06/07/20 - Finished harvesting first flush
Last night I harvested about half of the first flush. This morning I harvested the remaining half.
Total weight was 1,167g fresh, so should be about 4oz once dried. I fuckin shredded some of those side pins trying to harvest them, but overall I did okay with a pair of forceps.

-The first pic is some of the remaining half that was harvested this morning.
-Second pic is the pins that remained after harvest.
—And the last two pics are just a couple of dicks ready to explode on ya. There was a lot of dicks along the sides of the tub, this is just one of many.

Overall most of the fruits appeared to look more like the PESH, and all of the fruits bruised the same color as my PESH from my last grow. When I grew them out separately the GT bruised a sky blue, while the PESH bruises a much darker blue that was more of a midnight blue, especially on fruits from the side of the tub that took more work to harvest.

Wasn’t sure if I’d even bother with the second flush but since the tub still looks decent I think I’m gonna go ahead and let it keep going since I don’t have any spawn ready to fill it with anything else at the moment.


Edited by CosmicGiggle (06/07/20 09:33 AM)


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Re: PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26721199 - 06/05/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome.  Please update us with further pictures.  I am curious to see how two varieties do in the same tub.


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Re: PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log [Re: DigDug]
    #26721336 - 06/05/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

For harvest you can turn the tub on it’s side then kinda shimmy the sub forward until you can get you hand behind it, then pull it so it falls flat partway in and partway out of the tub.


It’s looking good especially for a first run with a mono, dialed in nicely right away.


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Re: PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log [Re: DigDug]
    #26722450 - 06/05/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

A.k.a said:
For harvest you can turn the tub on it’s side then kinda shimmy the sub forward until you can get you hand behind it, then pull it so it falls flat partway in and partway out of the tub.


It’s looking good especially for a first run with a mono, dialed in nicely right away.





That sounds feasible. I will try that with the expectation of it breaking in half, so that if it does I don’t have to worry about letting myself down. Like I said this was just leftover spawn that would’ve gotten tossed otherwise so Even getting one flush is a win for me.

Dunno if I’d say it’s looking good. I’m not beating myself up since it is my first monotub and second ever grow, but the side pin situation leaves plenty of room for improvement. But I thank you for your kind words.  Side pins or not, still plenty of fruit to pick. More than I’ll ever know what to do with.



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DigDug said:
Awesome.  Please update us with further pictures.  I am curious to see how two varieties do in the same tub.





the fruits circled in gold look, to me, like the GTs from my previous grow, while the fruits circled in blue resemble the PESH from my last grow.  I don’t know shit about what’s going on at the microscopic level :shrug: I can only assume that both varieties mycelium are coexisting and producing fruits right alongside each other?


I will try to post pics daily now that they’re off to the races. I got some fruits nearing maturity and still got new pins forming on this first flush so there’ll be plenty to look at in the coming days.


After I’m done with this grow I have some Syzygy, PE, LPEU, and APE on agar that I’ll be putting to grain after my next transfers grow out. I will plan on making some extra spawn jars of those and once I’m finished with growing them separately, I will try mixing up a couple of those varieties because at least if I throw a PE (or relative of) in there with some Syzygy I will be able to tell which fruits are showing up to the party without having to guess who’s who. Not sure if PE’s slow Mycelial growth will play a factor, but I would assume it will.

There’s surprisingly little information on mixing varieties in a single tub. If I ran into this problem of extra grain spawn of multiple varieties on my very first grow, surely many others before me have run into the same problem? Cool with me though. Now that I know it can work I’ll start doing it more often, maybe even exclusively, since I don’t give two fucks about cubes.


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Re: PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26722516 - 06/05/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There’s a thread called “a strain crossing thread” about it.

I had bacterial Clone spawn for gt and Malabar and got some crosses. It was easier to tell though cuz they’re slightly different looking in general and the gt clone was super skinny.

It’s tough with normal cubes trying to tell if it worked.

Sock just did PEu and aa+ that came out really cool.


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Re: PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log [Re: A.k.a]
    #26722598 - 06/05/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is neat.

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: PESH and GT mixed in the same tub Grow Log [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26726057 - 06/07/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Updated the OP. Just finished harvesting the first flush.


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