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Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed?
#26709465 - 05/31/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So this outdoor bed I started a few weeks ago started pinning yesterday morning. I started originally with a print labeled "wild pan cyan seminole county Florida blue springs" but I also got a cube syringe from the guy mislabeled as a pan syringe. That was a huge disappointment. But I've literally never even seen pan cyans in person and theres not much I can find about the blue springs variety. And these don't look like the classic grey/whitish ones I see. Theres little pins all through the bed so I know they're coming from the spawn I put there and not some random mycel. I've been looking forward to my first trip with something more potent than cubes and I'd like to go into it without any doubts about what I'm ingesting. Any help would be amazing guys! Thanks!
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: Hereigrow]
#26709485 - 05/31/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can you show a spore print?
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: RRedBBeard]
#26709488 - 05/31/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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These are the first few fruits from it so I haven't gotten one yet. I plan on taking one as soon as I'm able.
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: Hereigrow]
#26709491 - 05/31/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They Could Be Pan. Cyans But Those Stems & The Mottled Edges Around The Cap Margin Point To Panaeolus Papilionaceus.
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: MpSeph]
#26709619 - 05/31/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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MpSeph said: They Could Be Pan. Cyans But Those Stems & The Mottled Edges Around The Cap Margin Point To Panaeolus Papilionaceus.
On that big one it does look like mottled edges around the rim on that big one, but its actually the gills just starting to show. It's an odd angle. Theres no veil or veil remnants like google says papilionaceus should have that make it actually mottled around the rim. I think that may be what you're seeing. Not trying to say you're wrong cause I have no clue, but I added more pics so you can see what I mean. You can see some of the smalled ones around in one of the photos that have flattened out and are the typical white color I was expecting but they're literally like the size of a toothpick..
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: Hereigrow]
#26709776 - 05/31/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, My Bad, Those New Pics Helped Alot 
Those Are Definitely A Panaeolus In The (Copelandia) Group, But I'm Not So Sure They Are Cyanescens. They Could Be, But They Could Also Be Another Active Pan Sp In The (Copelandia) Group.
Either Way, Your Good To Go, Pick Them & Watch Them Turn Bluish/Greenish Where Injured
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: MpSeph]
#26709791 - 05/31/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I actually did just cut the biggest one in the pictures. Didn't take any photos because I was in a fluster and getting frustrated because I was starting to think I was growing garbage 🤣
There didn't seem to be any blueing where I grabbed the stem, but the stump where I cut it almost instantly turned dark blue/black. And when I cut the cap the part of the stem that actually connects up to the underside of the cap quickly turned dark blueish/green. I think I'm golden 😊
Thanks for you help man! Much appreciated! Looks like my day off this week is gonna be a good one!
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: Hereigrow]
#26709826 - 05/31/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They Are Potent Little Mushrooms, Stronger Than Cubes
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: MpSeph]
#26709867 - 05/31/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes that's what I've heard, I'm super excited! This will be my first time with anything more potent than cubes. I am very experienced with tripping though, just was never really into mushrooms in those days when I was younger. Regardless of that though I seem to have a crazy tolerance for some unknown reason to me. My last dose was 100g fresh APE reduced with citric acid to a tea and it was amazing. Right at what I would like a really strong one to be. Before that I had taken 7-10g of regular dry cubes multiple times and been very disappointed. Huge body loads and not much for visuals. Because of those two things I'm planning on starting out with a 35g fresh tea. Sound like a good starting point?
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: Hereigrow]
#26710096 - 05/31/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, Sounds Good, I Don't Mind Telling People To Go For It, If They Have Some Experience Under Their Belt 
For First Timers I Usually Recommend A Low Dose, For Safety Reasons.
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: MpSeph]
#26710528 - 06/01/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here's some updated pics of a few specimens I snipped. The blue staining is very apparent! They're just soooo tiny, I've got about a gram wet from 10ish shrooms 🤦♂️


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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: Hereigrow]
#26710794 - 06/01/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah they dry to nothing, mine were 95%+ water.
Be careful man it’s a completely different trip than cubes.
I took .5 dry and it was comparable to 2-3g cubes.
For me it had very little mental effect, I was sitting there feeling a tiny bit tripped out wondering if I didn’t take enough and then I’d have the most realistic visuals I’ve ever had. Much more acid than cubes.
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Re: Are these really Pan. Cyans in my outdoor bed? [Re: A.k.a]
#26710800 - 06/01/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That makes me sooo excited to try them! That sounds exactly like what I've been looking for! I'll only be using them fresh anyway as well. I make freshie teas and freeze them for later use 👌
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