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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #26713624 - 06/02/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This is short-sighted.

Its basically saying people haven't achieved anything until they've achieved it. The act of fighting for something by definition means they dont have it yet.

I mean would you say suffragettes were useless or counterproductive? I'm sure some of them did bad stuff. Some of them got big egos from it. But the movement created an empire. That is the endgame effect. Its undeniable.... now that we are post-suffrage. You think in the middle of the suffrage movement people weren't saying this same BS line?

Its Marie Antoinette as you can get.



We take a knee at a sporting event. "OMG YOU DONT RESPECT AMERICA"
We organize with signs. "Look at these jobless idiots. GET A JOB!"
We block traffic. "IMMATURE!"


What do you want done? A protest that you can't hear? Should we go in the woods and yell at the trees?




Some rioters are fucking shit. Looting is bad. Burning stuff is bad. But the movement must take place. The hurt must be shown. It is visceral. It is reactionary. But its real. People see that man being choked to death and it ENRAGES them. And I say fuck yeah. The police need a fixing in america. I dont like this GUNGHO fucking god complex bullshit we have to put up with.


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #26713735 - 06/02/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I am thinking that that comment was in reply to laughingdog because using different words I agree with you, Oldnameforgotten


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26713746 - 06/02/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I am thinking that that comment was in reply to laughingdog because using different words I agree with you, Oldnameforgotten





Comment was for OP. How could I ever disagree with RGV? <3


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #26713949 - 06/02/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Oldnameforgotten said:
This is short-sighted...

...People see that man being choked to death and it ENRAGES them. And I say fuck yeah. The police need a fixing in america. I dont like this GUNGHO fucking god complex bullshit we have to put up with.




Carrie burns down the High School prom because people laughed at her. There are similarities between these two examples. Defending crimes of passion based on the emotional breaking points is short-sighted imo, all too soon the bully in us will take advantage of it.


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #26713961 - 06/02/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Is every activist a loser? What makes a winner? So many questions about bullshit

Don’t be fooled, this just keeps focus off of civil liberties and on some other stupid shit that don’t mean nothin

No justice no peace. All the other shit is nonsense

Discuss that


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Citizen X]
    #26714737 - 06/02/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder what justice means in this case.  Will less racist cops do the trick?  To an extent.  But if I’m black I would be looking for other causes of depression.


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26714840 - 06/02/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I wonder what justice means in this case.  Will less racist cops do the trick?... 




Is change the rational outcome, or slapped fingers and the release of emotional energy and youthful vigor? This reminds me of smaller scale soccer hooliganism that is an expected recurrence.


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Yellow Pants] * 1
    #26714928 - 06/02/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yellow Pants said:
I wonder what justice means in this case.  Will less racist cops do the trick?  To an extent.  But if I’m black I would be looking for other causes of depression.




Most people aren't aware using an arm or leg on the side of the throat is not just accepted, but taught in that precinct (and probably many others). It's in the manual. It's considered non-lethal.


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Rahz]
    #26715153 - 06/02/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yellow Pants said:
I wonder what justice means in this case.  Will less racist cops do the trick?  To an extent.  But if I’m black I would be looking for other causes of depression.




Most people aren't aware using an arm or leg on the side of the throat is not just accepted, but taught in that precinct (and probably many others). It's in the manual. It's considered non-lethal.




Dam.  Well that doesn’t bode well for justice.  People do jump to conclusions and idk what for sure happened and context but it sounds like the cop probably was a little too “by the book” and didn’t think to adapt to the situation as it unfolded.  Or he’s a racist ass out to kill.  Either way way I hope he gets something.  Imo


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Re: Activism Is A Way for Useless People to Feel Important [Re: Antigov]
    #26715460 - 06/02/20 11:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I can’t say for the whole, but I have found that activism attracts narcissist by the truck loads. “ LOOK AT ME, IM SPECIAL!”

:liottalol:




That kind of honesty can ruffle some feathers  :laugh:

"I'm special" is self-righteous indignation ("I'm morally superior to the bad people")


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