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Short question about my second trip?
    #26696758 - 05/26/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hello, I have only taken mushrooms two times. First time I eat 45 dried liberty caps with my best friend (both of us did 45) and it was a very light trip, we only laughed for no reason for about 10 minutes and then just had philosophical discussions. The second time I ate 200 dried liberty caps with some lemon, 6 months ago all by myself. How many grams do you think that is? I read lots of topics and people generally said that 25-35 is about one gram but I dont know about that. My 200 liberty caps trip was a bit intense. First 20 minutes intense visuals and  so I had to lie down in bed and close my eyes and then I had a wonderful trip. I felt this thing called Synesthesia and I felt like I am the whole universe just experiencing itself thru multiple eyes I felt connected. I had an out of body experience where I saw my fiends and my parents and I was talking to them, and then I had a ego death, I thought that I was dying and saw multiple scenarios about how I die/dyed but I was not scared because I remembered that I have to accept the trip not fight it and I was not scared, not at all, I was curious to see whats next. This all happened during 2-3 hours while I was in my bed  with my eyes closed, I always knew that I was tripping but I tried to go as deep as possible. And then I wake up, and I had a panic attack because I had the felling that I have done something very horrible like killed somebody (wich of course I did not) then my mom calls me just to check on me and I got scared, my mind started to think that my mom knows what I did and I got scared harder, eventually she just came home and calmed me down, showing me that everything is ok and I am fine (she thought I just had a bad dream and was kinda sleepwalking, thing that happened to me when I was a kid). 6 month by, I fell good, but one month after the trip I had this bad felling, I think that I got scared about what I saw during my trip, me dying and my mom found me dead, really horrible stuff. I find it interesting that this did not scared me during the trip (when I had the so called egodeath) I was at peace with it then but scared me after a bit but now I am totally fine. And my initial question: how much grams did you think that 200 liberty caps were? Maybe 3, or more, based on my trip report what do you think? And how do you find my trip?


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26698883 - 05/27/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Any help please?


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26698907 - 05/27/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hi there. Your experience sounds like it could well have been around 5-6 grams dried mushrooms. Of course, there's no way to know from the number of caps alone: there are too many variables. For example, how large the mushrooms are, how well they were dried, how well they were stored.

But sure, you might have had 5 grams worth, which (as I suspect you've read) is enough for an 'ego death' experience... from what I've read. I haven't tripped that hard yet.

Safe travels friend! :smile:


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26699210 - 05/27/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Whoever told you 25 to 35 liberty caps equalled 1g dry was making it up :cookiemonster:

Liberty caps vary wildly in size, so even a range of 10g would not cover that variability.

Having said all that, if the maths is right, you potentially took equivalent 8g dry which is more than twice the heroic dose. And with your limited experience, I can’t envisage you coming out of such a trip easily :cookiemonster:

Great trip report though, thanks for sharing.
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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26699500 - 05/27/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

8 g is not double a heroic dose. When a heroic dose is at 5g then 8g is not double. Try those maths again.


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26699533 - 05/27/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I was under the impression that with more or less potent varieties of strains & species that number can change.

5 of azures or 5 of ape or semi’s or Pan for ex vs another can be a remarkable overshoot compared to say 5gs of b+ or GT cubes.

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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26699534 - 05/27/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

He is in the UK.

And, they do use the metric system over there, maybe that’s why we end up with a different solution to our maths. :shrug:








Also, welcome to The Shroomery, funnky1207 :mushroom2:


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26699801 - 05/27/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That is correct. I neglected to remember he specified liberty caps.

Also metric system? Grams are metric already. That's a for sure. Double checked.


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    #26699827 - 05/27/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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LosTresOjos said:
8 g is not double a heroic dose. When a heroic dose is at 5g then 8g is not double. Try those maths again.



A heroic dose of liberty caps is 3.69g. Do your own maths, buddy :cookiemonster:

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Edited by DJ Ed (05/27/20 03:51 PM)


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26699873 - 05/27/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, what a trip, great report.
I would say get yourself a set of scales to be sure.


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26701374 - 05/28/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Obviously as I corrected my stance.


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26702141 - 05/28/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Plus, you knew that grams are a unit of measurement in the metric system. So, extra points for you. :thumbup:


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26710876 - 06/01/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

DJ Ed said:
Whoever told you 25 to 35 liberty caps equalled 1g dry was making it up :cookiemonster:

Liberty caps vary wildly in size, so even a range of 10g would not cover that variability.

Having said all that, if the maths is right, you potentially took equivalent 8g dry which is more than twice the heroic dose. And with your limited experience, I can’t envisage you coming out of such a trip easily :cookiemonster:

Great trip report though, thanks for sharing.
DJ Ed



Quote:

DJ Ed said:

Whoever told you 25 to 35 liberty caps equalled 1g dry was making it up :cookiemonster:

Liberty caps vary wildly in size, so even a range of 10g would not cover that variability.

Having said all that, if the maths is right, you potentially took equivalent 8g dry which is more than twice the heroic dose. And with your limited experience, I can’t envisage you coming out of such a trip easily :cookiemonster:

Great trip report though, thanks for sharing.
DJ Ed




Thank you very much guys! Next time I will take a lighter dose, I fell anxious about taking such a large dose in the close future, stay safe!


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26710915 - 06/01/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

One more question guys. Is it possible that I got very scared because during my trip I heard lots of car noises coming from outside, and people talking, and a dog was screaming from outside because he was fighting with another one and the two strangers were talking in front of my house. Could this be a reason why my peace was disturbed? I felt like they wanted to catch me or something like that, paranoid stuff.
I had stored them very good, picked them up one week before my trip, dried them very well and eat them after 4-5 days I believe. I think it does not matter if the mushrooms were dry or fresh, 200 mushrooms are still 200 dried out or fresh, right?


Edited by funnky1207 (06/01/20 10:47 AM)


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26710922 - 06/01/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Psilocin degrades while drying. Psilocybin not so much. Fresh shrooms are always a bit more potent than dried ones.
Especially noticable with psilocin-rich species like Panaeolus cyanescens.

But liberty caps contain almost no psilocin, just psilocybin and baeocystin. The difference between fresh and dry would be marginal I guess.

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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26710954 - 06/01/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I found this photos, I took them before I eat them, maybe it helps to appreciate more the dosage




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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26711176 - 06/01/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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One more question guys. Is it possible that I got very scared because during my trip I heard lots of car noises coming from outside, and people talking, and a dog was screaming from outside because he was fighting with another one and the two strangers were talking in front of my house. Could this be a reason why my peace was disturbed? I felt like they wanted to catch me or something like that, paranoid stuff.
I had stored them very good, picked them up one week before my trip, dried them very well and eat them after 4-5 days I believe. I think it does not matter if the mushrooms were dry or fresh, 200 mushrooms are still 200 dried out or fresh, right?



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funnky1207 said:
I found this photos, I took them before I eat them, maybe it helps to appreciate more the dosage







Yes that looks heroic, dude. I would aim for a quarter of that next time, roundabout 2g dry.

And second question, exactly yes. This is all part of the “setting” in “set and setting”. Any external noises, negative energy, chaos, can all upset your trip. That’s why I prefer tripping at night when it is much quieter, or in nature, many miles from civilisation.

Take care
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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26711180 - 06/01/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

And makes it fully understandable when people freak out at music festivals; I’ve seen security (x4) drag from her tent and carry out a girl screaming and freaking the fuck out on LSD, at 5am, while I was coming down from MDMA; it was a harsh come down, but not as bad as that poor girl.

Set and setting (and dose) dude :cookiemonster:


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26711199 - 06/01/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you for your time, overall I had a good experience, I freaked out when coming down but I handled it very well I would say, have a good day!


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Re: Short question about my second trip? [Re: funnky1207]
    #26711236 - 06/01/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Work up to it though,,because a heroic dose of liberty caps is a very special and very open eye visual trip. Objects actually come alive for me, move around, and interact with me (telepathically I think!). And good bs evil, god vs Satan are common themes...

Take care
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