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Re: Not enough FAE in humidity chamber? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26723619 - 06/06/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You're welcome! Most will tell you the hygrometer is not important at all, and they have good reasons for this. However, as someone very new to this, I want my system to give me as much information as possible, particularly about things like humidity. It may be only a tiny, little part of the information, but its more information, and was a cheap item.


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Re: Not enough FAE in humidity chamber? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26723913 - 06/06/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Wow. Take a couple of days to work on the house and Bam!. Lots to cover.

Yeah LSA knows his shit. I would listen to anything he said. He is a mycologist in my opinion and has graduated from noob status.

What the hell was the question again,?

Oh yeah flip the lid. Hygrometers are fine, just unreliable in general.

The reason alot of people hate on them is that they don't provide a good measurement of surface moisture. So you look and it says 85% so you skip a misting or two and boom your cakes dry out. The concept is that they can become a crutch for new growers and learning to read your cakes or surface moisture in a mono is more important than looking at a gauge.

Honestly the same thing is true for a PC. Most gauges are not reliable either and when you hear a rocking from your weight. Your up to temperature even if you gauge shows 14 PSI.

I'm really curious LSA about the swealtering heat of NYC, cause I'm probably moving to up state NY this fall. Tired of the fucking heat in Texas.


This will be an interesting experience for me moving from a high humidity climate where cubes grow naturally to a colder temperature where other actives grow.

I wonder if Psilocybe cyaneses will grow in up state New York?

Oh and fan all you want op. I still don't like the water tub or HC.


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Re: Not enough FAE in humidity chamber? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26723934 - 06/06/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Sockadin said:
Wow. Take a couple of days to work on the house and Bam!. Lots to cover.

Yeah LSA knows his shit. I would listen to anything he said. He is a mycologist in my opinion and has graduated from noob status.

What the hell was the question again,?

Oh yeah flip the lid. Hygrometers are fine, just unreliable in general.

The reason alot of people hate on them is that they don't provide a good measurement of surface moisture. So you look and it says 85% so you skip a misting or two and boom your cakes dry out. The concept is that they can become a crutch for new growers and learning to read your cakes or surface moisture in a mono is more important than looking at a gauge.

Honestly the same thing is true for a PC. Most gauges are not reliable either and when you hear a rocking from your weight. Your up to temperature even if you gauge shows 14 PSI.

I'm really curious LSA about the swealtering heat of NYC, cause I'm probably moving to up state NY this fall. Tired of the fucking heat in Texas.


This will be an interesting experience for me moving from a high humidity climate where cubes grow naturally to a colder temperature where other actives grow.

I wonder if Psilocybe cyaneses will grow in up state New York?

Oh and fan all you want op. I still don't like the water tub or HC.




I thought Texas is actually a dry climate. You learn something new every day lol.

I decided not to fan because from my understanding, constant FAE is way more important.

Is it possible to have mushrooms that are growing fuzzy feet and at the same time the surface needs misting?

I ask this because as far as I know fuzzy feet = lack of FAE/too high humidity. But, I see fuzzy feet even when I go days without misting and there are no droplets on the cakes so I'm wondering if I should completely stop misting when I see fuzzy feet or still try to keep those tiny droplets on the surface.

Thanks again!


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Re: Not enough FAE in humidity chamber? [Re: Farnaby1984]
    #26723968 - 06/06/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah fuzzy feet can also be genetic. So I wouldn't use that as a reason to reduce misting or fanning.

A properly built SGFC should provide you with the right amount of FAE. not enough testing has been done on the HC creation of Meteah to really be sure.

You can have to much misting and still dry out your substrate. One isn't a replacement for the other. Mists are water droplets but that doesn't replace humidity. It just enhances it.

Most of your humidity will come from the cake it self and a good amount of FAE so the misting is only to replace surface moisture in the substrate. Which with proper FAE creates more humidity through evaporation which is the major pining trigger.

So if your fruits look healthy leave them be with the lid flipped and allow minimal FAE.


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Re: Not enough FAE in humidity chamber? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26724293 - 06/06/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Sockadin said:
Yeah fuzzy feet can also be genetic. So I wouldn't use that as a reason to reduce misting or fanning.

A properly built SGFC should provide you with the right amount of FAE. not enough testing has been done on the HC creation of Meteah to really be sure.

You can have to much misting and still dry out your substrate. One isn't a replacement for the other. Mists are water droplets but that doesn't replace humidity. It just enhances it.

Most of your humidity will come from the cake it self and a good amount of FAE so the misting is only to replace surface moisture in the substrate. Which with proper FAE creates more humidity through evaporation which is the major pining trigger.

So if your fruits look healthy leave them be with the lid flipped and allow minimal FAE.




Thank you for clearing that up! So, the idea is to always have very small droplets on the surface, as well as high humidity in the FC, right?

I think besides the fuzzy feet they look healthy and plenty hydrated (the stipes are brownish which I think is a sign of sufficient water).


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