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First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite
#26713885 - 06/02/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by shroomgaard (06/06/20 06:24 AM)
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard]
#26713990 - 06/02/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looking good.
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shroomgaard said: When I can expect to harvest? What can I do better to have more pins and a bigger flush?
How fast they develop depends on temps, genetics, substrate water content. However, once the bulk sub is fully colonized it's usually 1-4'ish days before you start seeing pins, then another 2-3 days to full harvest.
You've done almost everything you can do, if you wanted to try something a little experimental, I use to lay a sheet of bubble wrap over the bulk sub(bubbles facing down) once it's fully colonized, this tended to increase pin sets but not by a dramatic amount. Good FAE is your best friend for good pin sets though.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: Tmethyl]
#26714100 - 06/02/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said:

Looking good.
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shroomgaard said: When I can expect to harvest? What can I do better to have more pins and a bigger flush?
How fast they develop depends on temps, genetics, substrate water content. However, once the bulk sub is fully colonized it's usually 1-4'ish days before you start seeing pins, then another 2-3 days to full harvest.
You've done almost everything you can do, if you wanted to try something a little experimental, I use to lay a sheet of bubble wrap over the bulk sub(bubbles facing down) once it's fully colonized, this tended to increase pin sets but not by a dramatic amount. Good FAE is your best friend for good pin sets though.
Thanks man.Funny coincidence, I just noticed a sheet of bubble wrap from some past order lying around my tub, don't know if it were destined to be in the tub I'll try it for sure a few grows down the line.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard]
#26714111 - 06/02/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even better is use bubblewrap on exactly half of a bulk sub, that way you can confirm for yourself whether it's helpful or not. Also I forgot to mention, anytime you fan the tub, lift the bubblewrap first. You want to get fresh air under it.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: Tmethyl]
#26723202 - 06/06/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any update?
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26723443 - 06/06/20 06:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So the growth has been pretty good in the past few days. But now I'm cofused with the size. They have been growing very slowly. I spotted first pins exactly 8 days ago on 30-May. THe current status is this:

Take a look at the closeups of some of the pins:



From what I've read about and learnt related to growing, the best time to harvest is before the veil break and flattening of the cap. But some of my shrooms are pretty small and their cap seems to be flattening. Should I harvest them already? I am growing GTs, so I've heard their second flush is larger than the first. What should I do make the most out of the second flush?
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard]
#26723504 - 06/06/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like it could be a combo of weird genetics and too wet. The ones with the open caps are ready.
If it was from being too wet ease up on the misting and the second flush should be better, the first one hopefully uses up the excess water.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: A.k.a]
#26723513 - 06/06/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Looks like it could be a combo of weird genetics and too wet. ease up on the misting
Agree.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: A.k.a]
#26723548 - 06/06/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I suspect its's too much misting as well. I always check for the surcface conditions and then mist but I might have misted them a bit too much. I'll halven the rate for the second flush, around once every alternate day. BTW, there are tons of side pins, I suspect more than what I have on the top, they're still growing so I'll harvest them a few days later.

Edited by shroomgaard (06/06/20 09:43 AM)
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard] 1
#26723888 - 06/06/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Don’t mist on a schedule, only when it needs it.
With tubs you really won’t need to mist before the first flush if you prepped the coir right. Maybe once or twice super lightly.
Just remember misting isn’t really to water them, you just want to keep a tiny bit of water headed on the surface so it keeps evaporating.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: A.k.a]
#26723901 - 06/06/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Don’t mist on a schedule, only when it needs it.
This little piece of advice is so important and often overlooked. Not following it could ruin your harvest and/or invite bacterial contamination. A good general rule is a little to dry is far better than a little to wet.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: Tmethyl]
#26726515 - 06/07/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So, there are a few things that I want to take away from my first ever grow. This list is mostly the stuff that I realized after feedback or scouting the web for info while growing, but please feel free to comment on the possible improvements:
1. My jars had some uncolonised grains and the colonisation seemed to have stalled for a few weeks. I added them anyways into my bulk substrate. In hindsight shouldn't have done that as that might have increased chances of contamination.
2. My surface could have been more levelled as that really matters while pinning and you prefer your fruits upright.
3. It's ok if the grow is a bit slow. Everyone's grow is influenced by different conditions and genetics, so exactly reproducible results are rare and giving it a couple of days more, usually straightens out the issue.
4. A bit dry is always better than a bit too moist.
Still havent't figured why so much side pinning though..
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: Tmethyl]
#26735928 - 06/11/20 02:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I had the most disappointing experience ever yesterday. Me and my mate had planned to trip with a dose of around 2g dry. This was our first time tripping on shrooms. But we have multiple experiences with acid in the past.
I used a dehydrator to cracker dry the shrooms. I dried them usually for 5-6 hours, sometimes more.
We took around 2g each of dried shrooms at 4:20 PM. I had my last small meal around 3 hours prior to taking them so I was pretty much on an empty stomach. My friend said felt a little happy, similar to the onset of acid. He's usually more sensitive to stuff, so I expected it to hit me soon. But we haited till 6PM and the trip never came. We then ate another 2gms dried and an extra cap at 6:06 PM out of frustation. And then we waited till around 8 PM for the effects but again they never came. So I suspected that my dehydrator might have fucked up the fruits. It doesn't have a temp setting but i checked on amazon and somebody answered a question about the temps that the temps are around 70 C after an hour of operation. But I suspect the dryer was at wrong. Then I still had some decent sized shrroms yet to be harvested. At 8:20, I took 36 gms wet and made a milkshake with some chocolate and drank the disgusting greenish slime. I really hope to trip after this but nothing happened even after 90 mins. Around 9:30 I finally took a bong hit out of dissapointment and then ate some noodles. It felt like the onset of the trip after i settled into my dark room in front of my PC but the feeling passed in 10mins and it never came back.
This left me so dissapointed and confused. I worked hard and persevered over more than 2 months and I couldn't enjoy even one decent trip. Can anyone help in figuring out what happened? It was a multispore grow so, I understand the potency might be a bit random but I ate too many shrooms to not feel any decent effects. I take no medications and my last acid trip was over 15days ago. I smoke weed regularly though. Could it be possible that the first dose was too small and built up tolerance due to which even the wet shrooms didn't work?
TLDR: I took 2g dry a shrooms twice at an interval of two hours and then drank a milkshake with 36g wet shrooms. Didn't trip at all. The max that I felt was a little drowsy and tired.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard]
#26735948 - 06/11/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's recommended to dehydrate mushrooms for 12 hours minimum, 24+ hours if they're big fruits. Not drying them properly would throw off your dosage since they still have water weight (and worsen their shelf life).
Also, it's not much use to dose again after about an hour (if that) because tolerance spikes almost immediately and takes ~2 weeks to return to baseline. Not only does LSD do the same, the two have cross-tolerance. But in this case, it doesn't seem like your acid trip was the issue.
Probably, your shrooms were insufficiently dried and waiting 2 hours between redoses brought ever diminishing returns. Also possible the batch is weaker than average; hard to say with those varied multispore genetics. Either way, it's worth putting the shrooms back in the dehydrator for at least another 6 hours and trying again in a few weeks.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: MethodicalMystical]
#26735953 - 06/11/20 03:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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But they were cracker dry, like I felt no flex at all.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard]
#26736053 - 06/11/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe you fried them in the dehydrator... Weird.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: lefty24]
#26736096 - 06/11/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You just had shitty genetics.
B+ seems to be notorious for that. My Golden Teachers have also been on the weak side too but not that bad.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: shroomgaard]
#26844955 - 07/25/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quick question. Regarding rye grain sterilization. It’s impossible to find a 23qt presto right now. On eBay they are going From 200-290$ and there’s no way I’m gona pay triple the cost. I have an 8qt pressure cooker that does 15psi and I can fit 6-7 half pint mason jars in there. So I was wondering can I do rye in half pint mason jars. I know it’s tedious but it’s my only option. I think!!!
If I were to do rye sterilization in the half pint jars how long would I pressure cook em and how much agar would u guys recommend to use. I’m using 100mm Petri dish. Thanks
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: MethodicalMystical]
#27257153 - 03/17/21 10:39 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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So for all future visitors to the thread, the first time dropping the shrooms was a bit unexpected. I suspect it was because I was expecting stuff coming from acid trips. But after recallibrating my expectations, boy were they good. I had almost 70 gms of dry mushrooms from all the flushes and considering it was my first grow ever, it was quite plentiful. I used the mushrooms throughout the last year and they surpassed all what I was looking for. I am happy that i got all the support that I had from the forum and it was a great experience. I am now halfway through my second grow and it's a very fulfilling hobby. Lots of love and happy trips.
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Re: First try at growing Golden Teachers - Rye grain Tek | Spawned in a unmodified monotub with Coco Coir + Vermiculite [Re: Jbets75]
#27257159 - 03/17/21 10:41 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sure you can do that. I did them in full size jars, but my PC can only fit one jar at a time. So, I repeated the proces with 6 jars one a time. It was tedious but it worked for a broke student. I know it's a bit late of a response but I hope you had a good grow.
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