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Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub?
    #26705002 - 05/29/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So I know that cubensis is cubensis is cubensis and by genetics at least you should be able to grow two or more different strains of cubes from the same tub.
I have seen it done with Chitwans and Golden Teachers, PE6 and APE, B+ and Golden Teacher etc.
I was wondering if there are any bad combos for this?
Do certain types of cubes just hate each other?
Say for example if I have 1qt B+ Spawn, 1qt of Gulf Coast, and 1qt of Rustywhyte spawn I could grow all three together in the same tub with the only issue being available nutrients correct?
Or would the different cubes attempt to fight it out?
I've been thinking about this all day and thought i'd ask.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: mushhead]
    #26705009 - 05/29/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I think they will all play fine together.  Maybe get some spore viability problems if you combine those sub-cubes and regular cubes that have different spore sizes together, but I couldn't really say.  I think they'll prolly all work.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26705060 - 05/29/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well I have on time to time too much spawn than I have tubs, usually one or two quarts of this or that doesn't really matter what it is, its a cube.
What I want to start doing is throwing them all in one big tub together, this will just be for fruiting I wont be taking spores.
I'll take clones if it warrants one.
But otherwise I just don't want a bunch of little shoeboxes laying around.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: mushhead]
    #26705091 - 05/29/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I did it once and overall the tub just under performed compared to when i kept the varieties separate

I think if i remember correctly one variety performed better than the other as well


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26705098 - 05/29/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don't truly care how much I yield off them really.
I just need the use of my jars and this is the quick solution to not setting up a bunch of little boxes.
Recommended? Not ever will I to anyone. But its what I'm gonna do :mushroom2:
Perhaps I will one day make some kind of miracle where I somehow magically cross something and have something unique.
Though I wont be crossing fingers either.
Personally I want mutations


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: Enkidu]
    #26705105 - 05/29/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I've never had a problem mixing spawn from different cubes. I've gotten some pretty cool crosses that way.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #26705106 - 05/29/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

A couple months ago I accidentally mixed some PE in with another cube and the PE didn't come in until the second flush. It was really interesting to witness and made sense based on their fruiting times. The potency seemed fairly even throughout each boom though - but we all know this is hard to quantify. I say give it a shot, you made even try mixing it in sections so you can have a third be of each variety so you can see if they will all fruit on their prospective portions or if they will grow elsewhere. You can def get some quick fruits and clones/prints. As previously stated, yields haven't been shown to be amazing, but not necessarily bad from my experience either.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: FeedYourMind] * 1
    #26705126 - 05/29/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

These were the result of mixing GATZ and PE. Im pretty sure they were printable but I never did print them only grabbed a couple swabs. They had stems and cap color of GATZ but cap shape was like PE. Gatz was a cross with AA+ and they always grew all crazy like with caps that were dark in the middle fading to white towards the outside of the cap.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26705139 - 05/29/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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These were the result of mixing GATZ and PE. Im pretty sure they were printable but I never did print them only grabbed a couple swabs. They had stems and cap color of GATZ but cap shape was like PE. Gatz was a cross with AA+ and they always grew all crazy like with caps that were dark in the middle fading to white towards the outside of the cap.





That's pretty cool. Totally has that bulbous PE cap. Ty for sharing, I might have to get down on some mixes just for the hell of it.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26705142 - 05/29/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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These were the result of mixing GATZ and PE. Im pretty sure they were printable but I never did print them only grabbed a couple swabs. They had stems and cap color of GATZ but cap shape was like PE. Gatz was a cross with AA+ and they always grew all crazy like with caps that were dark in the middle fading to white towards the outside of the cap.




Now this is what I'll be looking for :mushroom2:


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: mushhead]
    #26705154 - 05/29/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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These were the result of mixing GATZ and PE. Im pretty sure they were printable but I never did print them only grabbed a couple swabs. They had stems and cap color of GATZ but cap shape was like PE. Gatz was a cross with AA+ and they always grew all crazy like with caps that were dark in the middle fading to white towards the outside of the cap.




Now this is what I'll be looking for :mushroom2:



It was intentional and took alot of work to get to that point but doesn't mean it's not possible I definitely wouldn't hesitate to mix varieties you can get pretty cool result and you can also get different varieties competing or just fruiting separately in the same tub.
Don't forget to share if you get some cool ass results.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26705179 - 05/29/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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gizmo1 said:
These were the result of mixing GATZ and PE. Im pretty sure they were printable but I never did print them only grabbed a couple swabs. They had stems and cap color of GATZ but cap shape was like PE. Gatz was a cross with AA+ and they always grew all crazy like with caps that were dark in the middle fading to white towards the outside of the cap.




Now this is what I'll be looking for :mushroom2:



It was intentional and took alot of work to get to that point but doesn't mean it's not possible I definitely wouldn't hesitate to mix varieties you can get pretty cool result and you can also get different varieties competing or just fruiting separately in the same tub.
Don't forget to share if you get some cool ass results.



Don't get me wrong now, I know that took some work, but hopefully now with the knowledge that its possible I am kinda hopeful I can bring it about by just chance.
I will be doing a rustywhyte and gulf coast tub.
I do plan on starting a thread on it just to track how they all come out.
Only posts will be pics of just how the tubs fruited.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26705223 - 05/29/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I've never had a problem mixing spawn from different cubes. I've gotten some pretty cool crosses that way.



How often would you say crosses and mutations would occur?


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: mushhead] * 1
    #26705358 - 05/29/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I've never had a problem mixing spawn from different cubes. I've gotten some pretty cool crosses that way.



How often would you say crosses and mutations would occur?



I couldn't say for sure when making the GATZ cross I used alot of different methods. I had been using multiple wedges in single jars, crossing on plates as well as mixing spawn. GATZ was GT, AA+, Tuluum, and Z strain. That particular cross was made by mixing some bacterial PE spawn and a some healthy GATZ spawn. Wasn't expecting much at all but ended up getting a tub full of weird cubes lmao. I'm not sure if the bacteria did play a roll in it at all but I've seen others post tubs where they mixed spawn and they just fruited side by side. The trick to crossing varieties this was is using parent varieties that have distinct traits if no you will never know if the cross was successful.


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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26705403 - 05/29/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Enter PEU and AA+



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Re: Growing multiple cubensis strains in one tub? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26705468 - 05/29/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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