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OfflineFlyingvibrator
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Impotent shrooms? * 1
    #26697424 - 05/26/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Greetings all,

My first attempt at growing shrooms failed, I tried from spores and a grow kit in parallel, so I was sure I'd end up with at least something, yet I didn'tπŸ˜…. (dunno why the spores failed, and the grow kit started growing on the side without me noticing for way too long, and got contaminated after that)

My second attempt are 2 grow kits, they're doing fine, got 2 flushes from both already. Each flush is about 8-9 grams dried, so it's not bad. I wanted to know how potent they were, so I ate one entire flush at once after they dried (harvested at noon, dried and ate them that evening). I expected quite much since it was 8 grams, yet they were quite the disappointment, they felt quite similar to 15g of truffles, which is half of what I usually had.

The shrooms were cubes, some strain called McKennaii. I dried them in a food dryer and they were dry as crackers when I took them. What might be the reason why they felt weak? Because 8g should've blown my socks off right? Or at least equal 30g of truffles.
Is it just bad luck, bad strain, or could it have been tolerance? Since I had 720ug of 1p 8 days before the shroom trip.

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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Flyingvibrator] * 2
    #26697528 - 05/26/20 05:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Spores are a crap shoot so potency is never guaranteed unless you have a monoculture.
Not familiar with 1p but that time frame seems plausible. I do know there is a cross tolerance between lsd and mushrooms and since 1p is an analogue of lsd it seems likely. 

Could be a bit of both.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Mad Hatter] * 1
    #26697645 - 05/26/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

As Mad Hatter said, MS potency is very variable. However, in all of my MS grows, I've never had such weak mushrooms that I could imagine taking 8g casually.

Are you on any medication?

Perhaps you have a naturally high tolerance. If you want to get more consistent doses, gather all of your mushrooms together, grind them in a coffee grinder, and encapsulate the powder. This will homogenize the batch and give you more consistent potency rather than having some that are extremely potent and others that are "bunk".

And maybe its cross tolerance, although I don't have any experience with LSD or its analogues so I can't speak from experience.1


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Socrateshroom] * 1
    #26697721 - 05/26/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Spores a crapshoot? Really? I assumed that the stores selling them got that shit down pretty decently πŸ˜…...

I was planning on trying with spores again and see how that goes.

1p acts the same as LSD, therefore cross tolerance, but I assumed that that wouldn't be a problem after a week, maybe it is tho because that was quite a decent amount of acid lol.

Nahh, not on any meds, I know that some meds don't go well together with psychedelics. But yeah, I think my tolerance is at least above average.

Grinding and making pills sounds decent, I'd probably have to eat quite a few tho. If the next attempt is bunk as well I'd give that a gi


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Flyingvibrator]
    #26697737 - 05/26/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah what they mean by spores are a crapshoot is that you can't consistently know the potency. If you harvest an isolate or monoculture, you can be fairly sure what kind of trip a eighth will give you every time you take them. However, with MS you can have an eighth that will blow you a way or an eighth that will get you tripping, but you'll still know you're on planet earth. I'm with Socrates though, unless you have a crazy tolerance or medicine interactions (which you said you didn't) even 8 g's of dried shrooms from an MS grow should have definitely been a fairly good trip. I have no idea if there is potential for cross tolerance with shrooms and LSD (and LSD analogues), but I know I've taken LSD and then shrooms roughly a week or so later with no noticeable decline from tolerance.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Gan]
    #26697749 - 05/26/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well on the bright side each flush is different also so maybe the next one will be good. Sounds like it can’t get any weaker.

I also have never had any so weak I would take 8g to start.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26697769 - 05/26/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Clone a super blue fruit. When I look for a clone I want the part where I cut to blue so intensely that the only white left is the stipe edge and the center, and it should happen in 90seconds max.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26697781 - 05/26/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah whenever you do get a good grow, you'll be somewhere between Mars and Jupiter from testing 8 g's dried haha  :trippindude:


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Gan]
    #26697900 - 05/26/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

8g IS my tester dose: it's a mistake sometimes lol


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Gan]
    #26697915 - 05/26/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm having the same issue. 4 days ago I ate 6 grams fresh and got a little body high but no trip. The next day I ate 2.5 grams dry yet again body high but no trip. And last night I ate 5 grams dry slight trip and heady high but not anywhere near what it should have been. I think I'm immune to tripping lol or the high setting on the dehydrator nuked the actives. IDK still going to try a higher dose after more Mazatapec's grow. First 3 trys were PESH strain which I've given up on.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #26697921 - 05/26/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ah maybe I'll try 8g for my next tester dose then lol:anticipation:


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #26697925 - 05/26/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

6 fresh grams is only .6g dry, dosing the following day is a waste of mushrooms imo as your tolerance builds rather quickly... wait a week and eat 3.5 DRY grams

I have dosed 46.5 dry grams in a single tea, and 100 dry geams over 22hrs... it's safe to high dose if you're in a safe environment for tripping...


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26697927 - 05/26/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Caps McGee said:
6 fresh grams is only .6g dry, dosing the following day is a waste of mushrooms imo as your tolerance builds rather quickly... wait a week and eat 3.5 DRY grams




Ok sounds like I need to wait thanks


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #26697934 - 05/26/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I've never dosed anything over about 8g dry so far. Mostly because none of my friends are experienced enough that I would trust them to trip sit me while I tripped balls off 15+ g. My gf is slowly getting to the point that I think I'll trust her enough to sit for me to take a huge dose. I'm both looking forward to and nervous as hell (in a good way) about a hero dose lol. Whenver I finally get the opportunity.

I can't imagine a 40+ g trip. Better buckle up and get ready for the ride lol


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26697938 - 05/26/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Caps McGee said:
6 fresh grams is only .6g dry, dosing the following day is a waste of mushrooms imo as your tolerance builds rather quickly... wait a week and eat 3.5 DRY grams

I have dosed 46.5 dry grams in a single tea, and 100 dry geams over 22hrs... it's safe to high dose if you're in a safe environment for tripping...




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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: ouuwee]
    #26697950 - 05/26/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not suggesting it, just sayin: DONT BE SKURD!


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: ForgottenFreshness]
    #26697965 - 05/26/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It takes about 2 weeks for psilocybin/psilocin tolerance to get close the base levels. 4 weeks is reccomend. Tolerance goes up really fast.

Ive eaten 9 grams no tolerance then the next day (camping trip others wise i wouldnt of dosed 2 days in a row) ate 18 grams (largest dose ever) and tripped hard but the visuals were no where near as detailed as the 7gs. Monoculture grow to.

Tampanensis btw. Fruits not stones.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Mad Hatter]
    #26697974 - 05/26/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, if I'm dosing regularly, a week isn't enough time for baseline, but I can typically still have a blast on a moderate dose... guess I need to give some exotica a whirl: cubes and gourmets


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Caps McGee]
    #26697985 - 05/26/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Try out tampanensis the fruits are really strong, amazing visuals, comparable to pa. Cyanescens, they fruit easily but getting condition's right  to make the fruits aesthetically pleasing or caps big enough for spore print is a learning curve, so rewarding when successful though. Plus you can harvest stones if you want.


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Re: Impotent shrooms? [Re: Mad Hatter]
    #26698068 - 05/26/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Meh... my workload doesn't really allow for projects much anymore... maybe one of these days


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