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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods]
#26711413 - 06/01/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues]
#26711415 - 06/01/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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how long until Covid patients start to weaponize themselves and begin rushing police to cough in their faces?
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psyche delics]
#26711416 - 06/01/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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still gotta wait a couple weeks to find out
i doubt there will be a spike as big as the states who decided to reopen restaurants
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26711424 - 06/01/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tantrika said: how long until Covid patients start to weaponize themselves and begin rushing police to cough in their faces?
I still can't believe cops don't have to wear masks. The amount of people they interact with everyday leaves them super susceptible to being infected... but then they can just go around and spread it freely? I'd be losing my shit if I got arrested and had to sit in a car with a cop who didn't have a mask on.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: feevers]
#26711478 - 06/01/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cops all probably have or have had COVID tbh.
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Re: Chaos in Minnniapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Lloyd [Re: pirate-blues] 1
#26711492 - 06/01/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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pirate-blues said: Getting shot or killed with force by the police isn't a leading cause of death for any other demographic other than young black men.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men
So yeah, it is a racial issue, the numbers don't lie. It's a question of why. And there is no one answer, to suggest so is completely intellectually disingenuous. Past oppression through tactics like redlining(if you're not familiar) has consequences, systemic racism, and multi generational poverty has consequences. The militarization of police forces, and other atrocious things like rejecting applicants for scoring too high on IQ tests, neglecting training on how to deal with mental illness..all of it is an issue. And it's having very real effects that you can measure statistically, so imo, to ignore this as a racial issue, is to ignore a basic truth.
Here is the truth I see, from the stats in that link
Here’s how it compares to other leading causes of death for black men in their mid-to-late 20s:
Police use of force 3.4
assault 94.2
So they are 30 times more likely to get killed by a member of their own community, than by the police, because I fucking assure you those weren't klan lynchings under the "assault" category. Why don't they have any protests over gang shootings? When those happen there could be 100 witnesses and no one saw nuffin. So in truth they don't care about all black lives only the small percent taken by law enforcement.
And now its a chance to loot, and attack the store owners who made something of their lives unlike the crack slinging baby daddies. These people are worthless, their lives have no value, its a negative value they cost the taxpayer for incaration and food stamps. I'm totally okay with shooting looters. You want to know why black community has such rate of inceration, look at the news
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Re: Chaos in Minnniapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Lloyd [Re: sui]
#26711494 - 06/01/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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sui said: How do you update the constitution?
Isn't it like updating Wikipedia?
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Re: Chaos in Minnniapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Lloyd [Re: my3rdeye] 2
#26711498 - 06/01/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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pirate-blues said: Getting shot or killed with force by the police isn't a leading cause of death for any other demographic other than young black men.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men
So yeah, it is a racial issue, the numbers don't lie. It's a question of why. And there is no one answer, to suggest so is completely intellectually disingenuous. Past oppression through tactics like redlining(if you're not familiar) has consequences, systemic racism, and multi generational poverty has consequences. The militarization of police forces, and other atrocious things like rejecting applicants for scoring too high on IQ tests, neglecting training on how to deal with mental illness..all of it is an issue. And it's having very real effects that you can measure statistically, so imo, to ignore this as a racial issue, is to ignore a basic truth.
Here is the truth I see, from the stats in that link
Here’s how it compares to other leading causes of death for black men in their mid-to-late 20s:
Police use of force 3.4
assault 94.2
So they are 30 times more likely to get killed by a member of their own community, than by the police, because I fucking assure you those weren't klan lynchings under the "assault" category. Why don't they have any protests over gang shootings? When those happen there could be 100 witnesses and no one saw nuffin. So in truth they don't care about all black lives only the small percent taken by law enforcement.
And now its a chance to loot, and attack the store owners who made something of their lives unlike the crack slinging baby daddies. These people are worthless, their lives have no value, its a negative value they cost the taxpayer for incaration and food stamps. I'm totally okay with shooting looters. You want to know why black community has such rate of inceration, look at the news
Gross.
Your post, I mean. The better term would be ignorance.
Edited by pirate-blues (06/01/20 01:19 PM)
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues]
#26711499 - 06/01/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was thinking the same thing.
It's like they forgot we're in the middle of a pandemic or something or they just don't care and that's... not a positive check in their box...
I can understand the police chief giving a speech without a mask but like the cop stopping that girl's bleeding with his bare hands and no mask made me cringe hard.
That's just stupid even in normal times.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26711502 - 06/01/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: I was thinking the same thing.
It's like they forgot we're in the middle of a pandemic or something or they just don't care and that's... not a positive check in their box...
I can understand the police chief giving a speech without a mask but like the cop stopping that girl's bleeding with his bare hands and no mask made me cringe hard.
That's just stupid even in normal times.
Dude I feel so bad for that girl. She even wore her protective goggles out to be extra prepared for her grocery run. Now she's got a hole in her head and probably COVID.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26711511 - 06/01/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tantrika said: how long until Covid patients start to weaponize themselves and begin rushing police to cough in their faces?
I was expecting some murder hornet nest attacks, used both by police and against police. just murder hornets everywhere.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26711513 - 06/01/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tantrika said: how long until Covid patients start to weaponize themselves and begin rushing police to cough in their faces?
I would not be surprised if some of our more nihilistic brethren don't already have samples, liquid culture or petri, that they are willing to weaponise in an attempt to bring about their version of utopia.
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Re: Chaos in Minnniapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Lloyd [Re: my3rdeye]
#26711560 - 06/01/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
Here’s how it compares to other leading causes of death for black men in their mid-to-late 20s:
Police use of force 3.4
assault 94.2
So they are 30 times more likely to get killed by a member of their own community, than by the police, because I fucking assure you those weren't klan lynchings under the "assault" category. Why don't they have any protests over gang shootings? When those happen there could be 100 witnesses and no one saw nuffin. So in truth they don't care about all black lives only the small percent taken by law enforcement.
Police brutality and oppression isn't exactly factored into the death count.
And gangs don't have their salaries paid by the people they're shooting, and aren't politically protected and more or less immune to prosecution (unless the murder the cop commits is caught on camera and leads to riots).
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla]
#26711587 - 06/01/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said: And what happened to the covid shaming for those not social distancing? Are we not doing that anymore?
I didn’t see a single protester at the White House who wasn’t wearing a mask. The secret service not so much.
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Re: Chaos in Minnniapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Lloyd [Re: my3rdeye] 3
#26711606 - 06/01/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said:
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pirate-blues said: Getting shot or killed with force by the police isn't a leading cause of death for any other demographic other than young black men.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-08-15/police-shootings-are-a-leading-cause-of-death-for-black-men
So yeah, it is a racial issue, the numbers don't lie. It's a question of why. And there is no one answer, to suggest so is completely intellectually disingenuous. Past oppression through tactics like redlining(if you're not familiar) has consequences, systemic racism, and multi generational poverty has consequences. The militarization of police forces, and other atrocious things like rejecting applicants for scoring too high on IQ tests, neglecting training on how to deal with mental illness..all of it is an issue. And it's having very real effects that you can measure statistically, so imo, to ignore this as a racial issue, is to ignore a basic truth.
Here is the truth I see, from the stats in that link
Here’s how it compares to other leading causes of death for black men in their mid-to-late 20s:
Police use of force 3.4
assault 94.2
So they are 30 times more likely to get killed by a member of their own community, than by the police, because I fucking assure you those weren't klan lynchings under the "assault" category. Why don't they have any protests over gang shootings? When those happen there could be 100 witnesses and no one saw nuffin. So in truth they don't care about all black lives only the small percent taken by law enforcement.
And now its a chance to loot, and attack the store owners who made something of their lives unlike the crack slinging baby daddies. These people are worthless, their lives have no value, its a negative value they cost the taxpayer for incaration and food stamps. I'm totally okay with shooting looters. You want to know why black community has such rate of inceration, look at the news
How about this fact. Police officers constitute about 0.3% of the population and commit 8% of the homicides. That’s bad enough, but the anger stems from the fact that they are almost never held responsible for their actions. They are in effect above the law. What I find most amazing is that conservatives don’t seem to care about actual tyranny. I thought that’s what the guns were for. Why aren’t you protecting citizens from the tyranny of these unaccountable agents of government?
Where are the protests about gang violence? Idk. These are protests about police violence. Different problem with different solutions. It’s like complaining that people who are trying to cure cancer are ignoring heart disease and diabetes.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods] 1
#26711626 - 06/01/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said: And what happened to the covid shaming for those not social distancing? Are we not doing that anymore?
I didn’t see a single protester at the White House who wasn’t wearing a mask. The secret service not so much.
Oh the mask wearing has been on point for sure.
I especially commend the looters on their covid awareness. All the looting videos I've seen have been perfect examples of how to loot in the midst of a pandemic -- masks on and proper 6 foot social distancing between fellow looters. I mean there are exceptions though like when you need a fellow looter or two to help you carry that 80 inch 4K flatscreen out. You kinda have to break social distancing there understandably.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla] 3
#26711635 - 06/01/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Now do the cops who kill people without wearing masks. I feel like history has demonstrated if you stop the police from killing citizens, most of this country’s looting problems would go away.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla] 2
#26711636 - 06/01/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Niffla said:
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koods said:
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Niffla said: And what happened to the covid shaming for those not social distancing? Are we not doing that anymore?
I didn’t see a single protester at the White House who wasn’t wearing a mask. The secret service not so much.
Oh the mask wearing has been on point for sure.
I especially commend the looters on their covid awareness. All the looting videos I've seen have been perfect examples of how to loot in the midst of a pandemic -- masks on and proper 6 foot social distancing between fellow looters. I mean there are exceptions though like when you need a fellow looter or two to help you carry that 80 inch 4K flatscreen out. You kinda have to break social distancing there understandably.

500 years of systematic oppression, loss of life and property and all you care about is some trinkets and buildings that will be covered by insurance. How does it feel to willfully ignore the suffering of an entire race of people over a few opportunists and people taking advantage of a chance to riot and vent after being cooped inside? What level of moral purity do minorities need to reach for them to gain human rights and justice equal to your privileged self? They can't peacefully protest without being lambasted or assaulted with counter movements and they can't protect themselves from the savagery of the police state what is the appropriate response? Protest out of sight conveniently so you can absolve yourself of the guilt of benefiting from the same hegemony these police protect?
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods] 1
#26711642 - 06/01/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looting and violence seem to be the only way to get people to pay attention. It works. They need to keep it up until the people with the power to make the serious changes to policing do so. This shit has gone in long enough. Maybe they’ll have to start killing cops. If broken windows and burning cars doesn’t work, then the cops need to start dying.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom]
#26711653 - 06/01/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: Now do the cops who kill people without wearing masks. I feel like history has demonstrated if you stop the police from killing citizens, most of this country’s looting problems would go away.
The cops' covid mask game has been subpar for sure. And I agree it is the police who light the fuse to these riots.
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500 years of systematic oppression, loss of life and property and all you care about is some trinkets and buildings that will be covered by insurance. How does it feel to willfully ignore the suffering of an entire race of people over a few opportunists and people taking advantage of a chance to riot and vent after being cooped inside? What level of moral purity do minorities need to reach for them to gain human rights and justice equal to your privileged self? They can't peacefully protest without being lambasted or assaulted with counter movements and they can't protect themselves from the savagery of the police state what is the appropriate response? Protest out of sight conveniently so you can absolve yourself of the guilt of benefiting from the same hegemony these police protect?
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Reeeelax, angry man. I was saying something nice about the looters.
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