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Society is so weird * 1
    #26712862 - 06/02/20 01:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Everything about it blows my mind. What are we all doing? I mean for fucking real. I feel disconnected from reality most of the time. Not in necessarily a bad way but I just don’t give a fuck about anything anymore. This shit is pathetic and I know I’m not the only one going through it. Somethings gotta give.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26713043 - 06/02/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ghosts don't eat, sleep or take drugs. If you were a spirit you'd recognize the benefits of existence here. Many powerful entities realize that and have this place sewed up to their liking. You have no realistic option. Enjoy your stay.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26713055 - 06/02/20 05:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

People really want peaceful lives with the least amount of stressors possible. Society protects but also inhibits the individual in their life. That is just the basic premise. Lets define what we mean by society first, where are its boundaries.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26713068 - 06/02/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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InnerWisdom said:
People really want peaceful lives with the least amount of stressors possible. Society protects but also inhibits the individual in their life. That is just the basic premise. Lets define what we mean by society first, where are its boundaries.




There's more than one society ergo there's more than one way of doing things ergo there is accommodation of differences.

Peace within a society hinges on obeying the rules of that society.

Any society has bullies who enjoy consternation or debasement caused by infraction of the rules, ergo societies main purpose is the quiet enjoyment of other people's troubles.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26713632 - 06/02/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Buster_Brown said:
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InnerWisdom said:
People really want peaceful lives with the least amount of stressors possible. Society protects but also inhibits the individual in their life. That is just the basic premise. Lets define what we mean by society first, where are its boundaries.




There's more than one society ergo there's more than one way of doing things ergo there is accommodation of differences.

Peace within a society hinges on obeying the rules of that society.

Any society has bullies who enjoy consternation or debasement caused by infraction of the rules, ergo societies main purpose is the quiet enjoyment of other people's troubles.




So there are SOME bullies who enjoy other peoples troubles.... so societies MAIN purpose is the enjoyment of other peoples troubles?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #26713685 - 06/02/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don’t mean any particular society just society in general. Sorry, I should’ve clarified. I think “society” is an inevitable thing because that’s just how it ends up working out when a group of people get together and start to grow. It’s not inherently bad. It just blows my mind how, to me anyway, it seems most people could do so much better if they treated people how they wanted to be treated and tried to put themselves in other people’s shoes. All that cliche shit really. Most of its true. Most of it is also super easy to practice but it’s like people are too blinded by their own ego or worries or something. I’m guilty of it myself too but I notice it and try to work on those things. I just feel like we could be so much happier and get through life a lot easier if people just stepped out of their own worlds for a minute.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26713722 - 06/02/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

we are complete, yet incomplete.
complete in our ability to think and feel, but incomplete in our capacity to thrive alone.

that seems half baked, or baked with the top off and boiling over. but it is how we are, sealed yet open, finished but partial.

yes society is weird, as we are individually, and in groups of unfinished things co-consuming and rearranging what is.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26713741 - 06/02/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
we are complete, yet incomplete.
complete in our ability to think and feel, but incomplete in our capacity to thrive alone.

that seems half baked, or baked with the top off and boiling over. but it is how we are, sealed yet open, finished but partial.

yes society is weird, as we are individually, and in groups of unfinished things co-consuming and rearranging what is.



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redgreenvines said:
we are complete, yet incomplete.
complete in our ability to think and feel, but incomplete in our capacity to thrive alone.

that seems half baked, or baked with the top off and boiling over. but it is how we are, sealed yet open, finished but partial.

yes society is weird, as we are individually, and in groups of unfinished things co-consuming and rearranging what is.





How could life exist in any other form?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Oldnameforgotten]
    #26713866 - 06/02/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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So there are SOME bullies who enjoy other peoples troubles.... so societies MAIN purpose is the enjoyment of other peoples troubles?




Obviously you missed the memo:

Contempt and sadism are natural products of existence.

Ergo enjoyments naturally gravitate towards the contemptuous and sadistic.
Examples of anyone's contemptuous and sadistic nature are demonstrable if you have the time; ergo everyone has bullying tendencies.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26713922 - 06/02/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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... I should’ve clarified. I think “society” is an inevitable thing because that’s just how it ends up working out when a group of people get together and start to grow. It’s not inherently bad...




Yes a technological society can be proven to be inherently bad. We must have sweatshops making cellphones and we must make it an attractive opportunity to have them work there.
      " The system HAS TO regulate human behavior closely in order to function. At work people have to do what they are told to do, otherwise production would be thrown into chaos. Bureaucracies HAVE TO be run according to rigid rules. To allow any substantial personal discretion to lower-level bureaucrats would disrupt the system and lead to charges of unfairness due to differences in the way individual bureaucrats exercised their discretion. It is true that some restrictions on our freedom could be eliminated, but GENERALLY SPEAKING the regulation of our lives by large organizations is necessary for the functioning of industrial-technological society."

    "In any technologically advanced society the individual's fate MUST depend on decisions that he personally cannot influence to any great extent. A technological society cannot be broken down into small, autonomous communities, because production depends on the cooperation of very large numbers of people and machines. Such a society MUST be highly organized and decisions HAVE TO be made that affect very large numbers of people. When a decision affects, say, a million people, then each of the affected individuals has, on the average, only a one-millionth share in making the decision. What usually happens in practice is that decisions are made by public officials or corporation executives, or by technical specialists, but even when the public votes on a decision the number of voters ordinarily is too large for the vote of any one individual to be significant. [17] Thus most individuals are unable to influence measurably the major decisions that affect their lives. There is no conceivable way to remedy this in a technologically advanced society. The system tries to "solve" this problem by using propaganda to make people WANT the decisions that have been made for them,"


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26714057 - 06/02/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Contempt and sadism are natural products of existence.

Ergo enjoyments naturally gravitate towards the contemptuous and sadistic.
Examples of anyone's contemptuous and sadistic nature are demonstrable if you have the time; ergo everyone has bullying tendencies.



both ergo's are not really logical therefore's at all.

you could truthfully declare that contempt and sadism are found in nature sometimes, and some personalities will form that perversely find pleasure by emulating the forms of contempt and sadism to which they are exposed.

everyone does not have bullying tendencies at all. Only some do, especially if exposed to it a lot in childhood.

I think you got pooched by the word naturally, and maybe from your personal experience amidst a crowd of brutes and bullies at home and school and later at work. This can happen and I am sorry if it has happened to you. I have had my share of exposure but have not been attracted to that way of being.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26714102 - 06/02/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I just don’t give a fuck about anything anymore..



This is the secret to either deep peace or perpetual suffering, you choose. :awesomenod:

How am I dealing with all this bullshit? I just stopped consuming it, and I started a garden so I can keep myself busy.
This will either blow over or get worse, not going to let it bother me.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26714586 - 06/02/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don't care about the world. There are (insert your tragic happening) somewhere every day. What is the point in caring if one cannot make a difference? It's just wasted feelings and effort, worry, fear, time.

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What are we all doing?




Trying to satisfy our fear and greed and loneliness. It has always been so. Always will be.

Why care? And if one has no good reason to care, why feel bad about not caring? I'm not saying don't care at all. Choose your battles wisely.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26714728 - 06/02/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I would call that being a bit negative.

but I guess you don't care.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26714847 - 06/02/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Re: SporeJunkie :
"Everything about it blows my mind. What are we all doing? I mean for fucking real. I feel disconnected from reality most of the time. Not in necessarily a bad way but I just don’t give a fuck about anything anymore. This shit is pathetic and I know I’m not the only one going through it. Somethings gotta give."

From an old 1960's graffiti:
"Reality is the changing face of need"

But it might be better to say, what one focuses attention on,
has a great effect, on one's emotions.

Also another saying:
"you don't have to believe everything you think"
and I would add
"you don't have to identify with every passing emotion"


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26714907 - 06/02/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It's true that in a world of 7+ billion people somewhere, somebody is bleeding out from a gunshot wound. Someone is dying of starvation, disease, cancer. Someone is getting their toes, feet or legs amputated from their diabetes. Someone is dying from the covid. Some woman is getting their ass beat by a drunk man. Babies are being neglected and abused. That's just the tip of the list.

Do you "care" about all those people? If you say yes, I'd say it's just lip service to make yourself feel good. Care is an action word, not some feels. Otherwise, it's just a way of externalizing one's own pain. Now ain't that negative?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26714922 - 06/02/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's true that in a world of 7+ billion people somewhere, somebody is bleeding out from a gunshot wound. Someone is dying of starvation, disease, cancer. Someone is getting their toes, feet or legs amputated from their diabetes. Someone is dying from the covid. Some woman is getting their ass beat by a drunk man. Babies are being neglected and abused. That's just the tip of the list.




Thanks for that I'm going to sleep well tonight with all this on my mind.

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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26714960 - 06/02/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Haha didn’t mean for shit to get so dark or deep. It was just a thought I was having at the time. I do enjoy the discussion that came from it though. A lot of you guys are really insightful and it’s cool to hear everyone’s perspective. I guess that’s another thing that fascinates me about all this. Each and everyone of us is seeing this world through a different set of eyes, and no two people are the same no matter how similar they may be.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26714968 - 06/02/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Do you "care" about all those people? If you say yes, I'd say it's just lip service to make yourself feel good. Care is an action word, not some feels.





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I am sorry if it has happened to you.




More lip service imo, or does he really feel distress?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Tmethyl]
    #26714983 - 06/02/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's true that in a world of 7+ billion people somewhere, somebody is bleeding out from a gunshot wound. Someone is dying of starvation, disease, cancer. Someone is getting their toes, feet or legs amputated from their diabetes. Someone is dying from the covid. Some woman is getting their ass beat by a drunk man. Babies are being neglected and abused. That's just the tip of the list.




Thanks for that I'm going to sleep well tonight with all this on my mind.

:makesmecry:




And for everything thing that happens like that - there is another version of events playing out - positively, with other people.
A baby is born. A sibling gets married. Parents birthday.  A friend recovers from addiction.  A Good Samaritan donates a kidney to someone in need.  Someone is experiencing their first psychedelic trip right now - and they have fully broken through and seen beyond duality into the unity of all life.  A neighbor teaches someone to play lacrosse .  Someone hugs their best friend or crush.  Someone sees their own short comings and vows to change and backs it with a daily effort.  People are online, taking the time to respond to noobs getting into mushrooms and correcting their errors or answering crucial questions, compassionately, out of the good of their hearts.  A Woman feeds ducks & cats at the park.  Am astronaut looks out the window of the ISS and sees earths with endless wonder & possibility.  Millions dreaming, at night I their beds - playing in an unreal dream world of the unconscious.

A flower finds a way to grow and bloom through a crack in the concrete.  Forests and rivers teeming with incredible biodiversity.  A father teaches his son a life lesson while fishing. A big sister teaches her sibling how to do pre algebra.  A dog runs with primal joy in a back yard.  A squirrels having an orgy in a tree.  Someone standing up to prejudice and willful ignorance & evil.
Etc

.  Etc.  Good good.  Good.

People helping all over the world, fighting to balance the bottom line.


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