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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26731628 - 06/09/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: Yeah, I'm the one who's lost it 
Trump got millions like that
We still Got big trouble
Nah, this is one of your boys, he just recently got red-pilled or something.
This guy used to be very liberal(probably still is), you red-pilled your own side.
Keep it up. You do not see this happening in the opposite direction on the political spectrum.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
#26731652 - 06/09/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: You do not see this happening in the opposite direction on the political spectrum.
What about the former alt-righters that credit Contrapoints as deradicalizing them?
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"Minneapolis Police Conduct Drive by Pepper Spraying on Peaceful Protesters"
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26731657 - 06/09/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: Yeah, I'm the one who's lost it 
Trump got millions like that
We still Got big trouble
Nah, this is one of your boys, he just recently got red-pilled or something.
This guy used to be very liberal(probably still is), you red-pilled your own side.
Keep it up. You do not see this happening in the opposite direction on the political spectrum.
we're fucked if you guys can't figure out who the "us" and "them" refer too. you're aiming at the wrong people
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: MadMuncher]
#26731659 - 06/09/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re:volt Now [Re: qman]
#26731661 - 06/09/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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qman said: "Minneapolis Police Conduct Drive by Pepper Spraying on Peaceful Protesters"
gdi was going to say "hey, I remember posting a tweet with that video in polidiscuss" but, no, it was a totally different video of different cops doing the same asshole behaviour -_- further evidence that these practices are reinforced and/or encouraged among the police
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GA doing its thing and raping democracy
https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1270350693019398152?s=20
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That 1st vid shows a lot of younger looking people and mixed races! YAY!
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if you are going to politically assisinate someone do Biden, not Chump, that's the only way to make sure we don't get 4 more years of Chump. everything is fake. we could really use Bernie. he would win
we're not getting a real election this year anyway, though
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Re:volt Now [Re: koods]
#26731834 - 06/09/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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beautiful cut
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26731893 - 06/09/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow. That’s some propaganda.
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lowbrow said: You do not see this happening in the opposite direction on the political spectrum.
What about the former alt-righters that credit Contrapoints as deradicalizing them?
This one I got to see. Citations please.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
#26731917 - 06/09/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: You do not see this happening in the opposite direction on the political spectrum.
What about the former alt-righters that credit Contrapoints as deradicalizing them?
This one I got to see. Citations please.
Go visit her channel, read the comments discredit them as you already intend to and continue on without paying attention to her content because you are busy judging her as a person rather than on the merits of her ideas
could link you to the various news stories published glorifying her for having done it but do not think it is a cause for glorification simply recognize that your narrow point of view apparently did not even account for the possibility of such
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26732065 - 06/09/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So you can’t show me one account of what I asked? Are you making this up?
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
#26732152 - 06/09/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: So you can’t show me one account of what I asked? Are you making this up?
Honestly, was most surprised last year to see this one as it was on the Canadian national news, and am pretty sure the CBC radio clips are from stuff that airs on actual radio coverage as well so old farmers in shitty diners in the backwoods of the least populated provinces were listenning to how a nice trans lady helped pull him out

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In particular, Cain identified Wynn, better known on YouTube as the host of ContraPoints, as someone who felt empathetic to where he'd ended up.
"She didn't look at me as a monster. She explained that I had fallen into these beliefs because of certain preconditions in my life and that that was very understandable but that that was wrong," Cain told Tapestry.
By contrast, Cain said that when he talked to people in his life about his beliefs, he was rarely met with patience or understanding.
"They would call me a racist monster, and that would be the end of the conversation."
Wynn, on ContraPoints, does in-depth analysis of how right-wing reactionary groups like the alt-right persuade people to join their cause.
She does similar videos on incels — a subculture of men who believe they are doomed to celibacy because of their looks. Self-described incels have been responsible for multiple mass killings, including the 2018 Toronto van attack.
To make arguments against these points of view, Wynn said she tries to truly understand them so that she doesn't create a straw-man version of their worldview. She said that understanding can require empathy, so that you can see not just the stated reasons behind a worldview, but the emotional tenets that underpin it.
"I think that when you're making an argument, empathizing with the person you're arguing with is never bad because it's good to be able to understand them, and empathy is a kind of understanding," Wynn said.
When it came to incels, Wynn noted that she saw the self-loathing underpinning a lot of the misogyny the group perpetuates.
"What I see when I look at those [incel] forums is this intense pain and this cry for a recognition of that pain," Wynn said.
With her approach, Cain isn't the only person Wynn has deradicalized at a distance. She recalled being at a meet-and-greet, when a fan whispered to her that he had been a former member of the alt-right and thanked her for her videos.
Other members of alt-right and far-right communities have cited that Wynn's videos in leading them to leave their extremist ideology.
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Empathy for extremists is not a universally popular view, however, and if done poorly, it can inspire outrage. A 2017 New York Times article that attempted to showcase the lives of white nationalists was criticized for normalizing their beliefs.
Some critics have said that the defence of marginalized people are often left to the marginalized to defend — which Wynn acknowledges.
"I also do understand, you know, people who might be frustrated with like, 'Well, why do we have to have all this empathy for racists?'" said Wynn. "Imagine if we had that much empathy for, oh I don't know, trans people. I totally get that from frustration, too."
Wynn, who is transgender, has made videos defending her identity and explores what it means to transition from one gender to another.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/tapestry/contra-1.5273072/how-youtubers-are-deradicalizing-members-of-the-alt-right-1.5273079
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26732185 - 06/09/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That’s your example, huh?
That’s a good example of something taken out of context to fit an agenda, but hardly what you said.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
#26732205 - 06/09/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: That’s your example, huh?
That’s a good example of something taken out of context to fit an agenda, but hardly what you said.
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When Caleb Cain flunked out of college in 2014, he moved back in with his grandfather in West Virginia and fell into a deep depression.
It wasn't long before he spent hours each day watching YouTube videos, searching for a way out of his predicament.
One voice in particular stood out among the rest, Stefan Molyneux — a controversial Canadian creator who offered viewers a combination of self-help advice and conspiracy theories such as whether African Americans are genetically inferior than those of European ancestry.
After two years of watching these videos and those of far-right creators that Molyneux had recommended, he was a convert.
But in March, Cain released a YouTube video declaring he had abandoned those views entirely. He now considers himself a progressive social democrat.
"I realized how … stupid I was," Cain recounted in the video.
What changed Cain's mind and other far-right converts, he said, were YouTube video creators such as Natalie Wynn and Steven Bonnell, among other left-wing YouTubers, who debunked the rationales behind these views but also, conveyed in their videos that they weren't monsters. They were merely lost.
no pretty sure my statement was that former alt-righters credit Contrapoints as deradicalizing them and provided an example of an individual who matched that description
but if you feel there is something further you would like to speak on to attempt to immediately discredit what you have been shown please feel free
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
#26732298 - 06/09/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Tv show Cops has been cancelled and pulled from syndication
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