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Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? * 1
    #26708452 - 05/31/20 04:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

For large amounts of spawn, spawn bags are definitely the way to go.

Gallon jars are awesome AF too though. I have a set of 20 jars, they were suprisingly inexpensive (free shipping too). Autoclaveble plastic lids cost just a few bux on FP.
Because they are gallon jars, I add extra GE holes. I heat the flat end of a 1/2" drill bit to melt perfect holes thru (drill cracks the lids), and pop an SFD up under.

I inoculate with either a half or full quart grain master when doing G2G.

They also rule when I just want to do one tub of something or test a clone - I just get a jar together, blend up my agar wedge with water in my Eberbach unit and pour in to inoculate the grains. Boom.

The obvious downside is I can only sterilize one at a time in my Presto 23 or AA921.
I can sterilize a few in a day though and can get all 20 done in a few days if I want. Helps to stagger the spawn a little too. Other drawback is the space they take up but what can you do.



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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: mushpunx] * 1
    #26708482 - 05/31/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I like it...qaurt jars are pain in the butt to clean and manage. I've been thinking about moving to bags...I'm might grab a few of theses gallon jars to play with as well.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: lateforthafuture]
    #26708507 - 05/31/20 05:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have a case of them but have yet to use due to bad reviews..this post has changed my mind but im not able to make LC due to no syringes..can I just pour LC into a jar of grains instead?


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: mushpunx]
    #26708509 - 05/31/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't know they had gallon jars. I don't think I would use them for growing because of the time for full colonization before contamination. But I think they would be great for storage, if they're as air tight as quart canning jars.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Sunny Skies]
    #26708511 - 05/31/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yes


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Sunny Skies]
    #26708566 - 05/31/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I have a case of them but have yet to use due to bad reviews..this post has changed my mind but im not able to make LC due to no syringes..can I just pour LC into a jar of grains instead?





You can just pour it in , yeah. Only use LC that was inoculated with a clean agar culture


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: mushpunx]
    #26708640 - 05/31/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I might have to check these out.

I’ve never seen anything bigger than half gallons unless I’m remembering wrong and the ones I have are actually gallon.

Been using them for storing dry shrooms but I do occasionally think about loading one with wbs.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: mushpunx]
    #26708644 - 05/31/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I didn't know they had gallon jars. I don't think I would use them for growing because of the time for full colonization before contamination. But I think they would be great for storage, if they're as air tight as quart canning jars.




I use them for storing dried fruits too, I like that it keeps them from breaking up. I like my mushrooms to have good presentation haha

The colonization time is no longer than spawn bags. When I inoculate a gallon jar with a half or full quart grain master, it is usually fully colonized in a few days tops.
Very fast with liquid inoculant or LC too.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26708648 - 05/31/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I use gal once. I like 1/2 gal jars. Only fits 4 in presto tho. Better than one.

Buy big jars are fun. Bags are fun. Got more in PC. But jars are cool like you said to make a tub


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26708706 - 05/31/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Do these gallon jars use a standard 2-piece canning lid? If not, I just can't trust they're air tight.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26708805 - 05/31/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Listen all my 1/2 gal pickle jars never contam! The lids do just fine. I stuffed poly in a hole I drilled but never used tyvek or anything


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26708826 - 05/31/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Listen all my 1/2 gal pickle jars never contam! The lids do just fine. I stuffed poly in a hole I drilled but never used tyvek or anything



Me too.  Never had any issue with the pickle jar lids on my half gallons.  If someone can't get over the fear factor they can always wrap the sides of the lid/neck with ling wrap or whatever like a plate.  Needless work though, IMO.
As for the gallon jars, I used to have 10 I'd use for spawn for my outdoor grows, and I miss the hell out of them.  LOVE gallons. :nodofunderstanding:  Not sure where you got those, but I can't find a good deal on gallons to save my life...


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26708942 - 05/31/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Does anybody know how many half-gallons you can sterilize in a 23 quart presto?  If the pressure cooker can hold 4 of them, that might be the most efficient use of glassware.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: DigDug]
    #26708972 - 05/31/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

How long does one run 1/2gallon jars in PC for?standard 120mins or a little longer cause of the extra size??


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Zifozonke]
    #26709034 - 05/31/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Does anybody know how many half-gallons you can sterilize in a 23 quart presto?  If the pressure cooker can hold 4 of them, that might be the most efficient use of glassware.




2 of the taller/Vlassic pickle jars (they're tall and I have to lay them over in mine), or 4 of the shorter/square-ish canning 1/2 gallons (I think I have Korr brand atm but not 100% sure as I'm at work lol), or 3 of the shorter, slightly fatter 1/2 gallon picckle jars standing up.  23qt Prestos are just not that friendly to 1/2 gallons fitting well/efficiently.  I have started this week going back to steaming 1/2 gallons in a crab-boil pot outdoors over my stone-fre pit.  Like a dirty ol caveman.  8hrs for 8 1/2gal.

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How long does one run 1/2gallon jars in PC for?standard 120mins or a little longer cause of the extra size??





I run my 1/2 gallons for 150min @15psi.  Never had an issue with contamination that I myself didn't introduce after the fact.

Edit: whoops- my 23qt Prestos do in fact fit 4 of the pickle 1/2 gallons.  My 16 QTs (1 unbrandeed/old AF and 1 Presto 16) fit as described.  I tend to run a couple 1/2gal and a handful of smaller jars ina  single run to get more overall space filled PER run and so multiple runs in a day so pardon the confusion.  Derp.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26709048 - 05/31/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I run mine for 2hours and can fit 4 1/2gal jars in mine. 4 mason jars or 4 pickle jars. 23qt presto.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26709098 - 05/31/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Would you guys buy jars that were 1-2qts each and shaped special to completely fill a presto 23?

That’d be a good product to make for cult. Like 7 wedge shaped jars that went up to the top of the presto and fit together perfectly to make a circle.

Or like four bigger quarter circle jars.


Like this but fit to the pc perfectly.


I’m kinda surprised it’s not a thing already as popular as canning apparently is.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26709100 - 05/31/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Listen all my 1/2 gal pickle jars never contam! The lids do just fine. I stuffed poly in a hole I drilled but never used tyvek or anything




I normally use unmodified plastic lids for spawn jars, I have no problem with that. I was specifically referring to using gallon jars for dry fruit storage. They need to be airtight, and ime, that has to be 2-piece canning lids, which I've never seen for anything bigger than the half gallon jars I already use.


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26709147 - 05/31/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Do these gallon jars use a standard 2-piece canning lid? If not, I just can't trust they're air tight.





The jars I use do not come with lids. I like using these from FP
https://fungi.com/products/110mm-autoclavable-lids-set-of-10
I use those same style lids on my quarts too. They don't warp, they're cheap, + one piece.

I have never had any problems with them for just simple storage


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26709295 - 05/31/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Where did you get those gallon jars with free shipping?


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Re: Anyone else like using gallon spawn jars? [Re: ouuwee]
    #26709453 - 05/31/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Where did you get those gallon jars with free shipping?




It's been a few years now, I'll have to look - they are nice and thick too, haven't broken any. Came 4 to a box.

I paid under $40 for 20 jars no shipping


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