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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #26712967 - 06/02/20 03:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Police officers need to fucking change their culture. All the murderers and others need to be punished. There should be no acceptance of police brutality and trigger happy mistakes. This situation needs a policy of zero tolerance.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #26712968 - 06/02/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #26712974 - 06/02/20 03:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This man has internalized white conservatives hatred of him. No black conservative will ever willingly acknowledge the voter suppression and fear mongering race baiting the GOP has used as its platform for the last 50 years. He, like many conservatives, proposes that blacks and minorities cannot both take responsibility for their destinies to rise to prosperity and hold white conservative people accountable for the last few centuries of their bullshit. I've got news for him and his ilk: they will. Racism is not rhetoric or a talking point it's a reality people live every day from the microaggressions to downright threats to your very existence. People are sick and tired of this bullshit. They're tired of being gaslit by uncle toms and MAGA cultists.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 3
    #26712978 - 06/02/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 3
    #26712989 - 06/02/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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this thread made me cry



Every corner of the internet has some kind of safe space for racists to vent from the safety of their computers. It's no longer a shock. Some of it is edgy adolescents or neckbeard incels. Some of it is genuine good old fashioned skinhead rhetoric. These same people won't take their grievances out in person with the POC they resent though. Wonder why?




LOL @ incels. 2015 called it wants it's insult back. If you hate cops so much why are you hiding on the internet? Go out and fight some. All you people are the same you can't wait to virtue signal how unracist you are, until your house gets burned down, until your business gets looted, until your wife gets gang raped. I lived in a magically diverse part of town, got mugged, had my car broken into etc. Never once had a problem with the cops. If you losers got caught for drugs it's because you are fucking morons. To side with the criminals is retarded. Pro tip: they hate you.

How many posts are there on here where people are talking about getting guns for home defence? Well that gun is for the George Floyds of the world. More white people should arm themsleves since they are being attacked in the streets for the color of their skin now. Bullets are the only message that gets thru. Why is no one talking about Floyd's record anyway? He wasn't some fine upstanding citizen, he was a POS criminal. Everyone who gets shot was always a good boy who was turning his life around, that's always the story. All we need is hs crying mother with a framed graduation picture of her little angel for the media.

Some stats 


"Black people also account for 40% of those who murder police officers"

"The fact is that the number of unarmed African American males who are shot by police each year is similar to the number of Black males annually struck by lightning (Lemoine, 2017). Yet no one thinks black people should live in fear of lighting."


"for every ten black people that are killed by police, there are 45 white people killed by black people"

"Roughly 3,500 blacks were lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968. That’s a rate of 40 per year. Obviously, 40 lynchings per year is 40 too many. But a rate of 40 lynchings per year suggests that for each black person lynched something like 10 – 25 whites were murdered by black citizens, and it is not at all obvious why a black person being lynched is worse than 10 – 25 white people being murdered."


https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2019/08/10/on-racial-bias-in-police-shootings/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #26713009 - 06/02/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's the same reason why the straight pride parades make zero sense. This is an inclusive movement born out of adversity, it provides a network and advocacy for people who still face discrimination every damn day of their life. White pride is the same thing colloquially as white supremacy.

What does it mean to you to be pro white?



exactly

Its so frustrating how people just don't understand how damaging the ideologies from times of slavery are still so embedded in our society. Civil Rights was an extremely bloody affair that took more than a decade to get through and it still barely passed. And when it did it dramatically changed the political landscape for the worst.

An entire new law enforcement division was created with racist motivations at its core, the dea. I don't think I need to go into a long rant on this site about how the War on Drugs is a classist racist government-led initiative that has disenfranchised entire generations of Americans. I think we can all agree on that and if you can't I'd like to know what alternate earth you're living on.

I don't really like to engage in any discussions online about race or take your pick of minority issues because of the bad actors, they generally do it in bad faith. It always comes back to whether or not you know your history and if you're willing to actually listen to those of us who have lived it.

Its so fucking frustrating because its American history, our history yet people are either ignorant of it or have some revisionist version of it. I'm sick of it all. I've avoided this thread since it was made cause I knew how it was gonna go but I gotta vent somewhere. I'm a part of this community too. I love this place but the fools here really grind my gears and I'm not about to start attacking other members because of their own bigotry and obvious idiocy.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: my3rdeye]
    #26713019 - 06/02/20 05:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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LOL @ incels. 2015 called it wants it's insult back. If you hate cops so much why are you hiding on the internet? Go out and fight some. All you people are the same you can't wait to virtue signal how unracist you are, until your house gets burned down, until your business gets looted, until your wife gets gang raped. I lived in a magically diverse part of town, got mugged, had my car broken into etc. Never once had a problem with the cops. If you losers got caught for drugs it's because you are fucking morons. To side with the criminals is retarded. Pro tip: they hate you.

How many posts are there on here where people are talking about getting guns for home defence? Well that gun is for the George Floyds of the world. More white people should arm themsleves since they are being attacked in the streets for the color of their skin now. Bullets are the only message that gets thru. Why is no one talking about Floyd's record anyway? He wasn't some fine upstanding citizen, he was a POS criminal. Everyone who gets shot was always a good boy who was turning his life around,




You know if my words didn't hold much weight you wouldn't have responsed with such an epic melt and just ignored me. The disaffected, outcast nerd loser who cant get pussy turns white nationalist is a meme for a reason. Post a picture. I bet you look utterly unfuckable. 2015 you couldn't get pussy either and yes you're still unfuckable and the term incel still applies. Maybe we need to recruit some gals to get you fuckers laid then peace will have a chance finally.:rofl2:

As far as statistics go I agree the incidence of black targeted police violence are rare and are not solely the results of racial bias- its a systemic issue with police culture of brutality and violence that goes beyond race. Your source attempts to intellectualize apathy for people being killed in the street because "we all get it sometimes". I say thats some bootlicker thug cop loving bullshit and you deserve to be curbstomped by the stormtroopers you worship. People aren't angry because of the statistical likelihood of being killed is inflated, they're angry because one is too many. One wrongful death of any race by cops is unacceptable. The value they provide to society is not WORTH the equivalent of the 34 or so black lives lost a year. That's no longer acceptable im sorry you're so butthurt about people standing up.

Also its funny your narrative of criminals deserving to be executed on the street without due process being justified solely by a petty crime or criminal record, yet when those same criminals take indiscriminate street justice and do the same - become judge and juror and beat that ass or break a window you're upset? Why is it always from right angle this person was a criminal and blah blah even for petty crimes such as countefeit 20s, theft, or loose cigarette sales is deserving of a death sentence? What happened to law and order and justice? Or was that all bullshit rhetoric and they only want justice for wypipo and to coddle cops. Your double standards are appalling and inexcusable.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: my3rdeye]
    #26713046 - 06/02/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Are you trolling with this or actually as stupid as the person who said this?
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"The fact is that the number of unarmed African American males who are shot by police each year is similar to the number of Black males annually struck by lightning (Lemoine, 2017). Yet no one thinks black people should live in fear of lighting."


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #26713047 - 06/02/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You know what Venetianblinds I apologize that got way too personal. I hope you get laid soon man.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #26713060 - 06/02/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You appear to be pushing for violence for your own political agenda.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #26713069 - 06/02/20 05:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's the same reason why the straight pride parades make zero sense. This is an inclusive movement born out of adversity, it provides a network and advocacy for people who still face discrimination every damn day of their life. White pride is the same thing colloquially as white supremacy.

What does it mean to you to be pro white?




This dont make sense.  Being pro-white by your own standard does not mean anti-black, but you just did a three turn dismount on the mental gymnastics on that one.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26713075 - 06/02/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It's the same reason why the straight pride parades make zero sense. This is an inclusive movement born out of adversity, it provides a network and advocacy for people who still face discrimination every damn day of their life. White pride is the same thing colloquially as white supremacy.

What does it mean to you to be pro white?




This dont make sense.  Being pro-white by your own standard does not mean anti-black, but you just did a three turn dismount on the mental gymnastics on that one.



It does make sense. I see the double standard at play but it's fitting for a reason. It's a marginalized group taking up their pride again. A group that has been either oppressed or killed just for being who they are taking up advocacy. Being pro-white or any other non marginalized group is redundant because that group controls the status quo and benefits from this control in such a way that pro-white implies keeping the status quo to the marginalization and oppression of other groups.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #26713088 - 06/02/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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My perception of being white has nothing to do with my issues with black people and to an extent mexicans, except that i dont think they will appriciate the history and institutions of america when they greatly outnumber us




This is what white supremacists are scared of: that when they become a minority they will get treated the same way they have been treating blacks and minorities for centuries. Don't worry your bullshit will fade with your numbers our kids wont keep that going.




I have a feeling you have a broad definition of white supremacist.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman]
    #26713090 - 06/02/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Having an american flag is the height of arrogance?

in america.

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Something tells me you have no idea about how statistics actually work.




They commit about half the murders at 13% of the population




Yeah, the crime statistics aren't that difficult to understand, it's just not a comfortable subject matter when it comes to the race component to those statistics.



They are difficult to understand clearly because isntead of recognizing it as a direct result of the root causes of a host of intersectionality aligned factors that oppress people of color you choose to see it as either individual failings or racial inferiority. So which is it? Are black people just violent and evil, or have they been opressed for 400 years by whites and suffer from poverty and the crime component borne of it? Which is more likely?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26713094 - 06/02/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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My perception of being white has nothing to do with my issues with black people and to an extent mexicans, except that i dont think they will appriciate the history and institutions of america when they greatly outnumber us




This is what white supremacists are scared of: that when they become a minority they will get treated the same way they have been treating blacks and minorities for centuries. Don't worry your bullshit will fade with your numbers our kids wont keep that going.




I have a feeling you have a broad definition of white supremacist.



I'll keep it very specific for you since you're such a fucking devils advocate and a free thinker and woke and whatnot: in this context it means people in the US fretting about Mexicans replacing them as the majority demographic. Perhaps white supremacist wasn't the right terminology lets just call them white cowards.
The counterpoint is always some form of "you think everything is racist." I'm not broadly applying it here at all were talking about very specific people namely conservatives who have used the racial anxieties of whites as political capital for decades now.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
    #26713099 - 06/02/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lets all just sit back and watch the country collapse.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 3
    #26713115 - 06/02/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Lets all just sit back and watch the country collapse.



Or watch the country come together. We all get killed and brutalized by cops let's stand and kneel together peacefully. Black, white, green, everybody. Whens the last time there were this many protests in this many cities? WORLDWIDE. What are you gonna tell young kids in the future you were doing while this was going on "I was busy making moral judgements on internet forums denouncing looters who were in the minority but hyperfocused on by the media." Do you know how utterly lame that sounds?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #26713116 - 06/02/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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venetianblinds said:
LOL @ incels. 2015 called it wants it's insult back. If you hate cops so much why are you hiding on the internet? Go out and fight some. All you people are the same you can't wait to virtue signal how unracist you are, until your house gets burned down, until your business gets looted, until your wife gets gang raped. I lived in a magically diverse part of town, got mugged, had my car broken into etc. Never once had a problem with the cops. If you losers got caught for drugs it's because you are fucking morons. To side with the criminals is retarded. Pro tip: they hate you.

How many posts are there on here where people are talking about getting guns for home defence? Well that gun is for the George Floyds of the world. More white people should arm themsleves since they are being attacked in the streets for the color of their skin now. Bullets are the only message that gets thru. Why is no one talking about Floyd's record anyway? He wasn't some fine upstanding citizen, he was a POS criminal. Everyone who gets shot was always a good boy who was turning his life around,




You know if my words didn't hold much weight you wouldn't have responsed with such an epic melt and just ignored me. The disaffected, outcast nerd loser who cant get pussy turns white nationalist is a meme for a reason. Post a picture. I bet you look utterly unfuckable. 2015 you couldn't get pussy either and yes you're still unfuckable and the term incel still applies. Maybe we need to recruit some gals to get you fuckers laid then peace will have a chance finally.:rofl2:

As far as statistics go I agree the incidence of black targeted police violence are rare and are not solely the results of racial bias- its a systemic issue with police culture of brutality and violence that goes beyond race. Your source attempts to intellectualize apathy for people being killed in the street because "we all get it sometimes". I say thats some bootlicker thug cop loving bullshit and you deserve to be curbstomped by the stormtroopers you worship. People aren't angry because of the statistical likelihood of being killed is inflated, they're angry because one is too many. One wrongful death of any race by cops is unacceptable. The value they provide to society is not WORTH the equivalent of the 34 or so black lives lost a year. That's no longer acceptable im sorry you're so butthurt about people standing up.

Also its funny your narrative of criminals deserving to be executed on the street without due process being justified solely by a petty crime or criminal record, yet when those same criminals take indiscriminate street justice and do the same - become judge and juror and beat that ass or break a window you're upset? Why is it always from right angle this person was a criminal and blah blah even for petty crimes such as countefeit 20s, theft, or loose cigarette sales is deserving of a death sentence? What happened to law and order and justice? Or was that all bullshit rhetoric and they only want justice for wypipo and to coddle cops. Your double standards are appalling and inexcusable.




You accuse somebody of melting and proceed to melt for the next three paragraphs.  There’s nothing for anybody to respond to.  It’s all too emotionally charged for a logical response.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
    #26713122 - 06/02/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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LOL @ incels. 2015 called it wants it's insult back. If you hate cops so much why are you hiding on the internet? Go out and fight some. All you people are the same you can't wait to virtue signal how unracist you are, until your house gets burned down, until your business gets looted, until your wife gets gang raped. I lived in a magically diverse part of town, got mugged, had my car broken into etc. Never once had a problem with the cops. If you losers got caught for drugs it's because you are fucking morons. To side with the criminals is retarded. Pro tip: they hate you.

How many posts are there on here where people are talking about getting guns for home defence? Well that gun is for the George Floyds of the world. More white people should arm themsleves since they are being attacked in the streets for the color of their skin now. Bullets are the only message that gets thru. Why is no one talking about Floyd's record anyway? He wasn't some fine upstanding citizen, he was a POS criminal. Everyone who gets shot was always a good boy who was turning his life around,




You know if my words didn't hold much weight you wouldn't have responsed with such an epic melt and just ignored me. The disaffected, outcast nerd loser who cant get pussy turns white nationalist is a meme for a reason. Post a picture. I bet you look utterly unfuckable. 2015 you couldn't get pussy either and yes you're still unfuckable and the term incel still applies. Maybe we need to recruit some gals to get you fuckers laid then peace will have a chance finally.:rofl2:

As far as statistics go I agree the incidence of black targeted police violence are rare and are not solely the results of racial bias- its a systemic issue with police culture of brutality and violence that goes beyond race. Your source attempts to intellectualize apathy for people being killed in the street because "we all get it sometimes". I say thats some bootlicker thug cop loving bullshit and you deserve to be curbstomped by the stormtroopers you worship. People aren't angry because of the statistical likelihood of being killed is inflated, they're angry because one is too many. One wrongful death of any race by cops is unacceptable. The value they provide to society is not WORTH the equivalent of the 34 or so black lives lost a year. That's no longer acceptable im sorry you're so butthurt about people standing up.

Also its funny your narrative of criminals deserving to be executed on the street without due process being justified solely by a petty crime or criminal record, yet when those same criminals take indiscriminate street justice and do the same - become judge and juror and beat that ass or break a window you're upset? Why is it always from right angle this person was a criminal and blah blah even for petty crimes such as countefeit 20s, theft, or loose cigarette sales is deserving of a death sentence? What happened to law and order and justice? Or was that all bullshit rhetoric and they only want justice for wypipo and to coddle cops. Your double standards are appalling and inexcusable.




You accuse somebody of melting and proceed to melt for the next three paragraphs.  There’s nothing for anybody to respond to.  It’s all too emotionally charged for a logical response.



Yet the fact you responded at all tells you can't address it logically and just want to nitpick about tone. Yes the tone is emotional theres still facts in there that you can't or wont refute. So don't. This isn't a formal debate or a dissertation it's internet banter I can be as melty as I want and you will use that to distract from the validity of my point. Fuck you you're just here to argue.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #26713138 - 06/02/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It does make sense.


No, it’s a logical fallacy to believe otherwise.


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I see the double standard at play but it's fitting for a reason.


There is no double standard.  If one group can be proud of their identity, then so can another, regardless of history or emotional diatribes.

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It's a marginalized group taking up their pride again.


Well good for them, what’s the problem again.

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A group that has been either oppressed or killed just for being who they are taking up advocacy.






I disagree with the oppressed part.

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Being pro-white or any other non marginalized group is redundant because that group controls the status quo




White people do not control the status quo.  That might of been true at one point, it no longer is.

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and benefits from this control in such a way that pro-white implies keeping the status quo to the marginalization and oppression of other groups.




So what are these benefits, and how do I get them?  Is there a form I can fill out or something?


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