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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26774411 - 06/22/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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They pulled down some statue in DC tonight. I saw it live. It was FUCKING. AWESOME.

Of course the die hard Americans I was with did not agree.

I say who cares? Only a child.

Let's be more.



I agree with taking down the statues of racism and what they really stand for. I also am with removing that stupid fucking rebel flag which entirely means racism! It's not about "the history" as they try to say. It's all about the symbolism and fuckery. Confederates lost, why should get memorials that celebrate enslaving people? It's fucking twisted.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26774429 - 06/22/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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They pulled down some statue in DC tonight. I saw it live. It was FUCKING. AWESOME.

Of course the die hard Americans I was with did not agree.

I say who cares? Only a child.

Let's be more.



I agree with taking down the statues of racism and what they really stand for. I also am with removing that stupid fucking rebel flag which entirely means racism! It's not about "the history" as they try to say. It's all about the symbolism and fuckery. Confederates lost, why should get memorials that celebrate enslaving people? It's fucking twisted.




I say get rid of ALL public symbols and statues, I don't like any one ideology determining what is "offensive" and what isn't. Take it all down.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman]
    #26774516 - 06/22/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The whole thing is u should be able to put up whatever u want. If u wanna petition and whatnot to put a statue of hitler riding a tyrannosaurus shooting an mp40 or lenin popign out of a giant cake in a bikini like they have in Portland u should be able to do that. As long as its not explicitly obscene. Sticks and stones but words and expressions should never hurt u :facepalm:


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #26774533 - 06/22/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

that's complete bullshit. words cut deeper than sticks and stones ever can. they cut straight to the soul itself. any kid can tell you that.

any kid who committed suicide over facebook bullying would tell you that, if they could still speak.

my college art teacher once asked us a question near the beginning of the semester: "what does art mean, to you"? we had many replies, but mine was, in a nutshell: "art, to me, is communication. the artist is trying to convey, through a form of media, something, whether it's a perspective, their feelings, a message, or their soul, to the viewer. it's a type of language, that may or may not involve words."

statues are art. and those confederate statues are conveying messages of hatred, bigotry, and slavery. they poison our communities just by existing. they deserve to be wiped from existence, like the pestilences they are.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psion]
    #26774542 - 06/22/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I think that u need to let people say whatever they want. Things that are blatantly hurtful hateful or obscene should be spoken out against but I think in a democracy we need to allow expression of ideas both "good" and "bad." If you see a rasict simply point out how terrible and ignorant they are. Do not live in hurt and fear of their ideals. The righteous mind has nothing to hide from


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26774546 - 06/22/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

art is fucking stupid bro. Its just copying people and tricking people into buying crap. Its one the biggest scams running. All are is just copying someone and scaming people. Im sure ur art teacher was a good person :rolleyes: careful u might find out ur a walking sack of human garbage and ur life is a racist lie


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26774548 - 06/22/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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The whole thing is u should be able to put up whatever u want. If u wanna petition and whatnot to put a statue of hitler riding a tyrannosaurus shooting an mp40 or lenin popign out of a giant cake in a bikini like they have in Portland u should be able to do that. As long as its not explicitly obscene. Sticks and stones but words and expressions should never hurt u :facepalm:




You're referring to private, I'm referring to public.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: qman]
    #26774556 - 06/22/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

no public its no different than Christmas tree on the green or menorah or Kwanzaa log or pride bush. Ur just bigoted


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26774561 - 06/22/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

u know 5 black ppl were lynched and hung last week


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26774562 - 06/22/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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no public its no different than Christmas tree on the green or menorah or Kwanzaa log or pride bush. Ur just bigoted




Get rid of all of it, I find it all offensive.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
    #26774573 - 06/22/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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u know 5 black ppl were lynched and hung last week



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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26774586 - 06/22/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26774589 - 06/22/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Wouldn't be surprised if they were suicides with how terrible u people all are to eachother. Seems like metal health is tanking whilst you all think ur a good cause.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26774593 - 06/22/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 2
    #26774595 - 06/22/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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art is fucking stupid bro. Its just copying people and tricking people into buying crap. Its one the biggest scams running. All are is just copying someone and scaming people. Im sure ur art teacher was a good person :rolleyes: careful u might find out ur a walking sack of human garbage and ur life is a racist lie





science is copying other people and building on on their knowledge as well. (and yes, selling what you invent is part of that too, sometimes, i guess. :tongue: ) you act like art is something stupid, but art is an incredibly important part of our culture. star trek, and the Dune chronicles where what inspired many scientists to come up with much our current technology, for instance - it gave them ideas for things like 3D printers, hydroponics, and the like for how to survive in space, as well as more earth based technology (like cell phones!)

it's not a one way street either - science creates weird things, which causes artists to come up with weird new ideas, which they then write/draw/sculpt/whatever about, which then gives scientists new ideas for inventions, which then inspires artists, and so on.

this isn't just for rocket scientists either - it applies to architects, to the soft sciences, to biologists, and to everyday people who are feeling down and who suddenly see a picture that speaks to them, whos message helps them "get through" some troubling issue they've been struggling with, or simply lifts their mood whenever they gaze on it.

what do you think music is? it's an art. haven't you ever listened to a song that lifts your heart, that makes you want to sing? haven't you ever seen a dance that makes your heart race and puts a grin on your face, that brings a shine to your eyes? haven't you ever heard a story that takes you to a far off place and inspires you, that makes you want to be a better person like the one in the tale?

these and more are all forms of art. the buildings that look pleasing to the eye are art. (architecture). there's the art of planting (landscaping, bonsai). the art of cooking, the martial arts, the art of graphic design. even the words on this screen are the art of typography. the font we use was designed - the shape of the words, the spacing between them, all designed specifically to be easy to read while saving on ink. (other fonts, like comic sans, were designed by satan himself.)

science is important, but so is art. they are tied together, in a sort of dynamic feedback loop. you cannot have one without the other, should not try. it is better to cultivate both in healthy measure, as they have a symbiotic relationship.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psion] * 1
    #26774607 - 06/22/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Star trek ok bud yah ur an art aficionado I can tell. I know what art is bro its called ur stupid and just copy other shit. Either ur just copying other shit or combining a bunch of idiots until people can't tell ur the ultimate copy scammer and just put 2 and 2 together. They all just copy shit and if not they just copy the real beauty which is nature. Ur terrible uve contributed nothing to anything while trying to blow smoke up my ass and everyones collective asshole
I'm not gonna just sit here and let u get away with it.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psion]
    #26774633 - 06/22/20 04:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

um... all you've done is...said absolutely nothing.

you've just said shit a bunch of times and made no real argument, put no real proof behind your words. you've made an accusation and thats it.

and i just said that art is a communication... don't you think that maybe, just maybe, they're "communicating" hints of that? expressing bits of what nature is? every time you speak, you're "copying" that meaning of those words. if i type the word cat, i'm "copying" the symbol of the word cat, every time i type it, in a way you understand it.

so why is this a bad thing? last i checked, most people can't speak telepathically to each other - we're stuck with art, speech, gestures, and words. which, by the way, are all forms of art.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psion]
    #26774647 - 06/22/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Psion]
    #26774648 - 06/22/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ur not hearing my communication. I laid bare my argument that art is stupid. Now ur just tryong to make excuses cop out and rationalize the copying and constant spin job that is art. Go ahead and defend the art world. The people that spend more that ur life os worth on a banana peel taped to a wall. Ur a clown :jerkoff:


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #26774652 - 06/22/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

art is most important tool for changing hearts and minds

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