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ft116
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Spawn? (Pics)
#26719476 - 06/04/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What do you do when you Use spawn to grow shrooms?
Do you need a grow chamber Or do the shrooms grow In the bag?
I ask this because I watched a Video and he did some weird Shit. He inoculated the grow bag. Let the mycelium spread. Then cut the top off the grow Bag and place it in a box?!?
I am confused.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719489 - 06/04/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spawning to a bulk substrate is preferred. I've never had luck fruiting in the same bag, those all in 1 kits are bunk.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719516 - 06/04/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ft116 said: What do you do when you Use spawn to grow shrooms?
Spawn is a weird thing to think about when your starting growing. Basically its a kind of grain. I use wild bird seed I got at the store for 15 bucks. Theres many different grains you can use tho. Oats, rye, corn, brown rice, wild bird seed, millet, etc etc. The preparation of the grain is what's important. I use a soak and simmer method on my wild bird seed where I soak in a water/coffee/gypsum mixture, then after 12 hours of soaking in a bucket, I will put in a pot and bring the water up to a simmer. Ill pour it out into a strainer and let the water evaporate off to the right moisture content then ill load it into jars and pressure cook and its ready to be inoculated. Agar is the preferred innoculant tho. Using a syringe to inoculate usually ends not so good with a high contam rate.
Hope this helps.
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Cheers. So the mushrooms can grow off the spawn Then? Or do I need to add something To the spawn? If so, what?
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719533 - 06/04/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Would compost work?
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719537 - 06/04/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gonna wanna spawn the spawn to a bulk substrate. Coco coir and horse poo are the most commonly used. Compost could work but depends on what it has in it.
Dont fruit directly off the grains although you could if you wanted to I guess.
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All I have as substrate is Compost. Well. It’s worth a shot.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719601 - 06/04/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Should I wait till all the spawn Turns white before mixing with The compost?
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719654 - 06/04/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ft116 said: Should I wait till all the spawn Turns white before mixing with The compost?
Yes , wait till it’s all white then wait another week after that. You will have better luck with coco coir in a shoebox. Coir is available at pet store , sometimes Walmart or online I got 3 brinks of coir for 8 bucks off Amazon. Good luck!
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719668 - 06/04/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, you want your spawn all to be white.
I suggest Is to go for the win..! Buy some coir.
The more you read and ask questions will put you closer to being successful.
The search page is a good place to start.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php
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Right. I have found some coir On eBay. 1 litre for 8 quid. Will purchase some next week. Then the spawn should be Ready. Shouldn’t it? Can’t order any coir till next Week. God I hope this works.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719735 - 06/04/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What tek are you following? It sounds like you don't have a basic grasp of any process.
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Not following any tek. I have a bag of rye spawn That I inoculated with golden Teacher spores. But I thought That was it. I have now learnt About the whole process by Watching a show on YouTube.
He goes through every step. I just need the substrate then I am good.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719764 - 06/04/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a plastic tub. Could I use this?
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719780 - 06/04/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ft116 said: Not following any tek. I have a bag of rye spawn That I inoculated with golden Teacher spores. But I thought That was it. I have now learnt About the whole process by Watching a show on YouTube.
He goes through every step. I just need the substrate then I am good.
You should start with agar you won't regret it. Cheap and enables you to grow better with lower contam rates and store cultures that you want to save. Looking back I wasted too much time using multi spore grows with little success.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719810 - 06/04/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The majority of cultivation videos not from this site use outdated methods and just suck overall. If the one you watched told you to shoot spores into grain bags, then it's probably one of those.
You should do some reading around this website to get on track. Start here, get a grasp on which process works best with your supplies, look for ways to improve based on that info, and then you'll be in a better place to progress.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719828 - 06/04/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ft116 said: I have a plastic tub. Could I use this?
Read more. I read for 2 years solid before I made the jump from the basic pftek to bulk. You can keep asking basic questions and getting basic answers or you can ask the same questions to the search engine and get the big picture. Everything has already been asked and answered a million times.
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Don’t worry. I have figured it out. Waiting for the next step And I am going to use a tub With a lid. Yes! I’ve got it.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719835 - 06/04/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bloody hell. I didn’t know I was doing bulk.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719841 - 06/04/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rage on young pioneer.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719904 - 06/04/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ft116 said: Not following any tek. I have a bag of rye spawn That I inoculated with golden Teacher spores. But I thought That was it. I have now learnt About the whole process by Watching a show on YouTube.
You will fail, and you'll keep failing, until you follow an established tek to learn the basics. You haven't learned shit about the whole process on youtube. No one is going to take you seriously and help you unless you show some initiative by doing basic research before asking questions. You can't just fumble your way through this, and you can't expect the community to spoon feed you at every step. And why do your posts look like poems? Just write dude, you don't have to hit Enter after every few words.
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Sorry if I’ve done something wrong fellow.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719950 - 06/04/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, I really like the brief and poetic nature of your posts, easy on the eyes. (I'm talking to you LSA Woodrose)
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Hbwr man. I am typing on Brugmansia. It’s just the way I type.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26719992 - 06/04/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don't know the drug/planet brugmansia, but I approve. Carry on.
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ft116
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Cheers.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26720050 - 06/04/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does this tub look ok?
Going to sterilise it before I add the spawn and substrate.
When is the best time to Mix the spawn in with the Substrate?
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26720060 - 06/04/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is what my spawn looks Like.

Good or bad?
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26720104 - 06/04/20 07:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That is very bacterial. Hence the problem with going MS to grain without using agar. Throw that in the trash and start fresh. Buy some LME agar powder premixed if you have to.
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I have already chucked one Away. Not another! I might stick to my plants. Or buy a grow-kit if they ever Become legal again. Too much Messing about with this growing Stuff. Is there any chance that it Might still be good? Come on man, that can’t be it.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26720130 - 06/04/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Might just wait till mushroom Season now. This year I am going to pick Loads.
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Re: Spawn? [Re: ft116]
#26720144 - 06/04/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would like to share a few pointers with you.
Learn to use a sab. (Still air box) to eliminate contaminate In your grow. That Is so Important.
Get yourself a book that you can write In. Enter all recipes that your working on so you can always go back and try to duplicate your success. You'll find yourself using the book all the time. I myself can't remember all the formulas. Thank God I have them entered In the book.
Learn from your mistakes. Remember we all get contaminates. The challenge Is trying to figure out where I have gone wrong and try to improve the next time.
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Right. I hear you man. Advice taken onboard. Guess I will have to try again. No prob. Going to read up a bit more I think.
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