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Which pressure canner?
    #26699543 - 05/27/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My canner is on it's last legs and Im not seeing any other 23 qt prestos available, or many pcs in general. Any recommendations on which one or where?


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26699655 - 05/27/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I found a 23 Qt Presto a couple of weeks ago at a Rural King. Haven't been able to find them anywhere else. Definitely check your local farm supply shop.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26699675 - 05/27/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: MH5109]
    #26699717 - 05/27/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Highly recommend All American. The longevity of the unit outweighs the initial cost.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Mugnath]
    #26699745 - 05/27/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yea if you have the money all american is the way to go. Lifetime tools that will retain their their value well. Plus you can mod them to be a sterilizer if the bobbing weight gets on your nerves.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Mad Hatter]
    #26699750 - 05/27/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Mhs that mirro is also out of stock. Which all American would you suggest?


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26699763 - 05/27/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I just picked up a 23 qt Presto at Ace Hardware (locally) they had one on the shelf...it was the last one..but they had 2 Presto 18qt canners with the gauge on the shelf...so check Ace if you have one local.

Also, I called Presto customer service to see when they would have them back in stock and they told me they actually have them in stock you just have to call and ask and order over the phone...they aren't listing them online...this was for the 23 qt and that was just over a week ago. I did order a 23qt over the phone with Presto but then cancelled because I found the one at Ace..so call Presto customer service.

If you have the money for an All American by all means.

Also check facebook marketplace...there's been some on there..and sometimes you find some crazy deals. I found an All American sterilizer in good working condition for $100 (normally like $800 new), I just didn't have the time to go pick it up...2 hours each way. There's deals to be had if you look hard enough.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26699767 - 05/27/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The 25 qt is a good size that fits on stoves well and is perfect for agar runs if you want to do agar in future. Can fit a good amount of jars in it aswell.

Ive seen all americans on craigslist aswell for good prices.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26699791 - 05/27/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Im definitely goin to give presto a call!


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26699900 - 05/27/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Been using my mirro for ages with no problems.  Saw it was available on this site (http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/Mirro-Pressure-Canner-22-Quart.htm) no clue about shipping.  I never worry about the lack of pressure gauge, physics tells me the pressure.  Only other issue is that 2 of the jars on top need to be narrow mouth to make it fit 10 qt jars.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26701247 - 05/28/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Im a little timid about using one without a gauge.

Just called presto, they are out till august! Haha looks like my best options are one for 2x the price on ebay or an all American.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: SpaceDrooze]
    #26701265 - 05/28/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I found a 23 Qt Presto a couple of weeks ago at a Rural King.




Same. Had to drive 2hrs40min round trip but saved $60 off the inflated $150 my local hardware store wants for them all the time.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: ModularMind]
    #26701422 - 05/28/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

All American or die!


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: migraineur]
    #26701573 - 05/28/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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All American or die!




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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26702210 - 05/28/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Im a little timid about using one without a gauge.




See if this helps.  PSI is pounds per square in.  Pounds are units of force and square inches of area.  You want 15psi.  The stem of a pressure cooker has an area of whatever, call it x square inches.  The weight of the jiggler just needs a weight of 15lbs*x such that it won't lift off with under 15psi of pressure.  Your pressure will never exceed what the jiggler dictates and never be much under if it's moving.  Certainly a few fluid dynamics factors will affect your pressure due to certain motions of the jiggler, but they won't be that large and they would be exactly the same on a presto.

For instance, my cooker:
97g weight actual weight
3.35mm diameter stem --> Area = 8.83 mm^2 = 0.0136806616769484 sq inches
0.0136806616769484*15 lbs = .205 lb = 93g, so the calculation damn near produces my jiggler weight, which might be a touch higher to ensure 15 psi during venting, or simply my calipers not fitting that well in the stem.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26702240 - 05/28/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

not sure how many prestos ive burned out over the years.
never burned out an all american.

over the haul all american is the only choice.

i would also suggest, if ya know what your doing, the instapot works.
just run an instapot 2x for 40 minits 24 hours apart.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26702247 - 05/28/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Im a little timid about using one without a gauge.

Just called presto, they are out till august! Haha looks like my best options are one for 2x the price on ebay or an all American.





Can you even find anywhere that has All Americans in stock...they were sold out every too when I was looking a few weeks ago.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: lateforthafuture] * 1
    #26702252 - 05/28/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I've had my mirro for 7 years and never even replaced the gasket.  Only lubed with water. :shrug:  How are you burning out prestos?


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26702276 - 05/28/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

in my world a presto lasts max 18 months before gaskets and or guages blow.
yes, you can order new gaskets.
for those who have ever actually gone thru this my condolences.
its almost easier to just get a new presto.
if you have to pause a scale grow cuz a seal blows,
when ya figure time and money lost with hassles it is cheaper to buy 2 all americans outright, and blow past the roadblocks.

this would all depend on the level of use.
a mono a year, whatever, presto might last decades.
for those who do the room size, prestos have the lifespan of hamsters.
as compared to all americans, wich i suspect will last thru the next ice age and be used by humans who dig them up in 3020.

never underestimate an instapot though,
i just did a scale grow using instapots as a test.
it can be made to work up to the several mono scale.
maybe beyond.
if i had no bux, and was less than dried pound a year grower, id get an instapot.

as a side not many years ago i sourced 2 generic cookers from india for like 30 bux each, they were fantastic till seals blew.


Edited by panne cyanne (05/28/20 05:22 PM)


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: panne cyanne]
    #26702310 - 05/28/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What’s the biggest instant pot? 10qt? I’ll take the 23qt presto at the cheaper price point.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: ModularMind]
    #26702326 - 05/28/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

My presto has been great, been using it for years. Never had a seal problem and there isn't a pressure gauge just a weight. Nothing bad to say about presto, I wouldn't be afraid to use it on the daily. I was doing 3-4 grain cycles a week for about 4 months and its still as good as it was when I bought it.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: ModularMind]
    #26702327 - 05/28/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

instapots do have size issues,
therefore i got 3 for my project.
2 large 1 small.

they do have the advantage of built in heating.
and they do work if run twice 24 hours apart.
they are also excellent for agar.
especially the small one.
being self timing, no more falling asleep stoned while cookers run dry.
and , they are somewhat quieter.

dont get me wrong, instapots are cool,
and ive had great luck with them,
but im an all american girl at heart.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: MH5109]
    #26702331 - 05/28/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I prolly use my mirro at least once a week.  I could see running AA's if you use it for grains every day.
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My presto has been great, been using it for years. Never had a seal problem and there isn't a pressure gauge just a weight. Nothing bad to say about presto, I wouldn't be afraid to use it on the daily. I was doing 3-4 grain cycles a week for about 4 months and its still as good as it was when I bought it.



Do you use any lubrican on the seal or just water?  I kinda suspect some lubricants might degrade it over time.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: panne cyanne]
    #26702342 - 05/28/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'll agree that the All Americans are superior...but I'm on my 3rd 23 qt Presto...nothing was wrong with the first two..I just got rid of them because I was moving and took a break from the hobby. I never had any issues with my first two Prestos and I used to run the hell out of them.

The manual says to change the gaskets every year...I'd imagine if you are running them multiple times a week you may need to chage them more often...the gaskets are not meant to last 18 months even at normal use.

I've never blown a gauge but I'm sure it's possible and they are cheap to replace.

If you can afford the All American it's the way to go...no doubt. Not having to replace $10-15 gaskets once or twice a year is worth the extra price in the long run.

I've just had such good experiences with Presto that I went that route... I'm still drooling over the All Americans...don't get me wrong...and I will buy one one day.

The Presto will do just fine and last a very very long time if you take care of them and accept that you are going to have to change parts.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26702349 - 05/28/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have used a little vegetable oil on the gasket before but not on a regular basis. Once every 6 months or so, I personally think heating them up slowly and letting them gradually heat will make them last longer. I bought two spare gaskets and have never used either of them lol, but its like tires on your vehicle, eventually they gotta be replaced.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: MH5109]
    #26702354 - 05/28/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I bring mine up in pressure gradually as well.  Helps prevent masons from cracking and pp5 from crushing I think.  Only adds a couple of minutes, and it helps me find a good jiggler rhythm faster once it hits pressure.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #26702362 - 05/28/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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  I could see running AA's if you use it for grains every day.
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my point exactly, running a presto multiple grain loads a day for extended periods of time kills the seals in months.
i suppose one could order seals ahead of time.

IMO greasing seals kills them faster.
the only time ill grease a seal is if i know its cooked and need to get a last load or so out of it for emergency reasons while waiting 4 to 6 working weeks on a new seal in the mail.

id suggest order 3 or 4 seals at once, its not unheard of for a seal to be dead on arrival. not sure presto is absolute on quality control.
i was being generous on the 18 month thing in consideration of the typical growers, to me its far far less than that. but thats not the usual experience for most.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: panne cyanne]
    #26703135 - 05/29/20 01:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so Presto is out of the 23qt till august. All Americans also sold out everywhere. Ebay has the 23 qt presto for $230 shipped for anyone desperate. Best thing I could find was a 16 qt presto at my local tractor supply.


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    #26703179 - 05/29/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.pressurecooker-outlet.com/Mirro-Pressure-Canner-22-Quart.htm

They got the mirro 22 for like 105 shipped and presto 23 for like 115 shipped.


My bad, all they got is the mirro 16 for like 95 shipped.  They had the mirro 22 last time i looked.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


Edited by Machiavelliavore (05/29/20 01:36 AM)


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: FunnyFungiName]
    #26704333 - 05/29/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Ok so Presto is out of the 23qt till august. All Americans also sold out everywhere. Ebay has the 23 qt presto for $230 shipped for anyone desperate. Best thing I could find was a 16 qt presto at my local tractor supply.




AA released stock last night on Amazon. I bought a second AA.

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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Mugnath]
    #26704433 - 05/29/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Glad to have found this thread.. Ive recently rejoined the hobby and message boards after a 3 year break. I also got rid of my PC's trying to lighten the load for a move. I've been searching myself. I did located a presto 23qt on a website called bridery.club <<this is the link>>for 58bux!!
Sounds sketchy i know but i figured maybe i just got lucky and found a killer deal.

However.. im starting to think i'm gonna need to file a dispute as this could/maybe a scam seeing as how i placed the order on the 23rd and just got a email today with a tracking number but its to a tracking server im unformiluar with named "17track.net"  Oh, and they also say that i will be able to check the tracking in a few days as it will not immediate update, lol?

The email also informed me that i should recieve the cooker in 15-25 day. Sounds like they are trying to buy time for some reason? Not sure if there is a time frame i can dispute or for what reason the shipping maybe taking so long as the company claims to be in U.S.
Please let me know if anyone has heard of this company or this tracking server, or if i should go ahead and get started on trying to get my money back.
Also if anyone finds and new leads on a presto23 (i cant afford a AA at this point in my life as much as i would love to have one)
Please keep us updated!


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: Killerclowns87] * 1
    #26704459 - 05/29/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks legit as far as I can tell. "17TRACK is an all-in-one global package tracking platform.

17TRACK supports over 500 worldwide carriers,including postal carriers"

It is available on the google app store as well.


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Re: Which pressure canner? [Re: panne cyanne] * 1
    #26704473 - 05/29/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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being self timing, no more falling asleep stoned while cookers run dry.





Perhaps that's why you had to replace them that often?


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    #26704595 - 05/29/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Glad to have found this thread.. Ive recently rejoined the hobby and message boards after a 3 year break. I also got rid of my PC's trying to lighten the load for a move. I've been searching myself. I did located a presto 23qt on a website called bridery.club <<this is the link>>for 58bux!!
Sounds sketchy i know but i figured maybe i just got lucky and found a killer deal.

However.. im starting to think i'm gonna need to file a dispute as this could/maybe a scam seeing as how i placed the order on the 23rd and just got a email today with a tracking number but its to a tracking server im unformiluar with named "17track.net"  Oh, and they also say that i will be able to check the tracking in a few days as it will not immediate update, lol?

The email also informed me that i should receive the cooker in 15-25 day. Sounds like they are trying to buy time for some reason? Not sure if there is a time frame i can dispute or for what reason the shipping maybe taking so long as the company claims to be in U.S.
Please let me know if anyone has heard of this company or this tracking server, or if i should go ahead and get started on trying to get my money back.
Also if anyone finds and new leads on a presto23 (i cant afford a AA at this point in my life as much as i would love to have one)
Please keep us updated!



Prices on that site are very appealing.  All I could find is that according to alexadata it has 0-traffic and it was mentioned on sever sites that report spam phone call numbers as a "scam website"  I use 17track all the time but that doesn't say whether the tracking number is legit, 17track is just a multi-service tracking application (mostly for asia.)


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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