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South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help
    #26705352 - 05/29/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Need help identifying please are they cubensis??? Was working out at my ranch today after good rainfall and found these. Took as many pictures as I could but my grandpa was with me and I didn't want him seeing me snooping around the grass and cow shit for shrooms lol

Habitat:
Found these growing in my pasture, in the shade of a mesquite tree, growing straight off the cow poo

Gills:
Tan/light brown/ blackish

Stem:
Pretty thin

Caps: some have spherical and some have conical

Spore print color: seemed like they all had black spotes

Bruising:
Couldn't tell any bruising but I didn't have time to see

I hope these pics are good enough



























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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: Saltyskibum]
    #26705385 - 05/29/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

No Cubensis. Panaeolus and perhaps a nonactive relative of stropharia. The pans may be worth something, but I cannot guarantee anything.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: ChRnZN]
    #26705710 - 05/29/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Do any of them blue upon handling?


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: Supernova]
    #26707204 - 05/30/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

The pans are good & potent! I've always called them copes! Leave the little brown ones alone. The gray tinted ones are the good ones!
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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: nushroom]
    #26707222 - 05/30/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I Agree, There Are Some Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens In There, But I'd Like To See Pictures Of The Bluish Bruising Reaction To Confirm.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MpSeph]
    #26707294 - 05/30/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Leave the brown mushrooms alone from the first two photos! The others are pan/copes!


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MpSeph]
    #26707300 - 05/30/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Also photo #7! Leave alone!


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MpSeph]
    #26707368 - 05/30/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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MpSeph said:
I Agree, There Are Some Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens In There, But I'd Like To See Pictures Of The Bluish Bruising Reaction To Confirm.




I agree here. I see panaeolus for sure, possibly papilionaceus, but I dont see panaeolus cyanescens in these pics. Theres 0 signs of blueing and macroscopically they dont look like p. Cyanescens I've picked or that I've seen posted in all the years I've been here.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26707388 - 05/30/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

From my opinion, the first 2 photos & the 7th are non active, but all others are. We will let some of the most knowledgeable have the final word.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26707393 - 05/30/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MentalPariah said:
Quote:

MpSeph said:
I Agree, There Are Some Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens In There, But I'd Like To See Pictures Of The Bluish Bruising Reaction To Confirm.




I agree here. I see panaeolus for sure, possibly papilionaceus, but I dont see panaeolus cyanescens in these pics. Theres 0 signs of blueing and macroscopically they dont look like p. Cyanescens I've picked or that I've seen posted in all the years I've been here.




I Found A Specimen Of Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens This Morning That I Think Resembles The Mushrooms In Pics #12, 16, & 17.
It Is Possible He Took The Pics Right After He Picked Them, & They Just Hadn't Bruised Yet.

It Is Also Possible They Are A Non Active Pan. Sp That's Why I'd Like To See Pics Of The Bruising If Any.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MpSeph]
    #26707800 - 05/30/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I agree with you and I'm not saying they absolutely 100% are not cyans, but like you I just need to see the proof. If the evidence gets provided I will absolutely change my opinion. I am not a professional so my identifications are always opinion lol


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26707880 - 05/30/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Same Here :thumbup: I Hope OP Doesn't Leave Us In Suspense :lol:


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MpSeph]
    #26710923 - 06/01/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I will be out maybe tomorrow or Wednesday to go hunting again. I will take more pictures and pictures of bruising. Thankyou all for your input sorry I ghosted for a few days.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: Saltyskibum]
    #26711021 - 06/01/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They are all nonactive Panaeolus species,  Something in the Panaeolus papillionaceus group.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: MpSeph]
    #26711875 - 06/01/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thankyou everyone for all the response on this thread! This website is awesome. Not gonna leave anyone in suspense I went out today and got more pictures uploaded right now


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: Saltyskibum]
    #26711949 - 06/01/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ok so I went out today again. I found a lot of mushrooms same as the other day. Unfortunately no cubes. But I found a lot of the Pans. Similar to the ones I originally posted. I took a lot of pictures of them growing/right after picking/and about 1 hour later to see bruising.

I also found some other musgrooms I don't believe to be active but now I'm just curious on what all growing on my land is anything edible/medicinal/active? I will post these pictures last.


Here are pics of the Pans.



































Here you can really see the red bruising does this mean they are not Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens?







So just for future reference if I find any similar to these that bruise blue instead of red that would mean they could be Panaeolus (Copelandia) Cyanescens? I looked up pictures and they are very similar.


Now here are some pics of what I think are different. So if anyone can tell me anything if these are medicinal and or edible or active? Any info would be awesome

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These do look kinda similar to the Pans. But they were much bigger and thicker stem and I didnt see any red bruising.












Ok thats all I got thankyou to all


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: Saltyskibum]
    #26711995 - 06/01/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

"pans": panaeolus papilionaceus
1: agaricus sp.
2: lepiotoid
3: agaricus sp.
4: agrocybe pediades
5: panaeolus antillarum

Panaeolus cyanescens looks near identical to panaeolus antillarum but bruise blue. Not red.
Those agaricus species might be edible.


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Re: South Texas mushrooms growing on cowpoo ID help [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #26712003 - 06/01/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I Agree With :whathesaid:


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