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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
    #26713144 - 06/02/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Did you get cancer from eating lawn pans yet? Your post gave me aids.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Cosmic_Flame] * 2
    #26713165 - 06/02/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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It's the same reason why the straight pride parades make zero sense. This is an inclusive movement born out of adversity, it provides a network and advocacy for people who still face discrimination every damn day of their life. White pride is the same thing colloquially as white supremacy.

What does it mean to you to be pro white?




This dont make sense.  Being pro-white by your own standard does not mean anti-black, but you just did a three turn dismount on the mental gymnastics on that one.



It does make sense. I see the double standard at play but it's fitting for a reason. It's a marginalized group taking up their pride again. A group that has been either oppressed or killed just for being who they are taking up advocacy. Being pro-white or any other non marginalized group is redundant because that group controls the status quo and benefits from this control in such a way that pro-white implies keeping the status quo to the marginalization and oppression of other groups.






It is a double standard, because over the last 500 years two races have lived two entirely different realities, and we are still dealing with the fall out of that. The same standard simply doesn't apply. I don't identify with the white community because that's literally pretty much all of America. I don't identify as white in the same way that someone may identify as black or latino because society hasn't forced me to.

What existential problems are white people, in specific, actually facing in society, due to their race?


And if you could cite the fuck out of that I'd sincerely appreciate it.

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It's the same reason why the straight pride parades make zero sense. This is an inclusive movement born out of adversity, it provides a network and advocacy for people who still face discrimination every damn day of their life. White pride is the same thing colloquially as white supremacy.

What does it mean to you to be pro white?



exactly

Its so frustrating how people just don't understand how damaging the ideologies from times of slavery are still so embedded in our society. Civil Rights was an extremely bloody affair that took more than a decade to get through and it still barely passed. And when it did it dramatically changed the political landscape for the worst.

An entire new law enforcement division was created with racist motivations at its core, the dea. I don't think I need to go into a long rant on this site about how the War on Drugs is a classist racist government-led initiative that has disenfranchised entire generations of Americans. I think we can all agree on that and if you can't I'd like to know what alternate earth you're living on.

I don't really like to engage in any discussions online about race or take your pick of minority issues because of the bad actors, they generally do it in bad faith. It always comes back to whether or not you know your history and if you're willing to actually listen to those of us who have lived it.

Its so fucking frustrating because its American history, our history yet people are either ignorant of it or have some revisionist version of it. I'm sick of it all. I've avoided this thread since it was made cause I knew how it was gonna go but I gotta vent somewhere. I'm a part of this community too. I love this place but the fools here really grind my gears and I'm not about to start attacking other members because of their own bigotry and obvious idiocy.





It really is so frustrating. People are totally willing to ignore reality as long as it protects their world view. There is this chunk of people in the world that cannot understand or empathize unless it's pertaining to something that happens directly to them or their loved ones, and anecdotally I've noticed that it's this type of person who is more likely to express racist sentiment. More likely to otherize anyone perceived to be different from themselves or that challenges their own world view.

And yeah, I agree that it's usually a bad idea to engage in these threads. They're completely unproductive at the best of times :lol:. Sometimes I just can't help myself :facepalm:. It's like this weird energy I have to get out. I'm not really an angry person, like at all, but I guess that's what they call anger :shrug:. I'm just sick of it.

And IRL, I've heard other white people utter some vile racist shit, but was younger and too shocked to call it out. Now I realize that I was apart of the problem, and while I don't think pointlessly arguing with people online is a real solution, or in anyway a worthwhile endeavor..it does me feel better for like 3 seconds?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #26713172 - 06/02/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sometimes Discussing the most basic things with certain shroomery members goes like this :sadyes:

Me (guy on left)>>
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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26713177 - 06/02/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lol I fucking love Key and Peele. Skit for everything.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #26713185 - 06/02/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yet the fact you responded at all tells you can't address it logically


This makes no sense.  Of course I can’t address it logically, it has none.

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and just want to nitpick about tone.


There’s nothing to address, it’s an emotional diatribe meant to shut down the conversation.

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Yes the tone is emotional theres still facts in there that you can't or wont refute.


Are there? I doubt it.

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So don't. This isn't a formal debate or a dissertation it's internet banter


If you don’t have some form of deccorum you’re not having a discussion, you’re just browbeating.

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I can be as melty as I want


So you melted down in the same breath that you accused someone else of doing it, then tried to make fun of them for it.  You have just posted admission of using a dishonest tactic.  I appreciate your honesty and candor.

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and you will use that to distract from the validity of my point.




Your point is an emotionally charged diatribe meant to shut anyone down who disagrees with it.

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Fuck you you're just here to argue.




No, I genuinely disagree with you, you use logical fallacies as fact and try to add emotive qualities for browbeating purposes and then scream when the other person sees through it.

The ‘fuck you’ part just proves my point further.

PS-please learn to edit your posts before submission.  There’s no need for the whole conversation to be added every time.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #26713187 - 06/02/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Did you get cancer from eating lawn pans yet? Your post gave me aids.



That’s a very nasty thing to say.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
    #26713189 - 06/02/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Can't wait untill looters and thugs run into armed republicans. It's gonna be beautiful.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26713193 - 06/02/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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lol I fucking love Key and Peele.



Same. Supposedly ripped of dave chappelle but  its still good.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
    #26713239 - 06/02/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Did you get cancer from eating lawn pans yet? Your post gave me aids.



That’s a very nasty thing to say.



I hope your lymph nodes are ok bro


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 3
    #26713250 - 06/02/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You're being ignorant and childish. Ultimately, making yourself look stupid. From an '04 no less. How about instead of mouthing off and then crying when someone calls you out for doing it like a spastic, you just shut up before you make it worse? :lol:


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26713257 - 06/02/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You're being ignorant and childish. Ultimately, making yourself look stupid. From an '04 no less. How about instead of mouthing off and then crying when someone calls you out for doing it like a spastic, you just shut up before you make it worse? :lol:



I've been on here a lot longer 04 is when i decided to stop lurking. Why does it matter?

[MOD EDIT]: No Flaming.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #26713268 - 06/02/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

He's been advocating repeatedly for the protesters in this thread :shrug:. You should take a deep breath or something.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #26713301 - 06/02/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why does it matter? I suppose not a whole lot I just tend to expect that people act more level-headed the longer they use the internet. It's not like I don't expect people to argue sometimes, it's more like you're toeing the line of calling him a poopoo head. You're attempting to be condescending just because you tried talking shit and it didn't work. Generally when people have been interneting for long enough they think of more intuitive ways to enter a conversation instead of rejecting it by attempting to insult the person responding to them and simply acting like you're better than them. If you have something to say then say it, but don't accuse people of things, embody it, and then treat someone however for pointing it out. That's so ridiculous it's comical. Perhaps I could have been a little nicer in my last response but the point remains that it's not solving anything lashing out due to your own mistake


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26713334 - 06/02/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

qman, feevers and koods, I agree 100% with the above statements. So very sad and infuriating, and it seems like it will never end. I am lucky as hell in life right now, and I do not take it for granted.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #26713397 - 06/02/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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It's the same reason why the straight pride parades make zero sense. This is an inclusive movement born out of adversity, it provides a network and advocacy for people who still face discrimination every damn day of their life. White pride is the same thing colloquially as white supremacy.

What does it mean to you to be pro white?




This dont make sense.  Being pro-white by your own standard does not mean anti-black, but you just did a three turn dismount on the mental gymnastics on that one.




If you spend your life on the bottom, and you take pride anyway, that is thought of as strength in facing adveristy

If you are on the top, and you take pride in that, that is thought of as a celebration of supremacy


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 7
    #26713408 - 06/02/20 08:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The priests at St. John’s church were driven two blocks away by tear gas so trump could take a photo at the their church.







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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods]
    #26713429 - 06/02/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why would anyone actually think their first amendment right takes precedent over trump's right to take a picture pretending he likes god so that he can scoop some votes from dumb people?

You're basically a communist if you don't think trump winning reelection is more important than the constitution and the law.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26713440 - 06/02/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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If you spend your life on the bottom, and you take pride anyway, that is thought of as strength in facing adveristy


depends on the cause.  I see where you’re going with this.

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If you are on the top, and you take pride in that, that is thought of as a celebration of supremacy




That makes no sense.  You’ve charged it up with emotion to make it to your liking but the logic is not there.  A person can still be proud of a concept regardless of their social status.

Allowing another to dictate how you feel about oneself will cause a loss of identity.  To dictate one can only have an identity because of low social status is demoralizing to said group and quite patronizing.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: feevers]
    #26713450 - 06/02/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Why would anyone actually think their first amendment right takes precedent over trump's right to take a picture pretending he likes god so that he can to scoop some votes from dumb people?

You're basically a communist if you don't think trump winning reelection is more important than the constitution and the law.




What are you talking about?  I see hyperbole and some personal attacks at trump voters, but that last sentence got me confused.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow] * 4
    #26713455 - 06/02/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Why would anyone actually think their first amendment right takes precedent over trump's right to take a picture pretending he likes god so that he can to scoop some votes from dumb people?

You're basically a communist if you don't think trump winning reelection is more important than the constitution and the law.




What are you talking about?  I see hyperbole and some personal attacks at trump voters, but that last sentence got me confused.




When are you not confused?


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