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Fresh new beginner looking to learn more!
#26714872 - 06/02/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I recently have begun to re-join the world of mushrooms after a couple year hiatus and would like to start learning how to find them myself. I had a powerful experience and would enjoy being able to have these more. I reside near North Georgia and have taken a few trips out into the wild to attempt seeing if I can find any "fun ones" with no luck. I have done a fair bit of reading but there is nothing like experience of someone who has been there and done that. I'm looking to join up with a group or even one individual who can take me out into the fields and about and help me expand my knowledge on the subject. Even if you can help me find a single one, that would make my year. I live specifically around the Paulding county area but can make travels at least 1-2 hours in any direction around there (I was just up at Lake Lanier a few days ago where I had my enlightening experience at the beach). Again, I am a complete noob when it comes to this as far as finding/research with only the most basic info floating in my head. If you would be interested in teaching me (and possibly my girlfriend as well) please PM me! And even if you don't feel comfortable doing something like that for a stranger, any points to good field guides for my area or any tidbits of information that could help me would be lovely I know this is a new account but I have been using the shroomery for years (before my hiatus) and finally decided to make an account.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: lookintolearn] 1
#26714884 - 06/02/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well you live in a pretty great state for psychoactive mushrooms, especially the southern half of GA. Here is a list of species that have been found in GA:
Gymnopilus aeruginosus Gymnopilus spectabilis Gymnopilus luteofolius Panaeolus cinctulus Panaeolus cyanescens Panaeolus fimicola Panaeolus olivaceus Panaeolus sp. (Panaeolopsis) Pluteus americanus Psilocybe caerulescens (formerly known as P. weilii) Psilocybe caerulipes Psilocybe cubensis Psilocybe mexicana (rare) Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata Psilocybe tampanensis (formerly known as P. atlantis)
Learn these species, go hiking, bring back photos, post them here, get confirmation. This is how I learned everything I know.
Probably should've posted this in the Mushroom Hunting and Identification forum though.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26714891 - 06/02/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Well you live in a pretty great state for psychoactive mushrooms, especially the southern half of GA. Here is a list of species that have been found in GA:
Gymnopilus aeruginosus Gymnopilus spectabilis Gymnopilus luteofolius Panaeolus cinctulus Panaeolus cyanescens Panaeolus fimicola Panaeolus olivaceus Panaeolus sp. (Panaeolopsis) Pluteus americanus Psilocybe caerulescens (formerly known as P. weilii) Psilocybe caerulipes Psilocybe cubensis Psilocybe mexicana (rare) Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata Psilocybe tampanensis (formerly known as P. atlantis)
Learn these species, go hiking, bring back photos, post them here, get confirmation. This is how I learned everything I know.
Probably should've posted this in the Mushroom Hunting and Identification forum though. 
Nice! Great info, Tmethyl.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Niffla]
#26714898 - 06/02/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You seem surprised.
I'm a Trusted Identifier you know?
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26714903 - 06/02/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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oh no i'm not surprised
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Niffla]
#26714915 - 06/02/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're better at Gif'ing than me, and it hurts to admit that because I really thought I was good.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26714923 - 06/02/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: You're better at Gif'ing than me, and it hurts to admit that because I really thought I was good.

I learned it from watching you though

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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Niffla] 1
#26714934 - 06/02/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can teach you some other things, Niffla.

Mushroom-forming fungi (Agaricomycetes) have the greatest morphological diversity and complexity of any group of fungi. They have radiated into most niches and fulfil diverse roles in the ecosystem, including wood decomposers, pathogens or mycorrhizal mutualists. Despite the importance of mushroom-forming fungi, large-scale patterns of their evolutionary history are poorly known, in part due to the lack of a comprehensive and dated molecular phylogeny. Here, using multigene and genome-based data, we assemble a 5,284-species phylogenetic tree and infer ages and broad patterns of speciation/extinction and morphological innovation in mushroom-forming fungi. Agaricomycetes started a rapid class-wide radiation in the Jurassic, coinciding with the spread of (sub)tropical coniferous forests and a warming climate. A possible mass extinction, several clade-specific adaptive radiations and morphological diversification of fruiting bodies followed during the Cretaceous and the Paleogene, convergently giving rise to the classic toadstool morphology, with a cap, stalk and gills (pileate-stipitate morphology). This morphology is associated with increased rates of lineage diversification, suggesting it represents a key innovation in the evolution of mushroom-forming fungi. The increase in mushroom diversity started during the Mesozoic-Cenozoic radiation event, an era of humid climate when terrestrial communities dominated by gymnosperms and reptiles were also expanding.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26714942 - 06/02/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: I can teach you some other things, Niffla.

Mushroom-forming fungi (Agaricomycetes) have the greatest morphological diversity and complexity of any group of fungi. They have radiated into most niches and fulfil diverse roles in the ecosystem, including wood decomposers, pathogens or mycorrhizal mutualists. Despite the importance of mushroom-forming fungi, large-scale patterns of their evolutionary history are poorly known, in part due to the lack of a comprehensive and dated molecular phylogeny. Here, using multigene and genome-based data, we assemble a 5,284-species phylogenetic tree and infer ages and broad patterns of speciation/extinction and morphological innovation in mushroom-forming fungi. Agaricomycetes started a rapid class-wide radiation in the Jurassic, coinciding with the spread of (sub)tropical coniferous forests and a warming climate. A possible mass extinction, several clade-specific adaptive radiations and morphological diversification of fruiting bodies followed during the Cretaceous and the Paleogene, convergently giving rise to the classic toadstool morphology, with a cap, stalk and gills (pileate-stipitate morphology). This morphology is associated with increased rates of lineage diversification, suggesting it represents a key innovation in the evolution of mushroom-forming fungi. The increase in mushroom diversity started during the Mesozoic-Cenozoic radiation event, an era of humid climate when terrestrial communities dominated by gymnosperms and reptiles were also expanding.

I wonder how many undiscovered mushroom species are out there...
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Niffla] 1
#26714952 - 06/02/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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At minimum, millions. Most Fungi do not even produce a fruiting body, so good luck finding and identifying them, especially if they live in soil mixed up with other microbes and fungi, in a complex tangled web of genetic mayhem. You'd have to collect, isolate, expand, then genetically test everything.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#26714970 - 06/02/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: At minimum, millions. Most Fungi do not even produce a fruiting body, so good luck finding and identifying them, especially if they live in soil mixed up with other microbes and fungi, in a complex tangled web of genetic mayhem. You'd have to collect, isolate, expand, then genetically test everything.
That would be a fun job for real lol
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#26714982 - 06/02/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Get out there man, you can do it.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26717587 - 06/03/20 07:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay so me and my girlfriend went out on a hunt today and these were what I found, not going to eat any of course but just want someone trusted to show me what I got. Many white gilled ones and a few semi brown gilled. I think the one's with nipples may possibly be tiny cubes? Spot check me please  
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: lookintolearn]
#26717597 - 06/03/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh and I found most of these along a trail in a park near me. Mostly along dead trees and leaves and some on a bundle of logs. The clam looking ones were all from fallen trees.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26717637 - 06/03/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Get out there man, you can do it. 
I am confident in containing different species but I have no way to genetically map them :/
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: lookintolearn]
#26717641 - 06/03/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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4-5 Amanita(the 2 grey Amanita are in the section Vaginatae), a few Inocybe, an unknown Polypore, 2 large Entoloma(pink gills), Trametes versicolor(turkey tail). I see at least one Russula, there could be a Cortinarius in there too, would need better photos.
The ones with nipples are very likely Inocybe, and probably toxic.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26717650 - 06/03/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Out of all those the most useful one is Trametes versicolor.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26717654 - 06/03/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Get out there man, you can do it. 
I am confident in containing different species but I have no way to genetically map them :/
Alan Rockefeller can help you with that.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26717659 - 06/03/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26717666 - 06/03/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26717801 - 06/03/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you very much for your help with identifying these I was considering trying the turkey tail but they were all bunched together in one bag so i'm deciding against it. Next time I will take a picture of where its at in nature then afterwards as well I didn't really think of doing that till now haha. So the brown nipples are the least tasty, shows how much I know >.< which one was the unknown by the way?
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: lookintolearn]
#26717810 - 06/03/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It is supposed to be raining for the next 5-6 days so I am going to get back out there after that downpour and hopefully be able to come up with some beautiful fruiting bodies that you lovely people can help me with
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: Tmethyl]
#26717882 - 06/03/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showprofile.php?User=169393
For real? If I start digging up random myc that user would be able to genetically identify it?
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26721995 - 06/05/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I just got my first field guide called Mushrooms of the Southest by Todd F. Elliot and I also purchased Psylocibin Mushrooms of the World by Paul Stammets that will be arriving shortly. Is there any other good recommendations for field guides for the Georgia/Southeast area that you guys can think of ? Gotta get my knowledge upppp!
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: lookintolearn]
#26722151 - 06/05/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Peterson and Audubon field guides are good to have also. Careful they’re addictive.
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Re: Fresh new beginner looking to learn more! [Re: ModularMind]
#26724194 - 06/06/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I saw the Audubon books on amazon and I was thinking about getting them. I should probably read both of these ones I have before I get that so I don't read a few pages between each book only haha x) But hey knowledge is addictive! Currently i'm trying to learn about the genus and different toxins so I know which ones to avoid rather than which ones to eat.
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