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Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great?
    #26714253 - 06/02/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So - I am getting tubs to knot and look great, albeit slowly, but they are never pinning. This picture is at 19 days May 23rd, and they look almost exactly the same 8 days later? Any thoughts what is wrong?

These are in CV mixed to the 5050 tek specs
Possibly too much spawn to CV - 7 quarts spawn to 75% of CV mix (650g coir, 2 quarts Verm, 1 gallon h2o)

Any thoughts? This is my second attempt at tubs that has done the same thing... Took off, colonized well, looked good, seemed to knot... then did nothing.



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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: silverp]
    #26714268 - 06/02/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This is 19 days since it's been fully colonized or since spawning?
It's been exactly 8 days with 0 changes from this current state? You're completely sure nothing has changed?

What are the temps in your growing area?

If it's knotting why are the FAE holes taped shut?


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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26714271 - 06/02/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I think it needs more air, I don’t even see knots.


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    #26714277 - 06/02/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: Grenade01]
    #26714315 - 06/02/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I think not enough FAE too. I've read that a sign of good FAE is that there is no condense on the lower side of the hole (correct me if I'm wrong). I see a lot of condense there, just as much as on the rest of the wall of the tub. Evaporation is key, so no FAE, no evaporation.


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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26714320 - 06/02/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks -

The days from start I mentioned = Day 1 is mix spawn with bulk. So this picture is 19 days after bulk sub mixed with spawn. Now at 28 days....

And...

Change?
Well, it has changed slightly. I would say there is more solid mass now vs that picture. Totally possible I am confused about what true knots look like.

Temp?
Temp is 72-78 degrees

Tape?
Honestly - I thought I was supposed to leave the tape on? It is micropore tape. I switched from duct tape to micropore tape around day 10.


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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: silverp]
    #26714337 - 06/02/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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silverp said:
Tape?
Honestly - I thought I was supposed to leave the tape on? It is micropore tape. I switched from duct tape to micropore tape around day 10.




I see, thought it was regular tape. Though, I never got enough FAE for tubs using micropore tape. Very loose polyfill and some extra fanning may help you a lot.
Evaporation is probably the most important pinning trigger, your substrate should be drying off on top if there is enough FAE.


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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26714391 - 06/02/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Will try poly fill and fanning immediately! I hope that is the solution, cause grain, transfers, substrate colonization, etc has been going well... but I can't get anything in large mono's to pin and its frustrating the hell out of me.


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Re: Never pinning - but getting knots and sub looks great? [Re: silverp]
    #26714532 - 06/02/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I see mushrooms face down at 9:00. I think it is probably just enjoying muching down on that aluminum tray.

Also yeah up the fresh air and dry the surface out a bit.


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