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Flushes going to crap.
#26714562 - 06/02/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So all my fresh cakes do extremely well. Once I do a second flush 12+ hours they get really soft and produce garbage pins. When I first started my flushes did a lot better under what I assume were worse conditions. I got 6 out of one cake, now with a larger fruiting chamber more FAE, deeper perlite my secondaries are almost mushy and slightly grey. They smell is perfect. I am misting 3-4 times a day then using a USB hand fan to fan them. This is a picture of the case, I added more holes and another inch of perlite. The top is the same size as the bottom. As I mentioned the first flushes all turn out great.


 a cake I took apart
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Usually first flushes are the strongest, they have the most access to the nutrients in your substrate/grain. With that in mind, subsequent flushes will be slightly weaker.
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Re: Flushes going to crap. [Re: Justweed]
#26714628 - 06/02/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They are almost completely crapping out for some reason. Usually I get great flushes. For some reason I am getting a massive first flush and its killing the cake enough that they are not reproducing. I am trying to figure out where I messed up. I think maybe too much spraying?
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When second flushes+ don't do well 99.9% of the time it's due to lack of water, not nutrients, Fungi can make a lot with very little when it comes to nutrients, but water is the main bottleneck. Are you re-soaking after the first flush is done?
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Re: Flushes going to crap. [Re: Tmethyl]
#26714641 - 06/02/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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How much weight are you getting??
I’ve had clones that will first flush put out 500g wet from one quart spawn and then a tiny second flush and then it’s done.
But the total yield is the same as normal tubs that go three decent flushes.
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Edited by A.k.a (06/02/20 04:50 PM)
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Sockadin



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What is in the top right corner of your picture?
The fruits look overly wet and if you cake came apart easily I think you are getting your whole fC overly hydrated. Almost to much RH and not enough FAE.
This can also be the cause of the mottled caps on your fruits.
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Re: Flushes going to crap. [Re: Sockadin]
#26714740 - 06/02/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Sockadin said: What is in the top right corner of your picture?
Looks like a homemade humidifier, air bubble stone in a jar of water. Probably unnecessary, but still neat.
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Edited by Tmethyl (06/02/20 05:40 PM)
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Re: Flushes going to crap. [Re: Sockadin]
#26714741 - 06/02/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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a 12 hr soak might be too much, if the cake is feeling smooshy afterwards.
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I figured why not . I am not sure if it helps or hinders and it was a choice on my own. I did not realize it has been a thing for awhile. I like the idea it does lose water daily so it is doing something. I think my problem is too much water on the cakes. So when you mist and fan what kind of moisture is left on the cakes? Should I just avoid direct spraying and just hit the sides and the top since its huge? Thanks for the input. I have been doing well with it but sometimes one change changes something else.
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Turn off the bubbler and stop misting for a few days.
To elaborate, fruiting cycles are a reproductive process. If the Mycelium notices an environmental change it will produce fruits to further the survival of its species.
So if you let the chamber dry out a bit your going to trigger proper fruit formation and then bring the RH back up to give the right emvironment for fruit formation.
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Re: Flushes going to crap. [Re: Sockadin]
#26715136 - 06/02/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you I will give it a try. I can always use the extra space where the bubbler went.
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