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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26734200 - 06/10/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

you glitched, no need to feel guilty, as if you could prevent future glitching.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26734213 - 06/10/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Rahz said:
Choose your battles wisely.




In choosing eggs wisely one may know that fresh eggs don't float or stand up on the bottom of a container of water.

In choosing a house wisely one might check to see if is in a flood plane or has title leans.

In choosing our battles wisely one might survey the opponent for weaknesses that can be taken advantage of.

Rahz doesn't care about the world. Is that a weakness, a character flaw that will prove to be one's undoing?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26734321 - 06/10/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

it's the mask of cynicism


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26734419 - 06/10/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Rahz said:
There was a point to my initial comments. Care has more than one connotation. To care FOR someone one must at least have a few kind words with the hope that a difference is made. Caring ABOUT someone or something generally indicates a willingness to care for in some way. I guess a person can simply spend their whole life feeling bad about everything they don't approve of, but doesn't seem the best. Could that energy not be put to better use?




I thought Rahz already covered the not-caring thing, here^^^

Sorry for resurrecting the argument by responding to the repost.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Forrester]
    #26734440 - 06/10/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I thought Rahz already covered the not-caring thing,




Can you show me the outline for the wise in their choice of battles?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26734457 - 06/10/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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What is the point in caring if one cannot make a difference?




He could not make a difference, so there is no opening for him to work with.

It's not wise for him to battle something in which he sees no chance of success.

OK, now I get it.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26734555 - 06/10/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

enough posturing about caring!


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26734825 - 06/10/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Pshaww!...wisemen…

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Iterations are fine, we don't have to be perfect


may clue us in to an indwelling dissatisfaction, and yet the words:

Swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year
Running over the same old ground
And how we found
The same old fears...

...suggests to me that iterations on the topic of Care may be as close to perfection as we can get.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26734867 - 06/10/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
it's the mask of cynicism




I'm a part time cynic. Cynicism also has more than one connotation. Vice or virtue? You decide.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: SporeJunkie]
    #26734909 - 06/10/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Agreed. I feel that humanity mostly dooms itself. Dunning-Kruger plays a big part in that. With the George Floyd situation, there is a lot of herd mentality. While it looks like people seem to care, they're really just running with the pack and so nothing changes in the end.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Darwin23]
    #26736103 - 06/11/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat:


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: laughingdog]
    #26738747 - 06/12/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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But of course I don't really know, I'm 'just another bozo at  the back of the bus'.




The Beatles lyric "I'm patching a hole where the rain (bozo) gets in, that keeps my mind from wandering" is applicable I think.

An argument about hurricane debris being a source of entertainment can viewed in the context of maintaining access to a resource that has multiple possibilities for entertainment.

The objection of course is that we don't want that mess in our livingroom and prefer the extreme of burying it beyond the access of anyone.

As a metaphor it presents a power struggle on one side with an intent to dominate the front of the bus, and on the other a laissez-faire approach with an eye towards maintaining access to a wealth of distraction that is presented by a pile of debris.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26775161 - 06/22/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Rahz said:
You're welcome to dispute or otherwise contradict what I have to say. Maybe I will learn something new. Maybe not. But patronizing in a debate forum isn't useful. I would rather argue with Red or laughingdog :shrug:




I trust the intimacy between spots and birds of a feather will prove to be a rewarding experience for all concerned.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26777042 - 06/23/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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At times everything seems weird. Being here at all can seem weird.

Even if everything was okay, okay could seem weird but maybe not bad weird, just weird.

But people in general seem to exist on a scale of fucked up. And what's weird is that so many people think everyone is fucked up but them, or they know they're fucked up but don't know how to not be fucked up. And the systems that are supposed to help us? Beliefs of literal virgin births and flying donkeys. Weird. So that's how society turns out... and it's all perfectly normal. Bad drama is better than no drama. When there are intimacy issues good drama can become all but impossible. Bad drama is the only choice. And people say they hate it, but in a way they seem to love it.

It's not just physical death people are avoiding, but death of the ego, which also prevents ecstatic states and feelings of being okay. And instead of taking the steps to experience natural highs, they do everything else they can to create ecstasy, indiscriminate sex, drugs, exciting themselves with violence, hatred, sorrow and remorse. Things that are exhausting rather than life affirming. Almost as if they're trying to kill themselves... but they don't want to die... but they do. Feeling pain can seem better than feeling nothing at all and often those seem to be the only choices. It's weird.





I was watching a show called Life Below Zero. It documents the lives of people who live in isolation in the arctic tundra of northern Alaska. No dependence on societal infrastructure what so ever. Granted some segments of the show are reportedly scripted, but there are plenty of people who actually do this, without the cast and crew.

For the most part they say it makes them feel free. The way they describe their experiences. Being responsible for their own warmth, the acquisition of their own food, water, shelter, their own safety, occupation of their own time, and agency in pretty much every facet of their lives.


Sounds like how life should be. It sounds bliss. Probably isn't, but most likely better off than the status quo if you care so much for individuality.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26778452 - 06/24/20 05:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't care about the world. There are (insert your tragic happening) somewhere every day. What is the point in caring if one cannot make a difference? It's just wasted feelings and effort, worry, fear, time.

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What are we all doing?




Trying to satisfy our fear and greed and loneliness. It has always been so. Always will be.

Why care? And if one has no good reason to care, why feel bad about not caring? I'm not saying don't care at all. Choose your battles wisely.




In synopsis then: You do not care about the world because you do not perceive an opening where leverage can be applied. Correct?


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26779063 - 06/24/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

To "the world"? No. One could reference the butterfly effect but there is nothing new under the Sun.

"I'm not saying don't care at all. Choose your battles wisely."

People are generally going to follow their passion for better or worse. Hopefully they can learn and adjust and cause less pain or even be helpful. But those people die and are replaced with new people who get to learn it all over again. And learning some actual harmony in one's small corner seems no easy task. Lots of old people seem as though they've learned nothing at all in that respect. More bitter. Such are the cards that get dealt. To believe otherwise is judgmental and dare I say arrogant. You can expect better of those you have direct influence over, and it would be wrong to suggest that attitude doesn't have it's place, but expectations can be a bitch.

And if you expect to change the world, what are the chances you yourself become bitter with broken expectations?

Reminds me of an old Eagles song.


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Re: Society is so weird [Re: Rahz]
    #26779319 - 06/24/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

keep on beginning to change the world, there is no expectation beyond that.
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