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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Asante] 3
#26718907 - 06/04/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: All of America is about race
Yes, if it's up to the MSM and The Elite, they will attempt to make a lot of serious issue very divisive and about race. A lot this of frustration is about the lack of economic response for the working class. The Elite change of subject of classism to racism for obvious reasons. I'm not suggesting the racial grievances don't have merit, but it's preferable to the classism grievance.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: morrowasted]
#26718915 - 06/04/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: It's a spurious correlation you dumbshit, poor people raised in abusive and/or single family homes with schools full of first and second year teachers and neighborhoods full of gangs are more likely to become criminals, and black people are more likely to live in those conditions as a result of centuries worth of abuse. If the English had had black skin, and white slaves had been imported and systematically held back for a dozen successive generations, the reverse would have resulted.
That may or may not be true. There's so many different factors in play here.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman] 6
#26719000 - 06/04/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's bizarre to me that some very liberal forums that encourage voting and following through the system and trusting authorities are like "abolish the police, have community policing".
What?
Have these motherfuckers ever been in a bad neighborhood? Part of what makes them so bad is the police (most often) don't give a shit about them or gave up and reach their quotas by frisking innocent people on the street.
Rather than responding to calls about rape and domestic abuse.
I feel like most of these people are also ones who have come to depend on being able to speed dial the cops and have them show up in minutes when there's a creepy dude in the parking garage.
Maybe that's too uncharitable.
Either way it's a ridiculous fantasy that I can't understand. Yall really think getting some democrat in office means they're gonna abolish the fucking police force?
I dunno but they're clearly hung up on it.
As opposed to realistic goals that won't just hurt poor/black people even more.
Cuz you know which communities is the least likely to police domestic violence and petty theft? The ones that experience it all the time... unfortunately also happens to be poor black communities... yeah let's fix police racism by wholly enabling the results of systematic racism.
ffs
For the record I know alot of you would like to abolish police but that's largely because of laws and because of bad standards in PDs. That can be fixed with alot of effort, other countries do do it...
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#26719017 - 06/04/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm all about reform, not abolishing by any means.
I love this idea for the whole country.
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/06/03/colorado-police-bill-colorado-george-floyd/
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26719032 - 06/04/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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No I'm hearing straight up abolish.
https://www.city-journal.org/abolish-police-call-to-action
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/police-abolish-criminal-justice-reform-20200102.html
http://cardozolawreview.com/are-police-obsolete-police-abolition/
If that's not what they mean then they're stupid for saying it that way. If they mean "reform police" then... don't call it abolishment because you will get no support from people who don't villainize the police.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26719038 - 06/04/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Abolishing the police may as well not even be brought up as a solution. Because it's a complete waste of breath. There's 0.000000000000000% chance that happens. That's fantasy shit.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26719044 - 06/04/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If the bill passes, it also would allow officers to be sued for civil rights violations in their individual capacities β a change criminal justice advocates have sought for years
I think its just more ways to make policing an unattractive career where people hate you.
We arent sure if killed for racial reasons, and his corpse was used as a symbol almost before rigor set in
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla] 2
#26719046 - 06/04/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What you talkin' bout bro?!
I wanna get back on some stone age shit and drive a flintstones car.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26719057 - 06/04/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: What you talkin' bout bro?!
I wanna get back on some stone age shit and drive a flintstones car.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26719064 - 06/04/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah somebody supporting "community policing" or abolishing the entire police force is out of their mind and reacting emotionally because of these recent events. If somebody actually thinks that long term, they have no idea about the real world. I mean the police are the most basic and important of the services of society. Kind of like abolishing healthcare or the fire department
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26719074 - 06/04/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'd feel safer
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
#26719078 - 06/04/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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we desperately need to abolish healthcare in the US
and the fire dept is racist cause it lets black neighborhoods burn
google it
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26719080 - 06/04/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs] 1
#26719096 - 06/04/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ahh, I was only talking about what sara posted about CO in particular. Abolish the police force??? x infinity. That will NEVER happen and doesn't need to be completely abolished IMHE, just reformed like outlined in the CO bill.
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26719097 - 06/04/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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abolish it 
Edited by cannabinated (06/04/20 12:39 PM)
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
#26719098 - 06/04/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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im very grateful for these protests because my area was about to go into martial law for no reason before this
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
#26719116 - 06/04/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This lady knows. She isnt anyones victim
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This is the sort of person i think is worthy of respect. Id rather have a nation of her then all the whiny virtue signalling white women we have today. Fuck, ill welcome the demographic change.Most white women and many white men today are  Worm jerry from rick and morty
Edited by specialpeopleclub (06/04/20 12:57 PM)
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues]
#26719117 - 06/04/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla] 2
#26719123 - 06/04/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Canβt wait for my favorite influencer to have a bunch of new material to share after his stay in prison πππ
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla] 1
#26719155 - 06/04/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Niffla said: Abolishing the police may as well not even be brought up as a solution. Because it's a complete waste of breath. There's 0.000000000000000% chance that happens. That's fantasy shit.
def not a fantasy yo it could happen
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