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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Niffla]
    #26744222 - 06/14/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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A blind eye? The officer deserved to be arrested and charged with murder. As any murderer. Thankfully he was. Hopefully he'll be punished appropriately.



They almost never are. That’s the problem.

It’s not just about murders. It’s about the almost absolute lack of accountability for any kind of police abuse of authority.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: koods]
    #26744233 - 06/14/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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A blind eye? The officer deserved to be arrested and charged with murder. As any murderer. Thankfully he was. Hopefully he'll be punished appropriately.



They almost never are. That’s the problem.

It’s not just about murders. It’s about the almost absolute lack of accountability for any kind of police abuse of authority.




Hey no argument from me -- the law enforcement system is broke, and has been broke for...probably forever, and maybe this epic fiasco will finally be the wake up call and turning point for it.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26744295 - 06/14/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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qman said:
The problem I have with these sorts of charitable donations is it's peasants helping peasants. Here in the US people are constantly doing a GoFundMe program for their medical bills or some other personal tragedy. Instead of begging other poor people for money, why don't they focus on a Medicare For All program from their government?

Poor people funding other poor people isn't a long term solution.  We need to see rich people paying their fair share, that should be the focus.





the newly formed autonomous zone needed some immediate cash flow and needed to know who their allies are. This $10 challenge accomplished just that.

A autonomous zone, like any organization, needs $$ and to know who their allies are.
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You cheated

You should have said: "here is a tenner because you are black and I am white"

I doubt the response would have been the same





Bunch of cop out by people not willing to take part in the action.

I supplied a positive experience between the recepient and I. The deeper meaning of the transaction was strictly between my Sporit Guide and I.

You're cheating. You want me to set up awkward circumstances so you can say see? it was awkward.

You're also cheating because you wouldnt dream of taking part of the action and like to see it fail.


I said to my Spirit Guide that I wanted to act in solidarity to the action. My Spirit Guide told me that I must then get off my rotund ass and literally put my money where my mouth was and my Spirit Guide arranged the transaction to take place right after I walked out of the AH.

Talk is cheap, bla bla bla.  But who actually forks over the 10 bucks?





Empty :blah: is killing the world. If you want to effect change, put your money where your mouth is.

My meaningful transaction was with my Spirit Guide, he stacked the deck such that this random kid had an epic OMG moment without any hassle.

Hassling him would have dragged him down and that was not needed for the transaction.


Pay close attention, this is how spirits and Gods conduct business with you and how Magic works. I have transacted myself into the fate of the Autonomous Zone and with it, enriched it with, excuse me, the blessings that rest on my endeavors.

The price I paid, that made the kid happy, put my shoulder under the endeavor, karmically. Through my Spirit Guide the Universe endebted itself to me towards a favorable outcome

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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Asante]
    #26744315 - 06/14/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Talk is cheap, bla bla bla.  But who actually forks over the 10 bucks?




Well not me

I only support causes that benefit me personally

And if cheating is the means to my ends I will do that too


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tripsurfer] * 3
    #26744325 - 06/14/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Certainly not you, you fail to see that the entire world is interconnected and that any blow to anyone is a blow to you, and any ascension by any of us ascends you a bit too.

I was paid in synchronicity, in the sheer joy I brought and entwining myself karmically in a righteous endeavor.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Asante]
    #26744369 - 06/14/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You should do a binding on the autonomous zone.  Get as intertwined with that place as possible.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26744377 - 06/14/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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People kill people every day. This is true.

No one should use that as justification for turning a blind eye to POLICE killing
people every day.

I've said it multiple times and I'll say it again

POLICE ARE NOT JUDGE, JURY, AND EXECUTIONER.

They should be held to a higher standard than criminals they are supposed to be policing.

I seriously hate the "people are murdered every day, get over it" rhetoric :rolleyes:





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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: sui]
    #26744403 - 06/14/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder if the autozone that was smashed that incited the riots was good for the economy cause it brought so many ppl into the city

so now governors and mayors are on the BLM wave


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: christopera]
    #26744501 - 06/14/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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psi said:
So under the cardboard there's grass and the soil that was already there? I don't see a problem.




It's a very common way of planting, not sure where these noobs are getting their info. It helps reduce weeds and can be done for basically free if you have a source of boxes.




My question is whether or not this is the first time community gardens have been allowed in the city
in Montréal, there was a nice big community garden near the hub metro station
where all sorts of people came in and grew herbs and food in their own little section


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: lowbrow]
    #26744505 - 06/14/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Protestor shoots man in pickup.

https://krdo.com/news/2020/06/06/video-shows-moments-surrounding-alamosa-protest-shooting/




Video appears to show man in pickup attempting to run over protestors and one practicing self defense

the video shows him driving into the protestors without giving them time to clear a path

according to your link, the protestors felt threatened by his use of a weapon to try and push through them

but most notably, despite the video showing the truck driving into a group of protestors
the police response is to claim that did not happen

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On Friday afternoon, some protestors told KRDO the driver plowed through the crowd, but Alamosa police said there is no evidence to support those claims.

"We've heard the same thing," Capt. Joey Spangler said. "But again, it's an ongoing investigation. I can say we have no evidence to show that he was driving into or through the protestors."




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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26744515 - 06/14/20 05:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I didn't get any hatred for native americans from his posts.

I think maybe you got that because of his sentence structure but I think in every case he was condemning the actions of european settlers.



Really man you need to calm down a little. I know recent arguments on this topic have you on edge but there's alot of people who are simply ignorant on how recent history has effected native people.



Again goes back to the population and poverty issue. There's no strong movement and no media coverage.




if you have not picked up on it, pretty sure Muncher is from a First Nations background

so being polite to people who are ignorant about a history of discrimination and genocide seems a little apologetic


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26744520 - 06/14/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Is being nudged by someone in a vehicle when you're blocking the street reason to shoot them now?


I'm not saying anything other than to me it didn't look like anyone was in immediate danger of being seriously hurt. In fact to me in that video it doesn't like anyone was even touched by the truck.


Or is there other footage?


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26744535 - 06/14/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Me and Muncher have talked about it before.


I don't think it's helpful. Pretty much everyone is ignorant. They don't stop being ignorant by you yelling at them and accusing them of being as bad as... people that did really terrible things.
I don't think it's helpful to muncher as a person either.

But if you want me to let people who have valid reason to be upset argue with everyone even distantly related to their anger constantly all the time even though they agree with each other because they don't know some of the facts or have a hard time articulating it... we can vote on it.


Because that's what it would be. Almost every person here belongs to a group that has been wronged by society for one reason or another. And a good portion of us have personal experience with negative impact.


I'm serious. If you want me to stop trying to keep order and keep everyone cordial I will leave. I do this on behalf of the community.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26744538 - 06/14/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Is being nudged by someone in a vehicle when you're blocking the street reason to shoot them now?




Is being pushed by a several ton tool being utilized as a weapon cause to fear being knocked under it and crushed below the weight?

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I'm not saying anything other than to me it didn't look like anyone was in immediate danger of being seriously hurt. In fact to me in that video it doesn't like anyone was even touched by the truck.




Wow Cookie, this is the route you are going to take
did you watch the video on the news link as well?
The one where they darken the rest of the frame and highlight the shooter
so that the eye is drawn away from the front of the truck hitting protestors


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Or is there other footage?




It's the same footage



look at the right hand side of the truck while the news is insisting you look to the left


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika] * 1
    #26744542 - 06/14/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I can't honestly tell :ohwell: Rewatched it a couple times now.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26744557 - 06/14/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Me and Muncher have talked about it before.


I don't think it's helpful. Pretty much everyone is ignorant. They don't stop being ignorant by you yelling at them and accusing them of being as bad as... people that did really terrible things.




No, but at least they will stop being apologetic to the rhetoric around you
do not think the Shroomery transphobes are responsible for the personal murder of trans people
but do think that their casual pushing of an agenda of denying the identities of trans people and our lived experiences
are the social norms that embolden the killers in the present day

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CookieCrumbs said:
But if you want me to let people who have valid reason to be upset argue with everyone even distantly related to their anger constantly all the time even though they agree with each other because they don't know some of the facts or have a hard time articulating it... we can vote on it.




Censoring someone for being legitimately angry over oppression is not cause for a vote

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Because that's what it would be. Almost every person here belongs to a group that has been wronged by society for one reason or another. And a good portion of us have personal experience with negative impact.




False equivalence, and you should be familiar with that
there are people who want you dead because you are willing to suck girl dick and still "call yourself" a lesbian

but tell me how if you were not a lesbian your life as a cishet white woman would be limited to the same threats instead of an additional stack on top

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I'm serious. If you want me to stop trying to keep order and keep everyone cordial I will leave. I do this on behalf of the community.




You can keep it up, am just pointing out the issues with your perceptions
keeping things cordial is awesome, and respect you for that
having the metric of cordial be that oppressed minorities have to be as chill about things as the majority that benefits from that discrimination dictates is a rough way to do it tho

people get to casually blow off minorities for not adhering to the standards of majority society
and then we are told that we have to keep things polite and play by their rules and avoid making our issues heard

respect what you are doing, quite genuinely
just asking you to step back for a moment from time to time and see how normalization of a lens is impacting those deviating from it

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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26744564 - 06/14/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
I can't honestly tell :ohwell: Rewatched it a couple times now.




Remember when that enby trans woman called the cops for police assisted suicide
then pretended to act all shifty and take a few steps towards a cop and they shot her dead

imagine standing in the street with a multi-ton pickup truck trying to push through you
after there have been multiple instances of people purposely running over protestors

which would you find more threatening?  Keep in mind, both were shot, just the first by cops feeling threatend
and the second by a citizen feeling threatened


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26744578 - 06/14/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Tbf I probably wouldn't have said anything if chief wasn't mostly agreeing with him, just on a different page.

I didn't say much when he or you were railing against people who had expressed actual racism or transphobia.


We do still have issues on the shroomery and I'm not always sure how to deal with them due to its history.

But you do raise a valid point that raising your voice to be heard over the haters is often taken as stepping over the line.


To some extent though it's just bad for your mental health and for your communities. Being a mod I have the power to censor. I would rather reason and help people help themselves and their own goals though. Especially when I support those goals.


And as an aside I don't really like sucking dick. Ladies or otherwise :lol:

I don't deny all the privilege I have of being white. We will talk about it more sometime.


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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: Tantrika]
    #26744586 - 06/14/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

idc to review these petty disputes over life but please keep in mind yall how the media loves to conflate abhorrent  behavior with protest



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Re: Chaos in Minneapolis, MN last night regarding the death of George Floyd [Re: cannabinated]
    #26744589 - 06/14/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

and they used that incident to protect biden

calling someone who advocates for the murder of lesser races a 'protestor' while he was inciting violence


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