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OfflineFOAFMAN
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Identify Me!
    #26712186 - 06/01/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Habitat:
North-eastern United States. It was a raised area in a small marsh. Very thick with woody weeds about 2-3 feet high and some dead wood. Ground is solid but moist, very dark clay/mud. The mushrooms are growing in areas with the dead woody weed stems and also near dead rotting wood. 



Gills:
Medium brown to very dark brown gills, I think they are attached but I'm not sure about nomenclature.





Stem:
Stems were anywhere from 1 inch to maybe 4 inches tall. Thin stems, maybe about 1-7mm thick. Stems are white, off white, and slight grey (but maybe from bruising). Stems are hollow in the center (but only about 1/4 of the diameter) with enough water content that they snap when you bend them too much.




Cap:
0.3-2.5 inch caps. Light beige caps, maybe not as golden as the pictures make them look.

Spore print color:
The spores that were on the shorter mushrooms that fell down from the taller ones were black. I am taking a print now, and also have access to a microscope. Stay tuned for that!

Bruising:
It looks like they are bruising very slowly, but are bruising blackish-blue.



Other information:
The only other mushrooms I have experience with are Cubes (and not wild-picked ones). Maybe it's because I'm new to wild mushroom hunting and haven't realized how similar mushrooms are, but everything about these mushrooms, including the way they felt picking them and the look of the mycelium were reminiscent of cubes.





BTW there was some blue light coming in from my window in some of these pictures. I tried to block it out the best I could.

Thanks for reading, everyone!


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: FOAFMAN]
    #26712209 - 06/01/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you have found some ovoids :thumbup:


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: Allium]
    #26712236 - 06/01/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks!

I was worried they weren't ovoids because they didn't have particularly wavy caps, but now I'm learning there are different phenotypes of them.

Also, it seems like ovoids are bigger and meatier, but again, could be differences in phenotype and environmental factors.

The area I found them in has some history with Ovoids as well, so I think we have an positive ID!

Anyone else want to confirm?


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: FOAFMAN]
    #26712476 - 06/01/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They all look good. :thumbup:


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: donjonson420]
    #26712559 - 06/01/20 09:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks! I'm still going to look at the spores through the 'scope just to make sure.


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: FOAFMAN]
    #26713035 - 06/02/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: Allium]
    #26715263 - 06/02/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

UPDATE: Pretty weak spore print probably because they already dropped most of their spores. Brownish-black print.

Looked through a microscope at some spores collected on white paper at 900X and could clearly make out their rhomboid shape. They were tinged blackish-purple, although it seems like at that magnification everything looks mostly grey. I have some things to learn about microscopy.

Couldn't get a picture through the 'scope.


I am about 98% sure these are Ovoids now. Still 2% nervous about eating some wild ones, though.

Anyone else want to confirm ID?


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: FOAFMAN]
    #26723661 - 06/06/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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FOAFMAN said:
UPDATE: Pretty weak spore print probably because they already dropped most of their spores. Brownish-black print.

Looked through a microscope at some spores collected on white paper at 900X and could clearly make out their rhomboid shape. They were tinged blackish-purple, although it seems like at that magnification everything looks mostly grey. I have some things to learn about microscopy.

Couldn't get a picture through the 'scope.


I am about 98% sure these are Ovoids now. Still 2% nervous about eating some wild ones, though.

Anyone else want to confirm ID?




If you can mount a gill edge properly you could look for the distinctly Ovoid cystidia after which this species was named. They're easy to spot at that magnification.  Those do look a bit past their prime although admittedly I've ate much worse in my days with no issues but you may want to consider burying those in landscaped areas with lots of mulch around your house.  They colonize pretty quickly and will provide fresh flushes the following spring.


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: donjonson420]
    #26723820 - 06/06/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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donjonson420 said:
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FOAFMAN said:
UPDATE: Pretty weak spore print probably because they already dropped most of their spores. Brownish-black print.

Looked through a microscope at some spores collected on white paper at 900X and could clearly make out their rhomboid shape. They were tinged blackish-purple, although it seems like at that magnification everything looks mostly grey. I have some things to learn about microscopy.

Couldn't get a picture through the 'scope.


I am about 98% sure these are Ovoids now. Still 2% nervous about eating some wild ones, though.

Anyone else want to confirm ID?




If you can mount a gill edge properly you could look for the distinctly Ovoid cystidia after which this species was named. They're easy to spot at that magnification.  Those do look a bit past their prime although admittedly I've ate much worse in my days with no issues but you may want to consider burying those in landscaped areas with lots of mulch around your house.  They colonize pretty quickly and will provide fresh flushes the following spring.



I agree with :whathesaid:

They look like Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata to me but since you have a microscope I would do as don suggested


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: Doc9151]
    #26740086 - 06/12/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome advice with the microscope, DJ420. That should be visible at a lower magnification, too. The 'scope I'm using is a relic.

I went back to the spot and found a few tiny new ones. Definitely no big meaty ovoids like I've seen on the ovoid thread. I'll have to try to propagate them in more favorable locations, probably with the dirty bottoms of the stems that I pick off.

But it's been a revelation finding these. I thought my area was out of the range of any actives. Now I find myself digging a little deeper into the weeds and looking a little closer at the ground when I'm near the edge of any source of water.


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: FOAFMAN]
    #26741820 - 06/13/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I recommend you use a walking stick or something similar to move the weeds around or you may even up elbow deep into stinging nettles or a fat rattler.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593


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Re: Identify Me! [Re: Doc9151]
    #26742289 - 06/13/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice voids, get yourself a machete or better yet a samurai sword


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