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Beyond the Unknown
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What does that mean? Is there an extra secret unknown? Are there different levels? Is the unknowable beyond the unknown?
Wait a minute! Would you not have to know something about a specific unknown BEFORE you could categorize it? That would mean it was partially known and...
Ow! My head hurts.
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As with water and ice, there is no ice without water.
Since, if “something” is apart from Mind we cannot know it - If it can be known, it is actually a potential part of Mind. That is how I reconcile the dilemma. If we say Mind contains the potential to know all things, than that leaves room for the known known, known unknown, & unknown unknown.
Beyond unknown sounds like a lot like unknown unknown to me.
If only we could access the original instruction manual & blue print to this “thingy” that is currently writing this via repeatedly hitting little plastic buttons with squiggly symbols on them- in a specific sequence- so as to make what your currently reading to act like a secret transmission conveying a message legible only to another “thingy” just like the former “thingy”- yet different....we might be able to remember 
(For shits & giggles b/c it is now officially 3:46am ...). Ahem*
I wrote this message in the present. And when you read it, you will do so in the present. However, from your present my present will be perceived as the past. And in my present- as of this message what I perceive as your future reading of this will be considered your present.
But the present is always here & now because the here & now is always already present...So what do you think is doing the funny with time?!
funny isn’t it ?!
And Forgive the grammar you heathens, this is my 1 PS&P shit post for the day.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (05/26/20 01:59 AM)
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OrgoneConclusion said: What does that mean? Is there an extra secret unknown? Are there different levels? Is the unknowable beyond the unknown?
Wait a minute! Would you not have to know something about a specific unknown BEFORE you could categorize it? That would mean it was partially known and...
Ow! My head hurts.

Gäté Gäté Paragäté Parasamgäté Bodhi Svaha - Gone, Gone, Gone Beyond, Gone Beyond Beyond, Hail the Goer.
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O Shariputra! ... you’re making me blush...
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it's more than too much to consider
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Diploid wrote God is unknowable and he didn't joke.
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26696738 - 05/26/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pinkerton said: Diploid wrote God is unknowable and he didn't joke.
In that context Pinkerton is unknowable except by the clues he provides.
Clues form ideas.
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If I was God I would get that girl I'm into.
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26696871 - 05/26/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pinkerton said: If I was God I would get that girl I'm into.
Couple desire with cause&effect and time plus whatever other obstacles exist, and we can form a thesis on the nature of reality.
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26696879 - 05/26/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why would the most powerful being in existence want to fuck a female ape on an insignificant planet?
This does not compute!
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Ergo, I'm not God. But I hope to become one.
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26696943 - 05/26/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hope is not a method for achieving anything, but keep doing what does not work.
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I just don't understand why there can't be more fun on my journey.
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some female apes are extremely cute. C U T E and H O T, specially when they shave their legs and put lipstick.
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26697040 - 05/26/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pinkerton said: I just don't understand why there can't be more fun on my journey. 
That is certainly Beyond The Unknown!
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OrgoneConclusion said: Why would the most powerful being in existence want to fuck a female ape on an insignificant planet?
This does not compute! 
If you distill reality down, you end up with a relationship with God (or whatever authority over your existence you accept as having God-like power)
Therefore the relationship is paramount. In your own godlike position a relationship with an ape is your business. Injecting contempt into the proposition is natural because (imo) contempt and sadism are natural products of existence (children display sadism and contempt at an early age)
So the question of how a powerful being would carry on a relationship thru eternity is neither here nor there, they will conduct themselves however they please within the construct they recognize as reality.
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If Jesus asked my permission to let everyone treat everyone else as they themselves would like to be treated, I'd say sure, because sadism and contempt will win out in the end.
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you are beyond the unknown already
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So, infinity is a real thing that exists in math, but did you know that there is a whole category of "numbers" that exist beyond infinity? And then, after that whole category of numbers that are beyond infinity, there is another category of numbers beyond that.
That's what beyond the unknown makes me think of.
Also I think a lot of stuff exists that we're just not smart enough as a species to understand yet. Like trying to explain calculus to an ant, there is stuff that is so far beyond our current level of intelligence that we probably can't even properly conceive of it.
Edited by nooneman (05/26/20 05:46 PM)
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: nooneman]
#26697732 - 05/26/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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there is stuff that is so far beyond our current level of intelligence that we probably can't even properly conceive of it.
How a woman's mind works, for example.
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: nooneman]
#26700496 - 05/27/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Like trying to explain calculus to an ant, there is stuff that is so far beyond our current level of intelligence that we probably can't even properly conceive of it.
That is exactly how I feel when I try to "understand it all" on my DMT flights. I am the ant trying to learn calculus. And so I give up and say that it's all magic, and by God, it really seems like a bunch of nonsense when I am there.
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Life as is, without drugs, is beyond the unknown. My day to day life is the real trip. Beyond out of this world. Psychs just reemphasize it.
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so the consensus might be that we like to use the phrase "beyond the unknown" to describe our most stupefied states of mind.
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The cardshark himself wants me to fail and it's been like this for 7+ years. The latest stuff now is me trying to flirt with a woman but I have no clue what I'm doing. It's fucking ridiculus.
"You don't need a wingman", my ass.
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Mental torture.
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The mighty Pinkerton is 30 years old today. Where is my present?
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26703385 - 05/29/20 03:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here,
Happy birthday you goober. 🎁
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there is stuff that is so far beyond our current level of intelligence that we probably can't even properly conceive of it.
How a woman's mind works, for example. 
In ameliorating their guilt for their part in Original Sin they cultivate contempt in you. They respond well to contempt I hear.
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What's in the giftbox?
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26703617 - 05/29/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pinkerton said: What's in the giftbox? 
The choice to become young and appreciative or to continue on being old and jaded. (LOL)
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Re: Beyond the Unknown [Re: Pinkerton]
#26704125 - 05/29/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pinkerton said: The mighty Pinkerton is 30 years old today. Where is my present? 
I also have recently turned 30. It’s pretty tight. Past the folly of the 20s now armed with infinite wisdom.
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gaaad, at 30 (1981) I knew nothing except how to have babies, build houses, and at face value at least, how the mind works; but really I understood nothing, and still have to work it work it work it.
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like that
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redgreenvines said: gaaad, at 30 (1981) I knew nothing except how to have babies, build houses, and at face value at least, how the mind works; but really I understood nothing, and still have to work it work it work it.
Nice age difference there.
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