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King oyster shoebox
    #26701969 - 05/28/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so I’ve been growing actives for a little while and this is my first run with kings.

Dropped agar to a quart of wbs, then mixed that into a coir/hardwood pellet mixture.

This is about three days in


Does it look normal so far?? And right now I’ve got the fae restricted, should I open it up or let it consolidate for a while?

How long til pins normally??


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26704210 - 05/29/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Myc looks strange but could be cause it's on coir, I wouldn't worry yet.

I would probably let it consolidate more, then a cold shock always gets kings to pin.  I think they usually NEED one but I can't remember for sure, it's been a while...


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26708809 - 05/31/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have pretty much the same expermiment running at the moment! Was inspired by this post on reddit, and spawned to coir/verm mix 6 days ago, but I have some more jars of king oyster spawn and might give a coir/hardwood pellets mix a try.

After 6 days I my pretty cool closet, my boxes look just as yours on the surface, and some knobs have built up at the sides of the tub - i'll post a pic later if you like. So it looks like either both of us grow the same contam, or we're on the right track.

I've grown kings in sterillized bags once -  here's my Grow Log, so I'm no pro, but remember they definitely need a cold shock and also seem to benefit from some sort of casing. In my first experiment I tried with coir/verm and verm only and didn't notice a real difference.
When I opened and cased the bags there was already a thick layer of mycelium mass on the surface, so for now I will wait at least one more week for the myc to further consolidate. I've also read that scratching this layer slightly with a fork before casing and the cold shock further promotes fruiting.
Go check the link to a fruiting thread I mentioned i my grow log for more infos!

Good luck, man! Might the mushroom goddess be with us! Would be nice if we would keep this thread alive for some exchange! :smile:


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26709000 - 05/31/20 11:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Right on!

I’ll add a new pic soon, the myc is gettin thicker and climbing the walls now.

My plan at the moment is to give it another day or so to consolidate then put it in the fridge for two days. After that I’m going to put the shoebox inside dubbed sweater boxes with frozen water bottles or something in them.

I’m hoping the fridge will initiate pinning and the little dub chamber will stay cold enough to continue.

I gotta say I’m skeptical about scratching it though.

Here’s a pic of right now



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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26709493 - 05/31/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Be careful with putting them in the fridge too long - not shure if that might be too cold. For where I'm living, I'll put them just outside over night.

Here's the growing condtions for king oysters:

Phase 1: Mycelium growth
Temperature: 24°C
Humidity: 90 - 95%
Duration: 12 - 16 days
CO2: 5,000 - 20,000 ppm
Fresh air exchange: 1 per hour
Light: n/a

Phase 2: Primordia formation / Fruiting initiation
Temperature: 10 - 15°C
Humidity: 95 - 100%
Duration: 4 - 5 days
CO2: <1,000 ppm
Fresh air exchange: 4 - 8 per hour
Light: 500 - 1,000 lux

Phase 3: Fruiting and harvest
Temperature: 15 - 21°C
Humidity: 85 - 90%
Duration: 4 - 8 days
CO2: <1,000 ppm
Fresh air exchange: 4 - 5 per hour
Light: 500 - 1,000 lux
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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26709727 - 05/31/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This link from your grow log was one of the best things I’ve found.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17268641/fpart/1/vc/1

Halfway through they start putting six to eight bags packed in a tub together then casing them together into one surface, and the fruits were higher quality and yield doubled on average.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26709758 - 05/31/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The multi-block casing method is kinda cool, it makes all the bags act as a single substrate so you can get really huge mushrooms, although a lot fewer of them.  I remember that thread from back then, I wish more of those folks still frequented here...


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26709767 - 05/31/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I also came across a few people saying they fruited in the 70s and 80s no problem which gives me hope.

Maybe I’ll leave it in the fridge for 5-6 hours at a time if it doesn’t start pinning on its own. I’m not sure but I think the fridge is probably 40ish.


The cool thing about casing them was they got two or three solid flushes instead of just one from an uncased bag. I was surprised at the difference.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26709894 - 05/31/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Those Stamets' numbers are an ok guideline, but don't place too much faith in them...  Overnight in the fridge is nothing to worry about, just do a whole night and you'll be fine.  I wouldn't worry about 70's for fruiting either.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26710318 - 06/01/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

kinda looks like mold to me.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26710415 - 06/01/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So here are my tubs - seems as if the small shoebox is already forming some pins (at least the little "side-blob" definitely has a mushrrom shape).
What you see here are the surfaces of the substrate (the one frome the large tub was taken through the lid because I don't want to open it yet) and a closeup of the "side blobs" that began to form all over the small shoebox.

I'm thinking about casing the small box later today, with an extra coir/verm layer - what do you think?



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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26710429 - 06/01/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looking good :thumbup:

I know people sometimes case these and I don't think it hurts, but what's your reason?


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26710599 - 06/01/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Better surface conditions for fruiting?
Prevent the surface from drying out?
Avoid more side pinning?
And to make it as maintainance-free as possible, because I often have to leave home for 48+ hrs...


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26710700 - 06/01/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Awesome man I’m about to case mine and give it air. I use grocery bags for liners with shoeboxes and never trimmed this one down which restricts ge enough to keep cubes in spawn run which I normal only do with PE.

Hopefully soon as I cut it off and jack the fae up I’ll get some pins too.


The myc seems to look totally different and way thicker in the middle where it’s wetter and has the least fae.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26710817 - 06/01/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Better surface conditions for fruiting?
Prevent the surface from drying out?
Avoid more side pinning?
And to make it as maintainance-free as possible, because I often have to leave home for 48+ hrs...




Seems like you could accomplish all that by just leaving the lid on, but I'm not arguing that you do so, they'll do great either way you choose :thumbup:


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26711006 - 06/01/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm... good point... but what about FAE then?
I was thinking about putting the lid upside down, when I have to leave... and thus need a casing layer. (?)

Would you suggest to not case them and keep the lid closed instead? What's your take on achieving FAE then?


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26711048 - 06/01/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Kings are one species you don't have to worry too much about FAE.  Most of the time when they are commercially grown, they restrict the FAE on purpose to get the smaller caps and massive stems.

Just depends on the stage they're at when you're leaving - you don't want NO air, but you can get by on very little.  I'd probably do polyfill holes, cube-monotub style, but in your case since they're not already cut, a casing layer may be the safer choice.  FAE isn't a worry like I said, but you do NOT want that thing to get dry at all when you're gone!  So I don't wanna mess you up and tell you not to case it, and then it dries out...


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26711051 - 06/01/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Plus in that link I posted earlier later flushes were insanely better with casing.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26712226 - 06/01/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Inthepit]
    #26714231 - 06/02/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



So these are my two oyster tubs today. I just scratched the small one which shows thicker groth on the surface slightly with a fork and then cased it with a approx. 60%verm/40%coir mix and put it outside in the shed for the next two nights & days. We have around 10°C minimum at night and around 18-20°C during the day, so that should be ideal.

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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26714236 - 06/02/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I massively increased fae yesterday and cased mine pretty lightly with 5050 this morning.

I’ll give it til the weekend and if I don’t see any changes figure out a way to keep it cooler til it pins.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26716639 - 06/03/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Really interesting tubs AKA. I just ordered some king LI and am planning to do these in monotubs, so will following this thread!


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: MrMong]
    #26728611 - 06/08/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So far nothing’s happening. It’s only been 13 days since I spawned though so I’m not sure if this is normal.

The myc hasn’t grown into the casing at all, I keep expecting pins each morning.

I’ve been keeping the temp in the 70s, I want to put it in the fridge to see if that helps but I also really want to know if it’ll pin as is.

I’ll probably wait another week or so before cold shocking it. Seems like that should be plenty of time if it was gonna pin without it.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26728766 - 06/08/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

G/L :thumbup:

I'm guessing it's gonna take a cold shock.  Will be interesting to see if it pins without one though.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26731598 - 06/09/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

When I came home last weekend, the small tub that I cased 5 days before and left outside in the shed looked as if first small pins are showing at the surface. There are also some sidepins visible - I hope they don't develop better than those on top...



And the large tub that was spawned at the same day as the samll one looked like that:



I cased it on sunday evening and put it in the shed for this week.

All other tubs are colonizing well, but until sunday evening the mycelium on the surface showed no thickening of the mycelium and was still whispy, but very even.

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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26731606 - 06/09/20 02:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice!

I think I’m gonna need to drop my temps, mines been cased over a week I think.

I’m glad you posted cuz I’m not sure what exactly I’m looking for since it’s my first one.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26799765 - 07/02/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:rolleyes: Did it fruit?


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: marvins]
    #26799798 - 07/02/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ehhh. Lol. Sorta.

After a few days in the fridge it started making these blob things so I took it out but it stopped again after a couple days. I’ll post a pic in a little.

I literally just split a quart of spawn in half into two jars, cased it with coir, let it colonize and put them in the fridge this morning. Gonna see if being cold the whole time helps.

I’m not even positive it’s king oyster since it’s never been fruited.

This is how it looked when I took it out of the fridge, it got way bigger but then stopped.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26799839 - 07/02/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

is it just me or does it look really dry?


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26799845 - 07/02/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It could’ve been I eased up on mist while it was in the fridge since there’s no fae.

That was like a week and a half ago though.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26799857 - 07/02/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it's hard to tell for sure but I think those were pins.  May have dried up.  You can always bury it and get a surprise in the fall!  Summer is a really bad time to try and fruit kings, at least for me in my area... nearly impossible to get it cold enough.  In the winter I just set the bags on the floor by our sliding glass door and they're full of pins in a couple days.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26799862 - 07/02/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I wish I could throw stuff outside and have it fruit.

It’s 108 with 5% humidity right now.


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26799919 - 07/02/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yikes no wonder you're having trouble!


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Forrester]
    #26800629 - 07/03/20 02:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

yeah. oysters like 50-60 for pin formation and 55-65 for fruiting


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: A.k.a]
    #26800823 - 07/03/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Ehhh. Lol. Sorta.

After a few days in the fridge it started making these blob things so I took it out but it stopped again after a couple days. I’ll post a pic in a little.

I literally just split a quart of spawn in half into two jars, cased it with coir, let it colonize and put them in the fridge this morning.



I tried them in the fridge for 3 nights, nothing. And now tossed.
Sooo, I'm on T4 and scored Aspen chips from the pet store, cheap too!
shavings 2:1 to coir dry weight, even though it's 85F here.
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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Inthepit]
    #26801381 - 07/03/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Im gratefull i live in 75% humidity and the sea regulate the temps, its really not that cold now in winter and summers dont get high either.

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    #26832095 - 07/19/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi guys!

My King Oyster Shoeboxes finally produced some pretty good fruits and I hope there are some more coming! But I've had some difficult times trying to get these to fruit.

As I wrote, I cased them after full colonization and then put them outside in the shed for cold shocking. It had about 10 - 14°C during the night back then. After one week in the shed I put the best looking tubs, which where showing some small pins at the time, back inside the greenhouse in my room. I left two tubs in the shed, which looked a bit suspicius - one of them was not cased at all, because it had a metabolite eruption in the middle of the tub that formed a crater-like hole and I was afraid I wouldn't recognize if its contaminating if i cased it.

After about 2 weeks of misting and fannig the tubs in my indoor-greenhouse nothing really developed - quite the oppisite happened: the pins stalled and some where even absorbed by the mycelium again.
But then I took a look at the pretty much neglected tubs in the shed and saw that they have developed much better than those inside and had pins all over the surface. So I took all tubs back in the shed again about two weeks ago. The first week I kept them closed and soon pins showed up and looked pretty promising again!

The last week I misted the tubs slightly two times a day. I kept them closed during the day to prevent them from drying out and open during the night so that they could get more fresh air. I live in central europe and the temperatures here were pretty cold for this time of the year. We've had approx. about 10°-12°C at night and around 20°-23°C during the days, with not much sun at all and occasional rainshowers at night- and daytime.

I don't think that it is due to any special "tek" that this seem to be a success, but that I was rather lucky with the temperature circumstances. The moral of the story seems to be: never give up a stalled but unconatminated grow - try to change the environment! King Oysters can be grown on nothing but coco coir/verm by pretty much any lucky noob out there - and I am a blessed one! :smile:



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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26832460 - 07/19/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Those look great, that one younger tub has some monsters forming in that cluster.

Same thing happened for me, I put the shoebox in the fridge til it pinned then moved it and it stalled out. It’s actually still sitting on a shelf hasn’t changed lol.

I took a quart of spawn and split it into jars and added coir on top. I put them in the fridge til they pinned and then started putting them in the growroom under lights during the day and back in the fridge at night.

So far so good, I think this system works for summer. Really I’m just happy to finally confirm the culture is kings.



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    #26836042 - 07/21/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That looks very promising, dude! Keep up your scedule and I'm shure they will grow further!

My tubs are exploding at the moment - I'm sooooo f***in thankful and happy, I'm out of words!!
Also the bags I did on supplemented sawdust & woodchips as a control grow are doing excellent!
This is King Oyster's paradise!



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    #26836052 - 07/21/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nice!

Did you do some just coir too??

Which are which in the pictures?

Some of those look crazy, I’ve never seen them with the skinny stem and bigger caps. They almost look like regular mushrooms lol.

Mine are starting to get bigger and get some color in the caps now.


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    #26836181 - 07/21/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Current status. The light seemed to make a huge difference with the cap formation.



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    #26836245 - 07/21/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The oval shaped "containers" are the bags with sterilized sawdust, woodchips & rye bran (Pics 8 & 9), all others (tubs & the jar) are coco coir & vermiculite (don't ask me about exact ratios -  i just tried my best to reach field capacity) with a little bit of gypsum added.


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    #26836424 - 07/21/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Wow there’s a huge difference, the sawdust makes them fill out way nicer.


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    #26837792 - 07/22/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Sure they are -  but you have to take into account that they contain more nutrients, but also need more ressources to make.
The two sawdust-blocks are from the same culture and where merely meant to be a control-grow to see if the self-cloned culture is viable at all.

For me the 2 main advantages with this tek are that you can skip the whole substrate-sterilization-processes, which in my case means to fire the stove for 4hrs on medium-high for every 2 bags, because thats all  that fits into my pressure cooker.
And coco coir is much cheaper than sawdust/woodchips/bran. All my 6 tubs were spawned with just one brick of coir (+ vermiculite), each one easily containing the substrate volume of a standard grow bag.
Today I harvested 5 of my 6 tubs (4 "normal" ones and the small one)and got 1245 grams out of it. I really don't think that the bags can catch up on that in terms of practicability vs. yield.

I'll see how the remaining pins and subsequent flushes develop, but as for now I think I will stay with the coir/verm-tek for King Oysters.

Oh - and last but not least tubs are reusable...


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    #26837809 - 07/22/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What I'm not sure yet is how a second flush will be induced best?

I thought about trying different "teks" for the second flush to learn:

1) do nothing and just give them one or two more intense misting, but otherwise keep on with my misting & fae scedule (slightly mist in the mornings and evenings; keeping the tubs closed during the day and open during the night)
2) dunking the substrate in water for a couple of hours, drain and go on as before
3) letting it sit for a couple of days and then try to flip the whole substrate block, like this guy suggests for doing it with bags: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqHkWCQHVA4
4) scraping the top and apply a fresh fine casing layer (this time i would go with just moist vermiculite)

What are your opinions on that?

The remaining question I'm not quite sure about is how I should deal with the undeveloped pins of the first flush?
a) Leave them as they are?
b) Trying to pull as much of them out as possible?
c) Scraping the surface and hope that they will get reabsorbed by the mycelium?

What do you think will be the best way to minimize the risk of contamination?


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Parasoul]
    #26837952 - 07/22/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Have you guys seen this major oyster grower in Japan?
Did you see how they culled the pins in the jars, leaving winner kings.



I'm getting close to spawning KO to shoeboxes, 2-3 days mebbe...


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Re: King oyster shoebox [Re: Inthepit]
    #26838202 - 07/22/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

For hwfp you don’t have to sterilize them.  I did mine just the same as coir, pouring boiling water into a bucket. A coir sawdust blend is what I did for my shoebox and it colonized super quick like a few days.


I’ve seen people talk about culling pins but haven’t looked into yet. Now that I’m seeing how they work it looks like a good idea. So many pins. And the one pin I have on it’s own is five times bigger than the rest.


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    #26838261 - 07/22/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yea - hwfp/coir mix sounds good! I might give this a try for the next king oyster monotub.

But as soon as a nutrient supplement (in my case rye bran) comes into play, i think steriziation is needed to avoid contamination.


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    #26838648 - 07/22/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you guys seen this major oyster grower in Japan?
Did you see how they culled the pins in the jars, leaving winner kings.





Good advice - I highly recommend pruning for kings as well, they pin too much, if you cut all but a few, they grow much larger :thumbup:


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    #26872733 - 08/10/20 05:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok so after starting fruiting and then leaving it sitting at room temp for a really long time with nothing happening I put it back in the fridge for a few days then started taking it out during the day to put under lights. The caps came out of nowhere once it got light. Literally overnight, the cap was a tiny pin point then the next day huge.



I’m pretty surprised it’s fruiting decently after so long. I scraped up the surface a few days ago too.

Now to start a new much healthier one.


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    #26876437 - 08/12/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ya! :congrats:


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    #26878270 - 08/13/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well this ended up going so much better than I expected. Actually filled out decently I thought it was gonna be weird shaped.



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    #26878836 - 08/13/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You would be much happier with the results if you grew them on blocks in bags. Good job getting them to fruit but that is pretty poor performance for kings.


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    #26878849 - 08/13/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It's pretty normal for kings to have shitty yields unless you supplement the shit out of them.  I don't think you'll get a lot better results from bags unless you do that.  Like up to 40% bran is common.


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    #26878855 - 08/13/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

That's precisely what I'm saying. When I say grow in bags I mean growing in properly prepared substrate.


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    #26878861 - 08/13/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Gotcha!  Yeah their yields are crap for sure.


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    #26878866 - 08/13/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I recommend straight hwfp bags for noobs who aren't quite comfortable with grain prep or sterilization, but ak isn't a noob. He's definitely capable of pulling off some decent grows. Not that I'm shitting on your shoebox ak :thumbup:
Just much more enjoyable to get the goods.


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    #26878877 - 08/13/20 04:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Don't tell anyone I said, but if you have a decent culture and spawn high enough you can get away with supplementing but not sterilizing.  Shhhh!  :lol:

(NOT recommended of course, but sometimes I'm lazy)


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    #26878898 - 08/13/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

oh shit, I'll definitely keep that one to myself ; )


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