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FruitOfLife
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#26709017 - 05/31/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What happened to George Floyd is a damn shame and should never happen to any person no matter their race. This type of police behavior should never happen and there needs to be changes made to help prevent police from acting this way in the future. That being said, the response from the people in this country is beyond horrible. There is a right way and a wrong way to get a point across and protest.
I fully support the right to protest peacefully, but what is happening right now is in some major cities is insane. These protests are getting out of hand and people are just using them as an excuse to loot and cause unneeded damage. I watched some live footage last night from Minneapolis and Los Angeles and I am ashamed of these people. People acting this way is going against exactly what they are protesting for!
The officer who murdered George Floyd was charged with manslaughter and third degree murder, and the other officers are being investigated too. At this point people are just violently protesting because they want to cause chaos and destruction. If the officer walked away scott free then I would understand the continued protests, but he was charged and will be going to prison. What more do these people want right now? I understand society has a want for instant gratification, but laws and justice can't just happen in the snap of a finger.
Maybe some one can help me understand better the need to for people to act this way, but I can't see it. What is happening right now is sickening, the people looting, vandalizing, and throwing objects at police are disgusting human beings and in my opinion they are giving police a very good reason to use excessive force and more non lethal means of calming this shit down.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: FruitOfLife]
#26709021 - 05/31/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: FruitOfLife]
#26709023 - 05/31/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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the inciting incident this week was when cops shot kneeling protesters in the face with teargas in minneapolis for no reason
so yeah it sucks but the cops continue to escalate it
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FruitOfLife
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TheFakeSunRa said: This might surprise you but there’s already a thread on it
Prove it.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: FruitOfLife] 5
#26709044 - 05/31/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It isn't just about racial killings. It's social unrest caused by high unemployment, the wealth gap and a poor social safety net. When you have an interruption like the corona virus people are going to act out. There are going to be protests in the street over something, anything. This just popped off.
People are just fed up right now.
When Vancouver lost the Stanley Cup there was no reason to riot and burn cars and break windows, but sometimes it's just the feeling at the the time. Mob violence is never a rational expression of thought.
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cannabinated said: the inciting incident this week was when cops shot kneeling protesters in the face with teargas in minneapolis for no reason
so yeah it sucks but the cops continue to escalate it
I get it, what happened was fucked up and that cop committed murder. But to take the protests to this level is counter productive to what the people want.
Obviously this will never happen but the best solution IMO is when an officer does something like this and it's clearly murder, then you throw that officer to the mobs and bring back things like stoning to death or something along those lines. Let the people take out their frustrations while bringing justice to a piece of shit human being who took his authority too far.
Not only will it balance the scale, but it will deter future police officers from using excessive force and abusing their power because they won't want to be stoned to death. Just a thought.
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Ahab McBathsalts said: It isn't just about racial killings. It's social unrest caused by high unemployment, the wealth gap and a poor social safety net. When you have an interruption like the corona virus people are going to act out. There are going to be protests in the street over something, anything. This just popped off.
People are just fed up right now.
When Vancouver lost the Stanley Cup there was no reason to riot and burn cars and break windows, but sometimes it's just the feeling at the the time. Mob violence is never a rational expression of thought.
You make a really good point, I didn't take into effect all the other shit going on right now.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: FruitOfLife] 2
#26709071 - 05/31/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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My only opinion is that peaceful protests are always ignored, it's business as usual after a peaceful protest, and although these protests are violent and likely not a good course of action, it is an inevitable consequence of years and years of ignoring peaceful protests. This is the inevitable conclusion that should have been fully anticipated.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#26709090 - 05/31/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: My only opinion is that peaceful protests are always ignored, it's business as usual after a peaceful protest, and although these protests are violent and likely not a good course of action, it is an inevitable consequence of years and years of ignoring peaceful protests.
I went to like 15 global marijuana marches in a row with zero violence and eventually pot got legalized. If we attacked a bunch of cops it would have looked bad, even though users of illegal drugs have the most reasons for a cop beef.
I haven't seen violence at any of the G 20 protests have any positive effect. The LA riots in the 90s had no positive after effects. The debris will get swept up, more whites will get guns out of fear and two weeks from now nothing will have changed.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#26709128 - 05/31/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: My only opinion is that peaceful protests are always ignored, it's business as usual after a peaceful protest, and although these protests are violent and likely not a good course of action, it is an inevitable consequence of years and years of ignoring peaceful protests. This is the inevitable conclusion that should have been fully anticipated.
While I agree that peaceful protests never work in America, you should take it out on the political offices and the powers that be, not small businesses.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: viraldrome] 5
#26709134 - 05/31/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Standing on a corner with some fuck ass sign ain’t gonna do shit. How much property damage is equal to a mans life? 2men? 10 men? 1,000 men?
If the destruction makes the op feel uncomfortable, just think of George with a knee on his neck and all the other countless blacks, including dear Dr. King who was so peaceful and got shot through the head anyway.
I went to protest last night and peaceful protests ain’t gonna do shit! Cops shut it down, called it an unlawful gathering
They stripping away our rights, taking our lives, and you’re main concern is merchandise? We don’t deserve this country and we’re gonna lose this country. That’s clear to me because people just don’t care. This shit show is what we deserve
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: Tmethyl]
#26709140 - 05/31/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: My only opinion is that peaceful protests are always ignored, it's business as usual after a peaceful protest, and although these protests are violent and likely not a good course of action, it is an inevitable consequence of years and years of ignoring peaceful protests. This is the inevitable conclusion that should have been fully anticipated.
Agreed.
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: Citizen X] 3
#26709151 - 05/31/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have no problem with riots and violence property damage to get a point across because... well it's sometimes the only way to get attention.
The issue I take is that it's directionless. No one is making measurable demands. Everyone is just saying "we're pissed and we hate you."
Why do I know this? Well because the riots are still happening after charges for all officers involved were brought up.
It says I'm angry. Not "create federal oversight for police that doesn't rely on them to do their jobs as current court systems do." Or "standardize training." Or "standardize and oversee testing to weed out sociopaths and people who would be unable to perform the duty."
Only message I got was... stop being racist?
I had a similar problem when this movement was called Black Lives Matter. No one's really demanding anything. The first step was awareness. And outrage. We haven't gone beyond that step.
If you ask me the rioters are children trying to mimic adult things.
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Yeah basically.
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I'm #teamriot cos that's the only way this country will change for the better.....over lots of blood. Otherwise people will still be letting the rich comfortably control them. I say stop destroying business and start targeting idk say credit card buildings and oil refineries? Idk just a suggestion
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I agree with that Cookie, without a clear direction and goal, where could this even go?
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It is done.
See this is how you protest, he stated his demands and reached his goal.
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#26709165 - 05/31/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The chosen one has returned
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: Tmethyl]
#26709167 - 05/31/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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we should just all take a trip to occupy wilmington delaware
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Where?
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Re: These protests are insane [Re: cinderblock] 4
#26709273 - 05/31/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: My only opinion is that peaceful protests are always ignored, it's business as usual after a peaceful protest, and although these protests are violent and likely not a good course of action, it is an inevitable consequence of years and years of ignoring peaceful protests. This is the inevitable conclusion that should have been fully anticipated.
While I agree that peaceful protests never work in America, you should take it out on the political offices and the powers that be, not small businesses.
Burn down the Whitehouse and hang the politicians.
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