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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26732945 - 06/09/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

RCMP can be pretty chill. Never had a problem before. Unlike city or town police


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26732947 - 06/09/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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SO you've been discriminated against and your dad too by racist Royal Canadian Mounted Police?


I can understand the hate.




OPP is not RCMP -- OPP does not exist in my current home area, but the RCMP are everywhere
OPP was discriminatory; obviously pulled us over because we looked poor and thus like an easy target
plus they tailed us before flashing the lights, so they prolly punched in the license plate and saw that Dad still had a mushroom trafficking offense on his record

but Dad has been travelling back and forth through Ontario for years now
so he was fully familiar with the fact that paying extra to license his camper as a home meant the cops can't search it without a warrant once he is parked at the side of the road

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But do you know how many lives they have saved?




far less than firefighters, health workers, and prolly even teachers in instances of suicide

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Saying " fuck the police" makes you look like an ignorant child, like koods.




Nah

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ALTHOUGH! You are MUCH more level headed, brilliant, and well rounded than him by at least 100x.




omfg, definitely nah
:rofl:

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In fact I think you can defend and debate a subject about that many more times than him




my position is marginally more moderate than his is all
he wants the police torn down and started over
personally want the systems overhauled, both in the US and here

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We should all pray for that poor bastard. He's done fried up his brain and is on here trying to stir up shit and if anyone says that he " stepped down" as moderator, that is wrong. He was removed.




if he was removed he likely would not have the incredibly long leash the moderator staff are giving him
think some people on staff may want him back

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ANYWAYS. I dislike your opinion of "fuck the police" but I do not agree:themoreyouknow:




that is fine, but fuck 'em
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26732949 - 06/09/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I can't even respond because they are so engrossed in like two pages of inter-quotes.

:shotsfired:



But I will say to get back on subject that the police do need to be reformed,


but anyone who says " fuck the police" and actually means it


is going to end up on channel 5 action news.



:mel:




And why would someone end up on the news for engaging in protected speech?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26732950 - 06/09/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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RCMP can be pretty chill. Never had a problem before. Unlike city or town police



According to him they will harrass, be racist, and do stuff they aren't supposed to do.
:orly:

SO.


Sounds like me when I say American police, although some are messed up, there are tons of good ones.





Anyone who says " fuck the police" is going to get "fucked by the police"


Simple enough.:themoreyouknow:


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow] * 3
    #26732954 - 06/09/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Im through with you.  Gaslight somebody else, sir.




Why are you such a rude lady?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26732957 - 06/09/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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RCMP can be pretty chill. Never had a problem before. Unlike city or town police



According to him they will harrass, be racist, and do stuff they aren't supposed to do.
:orly:




not only have you misread my post that said the OPP pulled us over

you have also misgendered me. again. after the last time you did so you made a big deal over how you went back and ninja editted it out.

try not to  make your third strike too quick, am really empowered by all the pot in my celebratory bong tokes


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery] * 2
    #26732963 - 06/09/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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SonicTitan said:
RCMP can be pretty chill. Never had a problem before. Unlike city or town police



According to him they will harrass, be racist, and do stuff they aren't supposed to do.
:orly:

SO.


Sounds like me when I say American police, although some are messed up, there are tons of good ones.





Anyone who says " fuck the police" is going to get "fucked by the police"


Simple enough.:themoreyouknow:




Listen to you. Every American has the right to say “fuck the police.” It is speech protected by the first ammendement. It is a right the government is prohibited from punishing. Getting fucked by the police for protected speech is exactly what the constitution prohibits. If it is done with violence it is a criminal violation of civil rights.

Just curious if you think it’s the good cops that will be doing the fucking you up.


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Edited by koods (06/09/20 11:13 PM)


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika] * 2
    #26732972 - 06/09/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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not only have you misread my post that said the OPP pulled us over

you have also misgendered me. again. after the last time you did so you made a big deal over how you went back and ninja editted it out.

try not to  make your third strike too quick, am really empowered by all the pot in my celebratory bong tokes




Forgive and excuse my belligerence human( I mean it)


I do not consider myself a sex . Do you?  but don't let that discount the discussion that your blatant statement of "fuck the police" might be a slight on the good hardworking American and Canadian police who do good things for people, regardless of race.


I think it's time for the highly banned pussy riot to make a song here.








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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26732993 - 06/09/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Forgive and excuse my belligerence human( I mean it)


I do not consider myself a sex . Do you? 




per the feature you use to not consider yourself a sex and label yourself a teapot
my identifier is made available through the account system

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but don't let that discount the discussion that your blatant statement of "fuck the police" might be a slight on the good hardworking American and Canadian police who do good things for people, regardless of race.




My cousin is about as "good cop" as they come
has been involved in turning things around in his department
and will say "fuck the police" right alongside me, and mean it

because when he takes off the uniform
he just goes back to being visibly First Nations, "despite only" being half
and the other precincts in the city will discriminate against him

tho he also accepts that it is my opinion that his corruption into a bad cop is a ticking time bomb
even tho he disagrees
and it is my hope he keeps up proving me wrong

also,
he is big on "fuck airport security"
because they always pull him for a random check
and then he shows them his badge and they get all apologetic
:rofl:

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I think it's time for the highly banned pussy riot to make a song here.











:cheers:


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26733009 - 06/09/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So,  you actually have friends and family in the police, unlike me.


And those people say "fuck the police" right along side you?


Can you imagine what that implies or is implicating?

It means they hate their profession .



Around here,  the police are there for public safety. Have you even considered what would happen if you called the police and no one showed up, EVER?


You are walking a thin wire there.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26733016 - 06/09/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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My cousin is about as "good cop" as they come
has been involved in turning things around in his department
and will say "fuck the police" right alongside me, and mean it

because when he takes off the uniform
he just goes back to being visibly First Nations, "despite only" being half
and the other precincts in the city will discriminate against him

tho he also accepts that it is my opinion that his corruption into a bad cop is a ticking time bomb
even tho he disagrees
and it is my hope he keeps up proving me wrong







Also, you should quit talking about someone else especially when police are involved.
Does he know you're posting about him?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery] * 2
    #26733018 - 06/09/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The police are a necessary evil.  Anyone who thinks real lasting & significant change can happen overnight in a system is beyond delusional.  It will only occur incrementally & over years and years if not decades and decades of time.  If you force it, it will likely just appear to be changed I the surface, driving the darker elements underground, only to reappear and pop its ugly head up at various times.

I don’t like having them around anymore than the next guy - but by sheer presence or by actual act they deter and stop a lot of horrible and awful shit from happening.  Yeah, they do their own share of horrible shit too - that’s why it’s a necessary evil.

Or are you all innocent little saints who need no baby sitter with a gun?

Give it time people.  If protests keep going strong enough for the politicians & business leaders to get behind the movement (bc they want to be seen in the best light / optics - or bc they care - whatever it is) and it carries on without slackening for a full year or two...then I could see something good coming out of it.  But only if the protesters can remain civil in the face of evil...if they fight fire with Fire this will take forever or they will lose themselves outright and it will turn into a true shitshow beyond imagining.

Light a fire under politicians asses, anything else is worthless.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26733019 - 06/09/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

no fiery you are taking it to the extreme for the sake of your argument. No one is saying we should get rid of all cops, just we need to give them less money and have less of them.

stop giving them military gear, stop the war on drugs, have accountability.

Id rather have no cops than cops that dont have any accountability.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: sui]
    #26733022 - 06/09/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Id rather have no cops than cops that dont have any accountability.




Wow, you mean like the cops being charged with murder?


Cops are being held accountable( finally)


Accountability is here and now, and the mass population trying to DEMONIZE the police force is going to lead to MASSIVE crime wave.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26733023 - 06/09/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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sui said:

Id rather have no cops than cops that dont have any accountability.




Wow, you mean like the cops being charged with murder?


Cops are being held accountable( finally)


Accountability is here and now, and the mass population trying to DEMONIZE the police force is going to lead to MASSIVE crime wave.




no i think the repeated police brutality is doing that.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery] * 1
    #26733024 - 06/09/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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sui said:

Id rather have no cops than cops that dont have any accountability.




Wow, you mean like the cops being charged with murder?


Cops are being held accountable( finally)


Accountability is here and now, and the mass population trying to DEMONIZE the police force is going to lead to MASSIVE crime wave.





And then the public are going to cry " why are we being robbed, raped, murdered and extorted. WHERE ARE THE POLICE? I called 911 and no one responded.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: sui]
    #26733028 - 06/09/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

they demonized themselves by acting like they are at the protests.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26733029 - 06/09/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So,  you actually have friends and family in the police, unlike me.


And those people say "fuck the police" right along side you?




mhm

before he got into policing we used to play NES together, he is like 10 years older than me

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Can you imagine what that implies or is implicating?




a recognition that the policing system is broken
and that "fuck the police" refers to all of that
not to the occasional good cop who gets to knowingly be thrust into the limelight when people want to defend the mess that the system is

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It means they hate their profession .




would hate my profession too
if knowing my changes were so small compared to a problem so large
but he keeps at it because he believes he is working towards the right thing
and damned if my point is going to be any more than poking fun at him when he can handle it and giving him support when he feels like it is all bearing down on him

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Around here,  the police are there for public safety. Have you even considered what would happen if you called the police and no one showed up, EVER?




yeah, would have to fend for myself
just like an apocalyspe scenario where everyone is squabbling over resources
and the former cops have the biggest stockpile of weapons

have never called the police, ever
the only time the RCMP came to help me with anything was when the suicide hotline sent them to my house
and even then, it was the empowerment of them having better training and less of an antagonizing view of citizens that even kept me safe from them
let alone facilitating actual assistance

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You are walking a thin wire there.




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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26733031 - 06/09/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Fiery said:
Quote:

Fiery said:
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sui said:

Id rather have no cops than cops that dont have any accountability.




Wow, you mean like the cops being charged with murder?


Cops are being held accountable( finally)


Accountability is here and now, and the mass population trying to DEMONIZE the police force is going to lead to MASSIVE crime wave.





And then the public are going to cry " why are we being robbed, raped, murdered and extorted. WHERE ARE THE POLICE? I called 911 and no one responded.




Those are the things they should respond too.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Fiery]
    #26733033 - 06/09/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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And then the public are going to cry " why are we being robbed, raped, murdered and extorted. WHERE ARE THE POLICE? I called 911 and no one responded.





I say this again:mel:


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