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After a two yields can I renourish?
#26720412 - 06/04/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was thinking after two yields would I be able to breakdown my cakes again into a new bulk substrate? So I can reuse the same mycelium.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: HighB]
#26720431 - 06/04/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I'm understanding you correctly, you're asking if you could break up cakes into tubs after two successful flushes? I've never done it, but I would imagine that the myc may not be strong enough to recover and colonize the new sub all over again and then push out more fruits after going through 2 flushes. It might, but you'd be better off just leaving them as cakes for a potential 3rd flush.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: HighB]
#26720433 - 06/04/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The problem isn't renourisment, it's the build-up of waste from the digestion process of the mycelium. Even though they don't have stomachs, They do kind of shit in some type of way. I believe this voice substrates dumped outside and to regular natural dirt with microbes and all that, keep producing mushrooms, because there's got to be some type of bacteria that feeds on those toxins
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I see that makes a lot of sense! I really appreciate both of your input!
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Most of your nutrients come from the grains. Just rehydrate after your second flush. Whether its dunking, bottom watering, or a heavy misting. Reusing flushed cakes to spawn bulk sounds like contam city. You can try it though. I'm kinda curious.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: HighB]
#26720603 - 06/05/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It can be done.. I did it as an experiment. I had 2 spent grow bags that I broke apart and put into a tub with organic manure compost from Lowes. They took off within 2 weeks. I was able to get 2 1/2 oz dried from this experiment. Would of definitely gotten a lot more out of it if I had pasteurized the compost. It starting getting little gnats which im certain were already present in the compost as larvae. When I tossed it out I was a little upset to see a 10" mushroom that had grown entirely on the bottom of the tub. I had to toss it because it had started to rot from excess moisture.

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vinnie boombotz said: The problem isn't renourisment, it's the build-up of waste from the digestion process of the mycelium. Even though they don't have stomachs, They do kind of shit in some type of way. I believe this voice substrates dumped outside and to regular natural dirt with microbes and all that, keep producing mushrooms, because there's got to be some type of bacteria that feeds on those toxins
Come to think of it I may be wrong. Fairy circles get larger every year for some reason
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: HighB]
#26738744 - 06/12/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just stage new projects for continuous growth. Don't try to continue the first one for too long. Eventually, each one ends up with diminishing returns, and usually contamination.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26740270 - 06/12/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe I can add some of the older cakes in some pasteurized grains and see what happens (kinda like agar). Just curious though, I enjoy the idea of spending more time with this little cakes before I mix them in my garden.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: HighB]
#26740281 - 06/12/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I did it once. I did it right after first flush my idea being the mycelium was still strong so I mixed it with more sub and it flushed again. I did this with to tubs one got mold. So thats a 50/50 rate of failure. Might as well try.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26740284 - 06/12/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Just stage new projects for continuous growth. Don't try to continue the first one for too long. Eventually, each one ends up with diminishing returns, and usually contamination.
Also this^^
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: HighB]
#26740288 - 06/12/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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HighB said: Maybe I can add some of the older cakes in some pasteurized grains and see what happens (kinda like agar). Just curious though, I enjoy the idea of spending more time with this little cakes before I mix them in my garden.
Grain needs to be sterilized not pasteurized. Personally, I like the idea of spending time of making brand new cakes that will flourish rather than waste time on cakes that are all but useless. But you do you. Grains have enough nutrients in them alone, so the addition of cakes in them wouldn't really add anything more that the myc could use.
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Re: After a two yields can I renourish? [Re: Gan]
#26740304 - 06/12/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Appreciate all the input guys! I’m amazed at how informative and active these forums are! Thank you again!
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