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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
You realize there are rich people and their money can be taken from them, right?
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BANANA.MAN
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
well ideally people wouldn't be relying on only charity there would also be some personal responsibility thrown into the mix.
I think people can assess their own risk and chose whether or not they should be going to work throughout this pandemic based on their own risk factors. and if they decide not to, first they should look to themselves to try to get by, then their family, then their neighbors, then the wider local community. I don't think its good for society when people go right to the federal government for assistance.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26697870 - 05/26/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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and what is happening now is the opposite of a new deal
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koods
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26697875 - 05/26/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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also you hear about the awfulness of the industrial revolution in the cities but you dont hear about the awfulness of rural life before the industrial revolution.
Do you have a point or is this a conservative reflexive whatsboutism you have no control over?
that was a side point. but no its not what about ism. I'm saying people chose to move to the cities to get jobs during the industrial revolution. it must have been a step up or why would they flock to cities?
my point was the laws passed in response to the industrial revolution were just and I have no problem with them.
But sick leave during a pandemic is a bridge too far?
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morrowasted
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
You realize there are rich people and their money can be taken from them, right?
By whom... the government? If so, we're talking about taxation and government assistance. If not... let's say a militia forms... how does the distribution work?
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26697882 - 05/26/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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also you hear about the awfulness of the industrial revolution in the cities but you dont hear about the awfulness of rural life before the industrial revolution.
Do you have a point or is this a conservative reflexive whatsboutism you have no control over?
that was a side point. but no its not what about ism. I'm saying people chose to move to the cities to get jobs during the industrial revolution. it must have been a step up or why would they flock to cities?
my point was the laws passed in response to the industrial revolution were just and I have no problem with them.
But sick leave during a pandemic is a bridge too far?
the laws in question did not mandate that employers gave certain benefits. it merely forced them to honor the agreements they had come to with their employees and published them for not doing so.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26697889 - 05/26/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
well ideally people wouldn't be relying on only charity there would also be some personal responsibility thrown into the mix.
The personal responsibility you can throw into the mix is wearing a mask and practicing reasonable levels of social distancing.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26697890 - 05/26/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
well ideally people wouldn't be relying on only charity there would also be some personal responsibility thrown into the mix.
I think people can assess their own risk and chose whether or not they should be going to work throughout this pandemic based on their own risk factors. and if they decide not to, first they should look to themselves to try to get by, then their family, then their neighbors, then the wider local community. I don't think its good for society when people go right to the federal government for assistance.
That seems very inefficient and subject to capriciousness
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#26697897 - 05/26/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
well ideally people wouldn't be relying on only charity there would also be some personal responsibility thrown into the mix.
I think people can assess their own risk and chose whether or not they should be going to work throughout this pandemic based on their own risk factors. and if they decide not to, first they should look to themselves to try to get by, then their family, then their neighbors, then the wider local community. I don't think its good for society when people go right to the federal government for assistance.
Because it's much better to wait for people to riot and loot local businesses than to provide disaster relief. It brings people together.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Kizzle]
#26697917 - 05/26/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This whole personal freedom thing is confusing. Im told that not serving maskless customers is a violation of personal freedom but also not serving gay customers is an expression of personal freedom.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26697923 - 05/26/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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its not supposed to make sense its supposed to be divisive
you forget that these rallys are funded by the executive branch
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: Kizzle]
#26697931 - 05/26/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods
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You need to get infected so your plasma is gold
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26697955 - 05/26/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26698113 - 05/26/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
well ideally people wouldn't be relying on only charity there would also be some personal responsibility thrown into the mix.
The personal responsibility you can throw into the mix is wearing a mask and practicing reasonable levels of social distancing.
I do both of those things I'm one of the few people at my job who wears a mask.
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26698115 - 05/26/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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koods said: This whole personal freedom thing is confusing. Im told that not serving maskless customers is a violation of personal freedom but also not serving gay customers is an expression of personal freedom.
Thats not a violation of personal freedom at all. its an example of the one refusing service exercising his/her right to freedom of association.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (05/26/20 10:25 PM)
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26698142 - 05/26/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I didn't say it was. I said that it's obtuse to suggest that people can "voluntarily" choose not to work with the economy reopen. Even if such a thing were possible... you realize the economy needs workers to run right?
Yes, let's get everyone to rely on charity for their medical services, utilities, phone bills, gas, etc. That is going to go over really well 
My girlfriend's dad is a major player in a charity organization called Rotary. Charity organizations are suffering big time BECAUSE people aren't working and cannot contribute.
well ideally people wouldn't be relying on only charity there would also be some personal responsibility thrown into the mix.
I think people can assess their own risk and chose whether or not they should be going to work throughout this pandemic based on their own risk factors. and if they decide not to, first they should look to themselves to try to get by, then their family, then their neighbors, then the wider local community. I don't think its good for society when people go right to the federal government for assistance.
That seems very inefficient and subject to capriciousness
Government bureaucracy is super inneffecient and creates all kinds of perverse incentives and problems. Humanity is not getting closer to a functional society by looking to the government to take money from faceless individuals whenever someone has a problem.
once we disagree. I didnt think that would change. I was just explaining to shroomer what freedoms people are talking about that have been violated in response to the pandemic. I do not expect to convince you of my ideas about the morality or effecacy of redistributive, public programs.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26698185 - 05/26/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The freedom to not wear a mask in a store seems to be a big one, especially with the Karens. I want to know why that’s a freedom but getting served if you’re gay isn’t?
Speaking of Karens, watch this one lose her fucking mind because her doctor wouldn’t give her a hydroxychloroquine script. She says she has a right to try any drug she wants.
https://twitter.com/miarubee/status/1265344129443065856?s=21
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Re: Viral outbreak in China [Re: koods]
#26698198 - 05/26/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol, ive met a lot of opioid addicts who wish that is how it worked
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I want to know why that’s a freedom but getting served if you’re gay isn’t?
Lol
Is getting served if your straight isn’t?
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