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SoupyGeorge
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Damn, times are different. We've been lucky enough to have everything (almost) back open here. the malls, theaters, and trampoline parks are still closed but life is almost back to normal.
-------------------- Mellow heads will prevail. You look like everyone else because the T.V. tells you to. I look like everyone else so that i don't stand out to the man. We are not the same.
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Hurrakrayne


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They're not shut down from covid they are permanently gone. Not very many small businesses make it where I'm from. Not since Walmart came in and took everything over and there is a city 20 minutes west of me. I just didn't feel like driving out there
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Hurrakrayne


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24 hours after the shake and they're starting to recover!
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Hurrakrayne


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Ok so question that I'm sure I know the answer to. Does this jar look contammed? I see a few black spots so I'm assuming yes?

And these are the rest of the jars. Do they look fine?
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Hurrakrayne


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My coir will be here today and I wanna spawn them as soon as they're ready. That is if they're not contammed.
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Hurrakrayne


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Another question I forgot to ask.. should I shake these one more time? They recovered 24 hours after my first shake and that was 4 days ago.
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Hurrakrayne


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Putting them into coir tonight but I think they're all contammed. They look ok to me but they seem like they've stalled. Also there's moisture pooling in some spots on a few of the jars. But there is good rhizomorphic growth on most of them as well so I'm not sure. Guess I'll find out in about a week or 2.
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SoupyGeorge
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Hurrakrayne said: Putting them into coir tonight but I think they're all contammed. They look ok to me but they seem like they've stalled. Also there's moisture pooling in some spots on a few of the jars. But there is good rhizomorphic growth on most of them as well so I'm not sure. Guess I'll find out in about a week or 2.
Firstly the one to the far left looks great and ready.
Quite a few people will tell you not to spawn contaminated jars no matter the amount be it barely contamed or fully contamed. I've read several reasons not to and all have substance.
- Possible contamination to entire work area effecting future grows.
- Waste of time due to yield/effort put into the grow.
- Spawning a subpar jar instead of having the patience and discipline to do it correctly or not do it at all.
- I'm sure there are a few I'm missing and someone will fill them in.
Now, with all of that being said. I spawned a contaminated jar in a shoebox and kept it outside away from my workspace. The contaminated jar had mycelium growth throughout but it was not robust and there was a green hue covering the entire jar. It smelled the exact same as a health colonized jar (that mushroom smell), but it was indeed clearly contaminated. I spawned it at the same time as 2 other fully healthy jars in the same substrate ratio. This shoebox colonized slower, the mycelium on top of the substrate is not as prevalent or robust. I can see a yellow tinge here and there on the mycelium, yet there are pins. It started pinning about 2 days after the two healthy shoeboxes and there aren't near as many pins from what I can tell, but none the less the pins do exist. So I suppose it is what standard you want to hold your grows to. A slightly contaminated jar may do absolutely nothing but bad things, and it may produce a little payback for your hard work. I grew my contaminated jar out for scientific reasons. I am a hands on visual learner so I always want to find out the why for myself. I spawned the jar to see the outcome of a clearly contaminated jar so that I could recognize a contaminated tub later in life if one slips past me. As of now I find it a waste of time energy and resources to spawn a contaminated jar. I leave you with that and hopefully the pros comment with actual knowledge.
P.S. My substrate was all coir like yours, no additives.
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Hurrakrayne


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Yeah I was thinking the same about that one and 2 others. I'm the same way as you. I wanna see things for myself as visual proof of what to do or not to do so I know for the future. Not that I don't trust what anyone on here is saying it's just learning experience for me. I'm gonna spawn them all and see what happens. Doing shoeboxes and gonna keep them away from eachother in case of contamination so good ones don't get ruined. If they do contam I'm sure it is from having the oats to wet.
I appreciate your feedback brother.
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You might have to do what i do and keep starting over until we get it..
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SoupyGeorge
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Hurrakrayne said: Yeah I was thinking the same about that one and 2 others. I'm the same way as you. I wanna see things for myself as visual proof of what to do or not to do so I know for the future. Not that I don't trust what anyone on here is saying it's just learning experience for me. I'm gonna spawn them all and see what happens. Doing shoeboxes and gonna keep them away from eachother in case of contamination so good ones don't get ruined. If they do contam I'm sure it is from having the oats to wet.
I appreciate your feedback brother.
Not a problem. I recommend a set and forget shoebox such as bod's or shaper's if you haven't decided on a tek to use yet. I used Shaper's SFF, I gotta say it couldn't be any easier than that tek.
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Hurrakrayne


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Idk why tek I was gonna use yet. I've seen the most used ratio is 1:1 so was gonna go with that. I'll check that tek it though for sure. Bods teks have been my go to go agar and grain so will probably use that one. I have 10 shoeboxes. Debating on doing 1 monotub but don't wanna ruin that much if it's bad so I'll probably wait until I perfect my technique then dive into something bigger.
I also gotta learn to make spore prints and liquid cultures.
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Hurrakrayne


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Yeah I'm gonna start another batch next week. I gotta get more spores. Might go with a different grain as well. Was thinking popcorn or WBS and maybe even rye. Not sure on that yet though.
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Hurrakrayne


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I just read through shapers SFF tek. Definitely gonna use that one as well for half and see which one produces better.
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SoupyGeorge
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Hurrakrayne said: I just read through shapers SFF tek. Definitely gonna use that one as well for half and see which one produces better.
After I read you're doing 10 boxes I was gonna say shapers because you can stack them. You can't stack bods.
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Hurrakrayne


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Got them all boxed up. When I opened the jars I got punched in the face with a nice fresh mushroom smell and got really excited lol. Will post again when I see some progress!!
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Hurrakrayne


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One day later and they're starting to recover nicely. Best pic I could get because I don't want to open them yet.
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Hurrakrayne


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This is where we're at today showing some nice progress. The moisture in the sides shouldn't be an issue correct? I haven't misted that's just from whatever magic is happening inside.
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SoupyGeorge
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It looks perfect, don't try to be smarter than the box. Just leave the lid on except for peaking. It'll work it's magic as you say lol.
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Hurrakrayne


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Thanks. I overthink too much lol. That's the only time I took the kid off. I'm not gonna do that again until I need to. Had a nice potent mushroom smell to it. I'm pumped!
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