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OfflineCatsLoveHouseMusic
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Looking to buy first handgun for defense
    #26695972 - 05/25/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So Ive been debating on buying my first gun for a year or two. Id like to buy a handgun where I can go and shoot at targets to practice without spending a ton on ammo if possible. Mu buddy was showing me one and it costs like 600$, I dont want anything shitty but that seems like the going rate for quality or no?


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26695984 - 05/25/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It just seems like a lot for a gun, but its something youd want to be quality. I was initially trying to only spend like 300$, but was shown ones costing upwards of 500$. Cheaper ones were like hipoint (I know nothing about guns.)


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26695996 - 05/26/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You’re going to want to look at handguns from manufacturers like Canik and Tanfoglio. Also some good Walther and Smith & Wesson offerings. Steyr makes a really good model of handgun as well, I forget the name of it though. There’s a lot of options that are competitive to Glock that are much cheaper. Lots of great CZ-75 knock-offs as well, since Czechoslovakia didn’t have patent laws being a Communist nation at the time of the CZ-75’s creation.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Ryan_Spalding2727]
    #26696000 - 05/26/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The Smith & Wesson SD9 is almost the exact same gun as a Glock, just FYI, but much closer in your price range.

Oh, and Ruger makes great value offerings as well.

My suggestion is to go to a few well-stocked gun stores, look around in your price range, and ask to handle things that catch your eye. Join some online gun forums as well and learn a bit about the subject too; like any other industry, there are truths and there is also hype bs.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Ryan_Spalding2727] * 1
    #26696034 - 05/26/20 12:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Taurus G2c sounds like a good option for you.
9mm is fairly inexpensive for going out on the range and plinking, and is an excellent defensive cartridge.
This one at Buds is $249
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/100792 Have it shipped right to a FFL near you.

I've heard nothing but good things about this line of taurus hanguns.


The comments in this video are pretty convincing as well. Look around

I own a PT92 from Taurus and it has been rock solid reliable. I got mine on sale for $300 even, and its a handgun which I would also recommend, but they are quite a bit more expensive nowadays. And difficult to carry if you should choose to go that route. The G2c is a compact handgun as apposed to the full size of the PT92

Don't forget about buying used. Plenty of quality handguns can be had for much less expensive prices simply because they've been previously owned.

This site as well as others regularly has batches of historic old military surplus handguns and vintage police trade ins for very reasonable prices. Old models that have been proven by various militaries and agencies. Make sure you consider the prices of the caliber it uses and availability of parts too.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/smith-and-wesson-5906-good-hg1806g/ My old man has an old smith and wesson like this and it is a great firearm. All metal too, if you shy away from the polymer.

Many used revolvers available too at reasonable prices as well. .38 special is a very cheap cartridge, and the reliably and simplicity of a wheel gun is unparalleled, been used for damn near a century by the po-po. Lots of hot +p defensive ammo varieties, makes them formidable defensive cartridges.

I carry a S&W 638 in my pocket in a de santis holster with 125 grain BJHP Remington Golden Saber 38 special +p ammo. I'm satisfied with it.


I HIGHLY RECCOMEND THIS CHANNEL. Paul Harrel has a wealth of knowledge, and I suggest watching videos that might pertain to your particular circumstances. I always come away learning something I didn't know.
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Good Luck, Be safe, and be sure to check back with us to share when you decided on.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26696046 - 05/26/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

get a fuckin glock bro.. might be a little more expensive but its one of the best platforms to learn on... there are So many different variations and its mainly chambered in 9mm which is a cheaper more manageable caliber while maintaining decent accuracy.. but one of the coolest features about the glock is its stock compatibility. If your state/country allows it you can buy 'chassis' for the glock which basically transforms it from a pistol to a PDW with a stock which obviously provides more stable shots. Its all around one of the best piatols.. don't waste your time on other platforms if you want accuracy and reliability and a universal platform pick the glock


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Isaiahkiki]
    #26696057 - 05/26/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Glock.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26696158 - 05/26/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I bought my dad a Ruger 380ACP and it cost me under 300 out the door. I've been thinking of picking up one for myself. Handguns by and large will be more than your avarage rifle. If your looking for something like a conceal carry or self defence get the ACP. If you want to get into marksmanship for fun or maybe hunt at some point get a rifle.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26696474 - 05/26/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

44 Magnum


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Cracked Egg]
    #26696510 - 05/26/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What are you defending yourself against?


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #26696538 - 05/26/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You know, boogiemen, zombies, home invaders and such.
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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #26696544 - 05/26/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Bad dreams.

I would only buy Glock if I ever needed a gun.

My friends here all seem to vote shotgun for home defense though.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26696578 - 05/26/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have a 9mm ruger for my conceal carry. Got it for $249 at the gun shop :thumbup:


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26696601 - 05/26/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ive got a ruger LC9 for carry.

Nothing to write home about but it will do the job,

As far as home defense goes, get a shotgun.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: SARAtonin]
    #26696622 - 05/26/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. It's meant for close range. And as for home defense get 2 shotguns :awehigh:

Edit: mine is the ec9s and I have the extended clip which I love way more than the stock mag.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: spirit_shadow] * 3
    #26696694 - 05/26/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I use dual Desert Eagles in Call of Duty, works pretty well


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26696741 - 05/26/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Shotgun for home defense definitely isn’t “wrong”, per se, but is often misunderstood. Lots of people get the idea that you don’t need to aim hardly as much with one indoors due to the “spread”, but the truth is that at short distances, like in a home, there will hardly be any discernible spread whatsoever, and you’ll need to aim just as much as you would with anything else.

Also, Taurus can be a good value, IF you get one without any defects. They’re one of, if not the, largest manufacturer of firearms in the world, so generally their stuff is good to go, but there are documented cases of them churning out lemons from time to time. If you’re considering a Taurus, I suggest buying one locally that you can personally check out and function check. And try to stay away from Bud’s. Their pricing can be enticing at times but I assure you they are a scummy company to deal with. Go to YouTube and check out a channel called TheYankeeMarshal and see what he has to say about Bud’s; you’ll see what I mean.

I’m coming off of an infusion as we speak, so if any of this is worded oddly my apologies.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Ryan_Spalding2727]
    #26696754 - 05/26/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

And stay away from pocket pistols for your first firearm. Go either full-size or compact, but not sub-compact/pocket. Their small size makes for an unpleasant shooting experience both in feel and in accuracy results.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Ryan_Spalding2727] * 2
    #26696763 - 05/26/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Wow!

Look at all the cowards who are afraid to leave their homes without a gun.

I've lived in some rough neighborhoods in my day and never felt so afraid that I wanted to run out and buy a fucking handgun.

Needing a gun to walk the streets is the sign of a true chickenshit coward.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jailbird420]
    #26696780 - 05/26/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Fuckin Troll


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jailbird420] * 3
    #26696785 - 05/26/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Wow!

Look at all the cowards who are afraid to leave their homes without a gun.

I've lived in some rough neighborhoods in my day and never felt so afraid that I wanted to run out and buy a fucking handgun.

Needing a gun to walk the streets is the sign of a true chickenshit coward.




Must be nice to be a man. :rolleyes:


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26696799 - 05/26/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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So Ive been debating on buying my first gun for a year or two. Id like to buy a handgun where I can go and shoot at targets to practice without spending a ton on ammo if possible. Mu buddy was showing me one and it costs like 600$, I dont want anything shitty but that seems like the going rate for quality or no?





Sounds like you need a 9mm/.45 and a .22LR that is similar in dimensions to it, for practice shooting.


You'll become the target of heated debate if you buy a Glock, and the target of bitter ridicule if you buy a Hi-point. You can't go wrong with a glock but the ridicule of buying a Hi-point can kill a man :P


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26696811 - 05/26/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Sounds like you need a 9mm/.45 and a .22LR that is similar in dimensions to it, for practice shooting.



I've only been at a gun range once, but the difference between shooting .38 and .45 is huge, I can't imagine training with a .22 and then having to use .45 is a good idea, is it?


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jailbird420]
    #26696818 - 05/26/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Wow!

Look at all the cowards who are afraid to leave their homes without a gun.

I've lived in some rough neighborhoods in my day and never felt so afraid that I wanted to run out and buy a fucking handgun.

Needing a gun to walk the streets is the sign of a true chickenshit coward.



With shit going as bad as it is here, and the lax attitude people are taking towards the virus I'm seriously considering getting an illegal one (a legal one is practically useless here, a lawyer friend of mine had trouble defending a client of his who used a knife to defend against a gun wielding thug). A blacksmith that I know has apparently been doing work at some malls to prep them for looters, and I don't think private citizens will be safe either.

You guys are lucky to have gun rights, exercise them if you can!


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26696824 - 05/26/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If you shoot lots with a .22 you know how to aim.

If you shoot a few times with your lethal caliber gun you'll appreciate the recoil.

Most people drop like a brick if you double-tap aimed.

Learning to handle recoil is 1 thing, learning to aim another, that takes a lot more bullets.


Suppose you land an aimed one of these in a person's central body mass (or head if you're a gamer)



You will be better able to handle the recoil than your assailant.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jailbird420]
    #26697119 - 05/26/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don’t say this with any hostility, but I don’t think you understand where people who choose to carry are coming from... With the exception of the idiotic few who inhabit all groups, people don’t carry and/or choose to buy a handgun out of “fear”. It’s a very nuanced, multi-faceted topic, just like the one that this website revolves around. For starters, look at it like a type of insurance policy. Normal, everyday people don’t get insurance because they’re afraid to leave the house otherwise. They get insurance for when “shit goes wrong”. They’re not expecting for it to do so at any second, but it would be foolish to assume that rarity of occurrence is equal to non-existence. You carry insurance as a way to help soften the blow, when and if, something bad were to happen. It’s not like robbery, assault, car-jacking, kidnapping, etc. etc., is completely unheard of and non-existent. Yes, we do have police to hopefully help deter crime, but more often they respond to crime instead. It never hurts to be able to stand on your own two feet, push come to shove. And that’s only one aspect of this topic.

I hope you continue to experience the same level of safety that you have so far in life. I truly mean that. I wish you nothing but the best.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante]
    #26697131 - 05/26/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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CatsLoveHouseMusic said:
So Ive been debating on buying my first gun for a year or two. Id like to buy a handgun where I can go and shoot at targets to practice without spending a ton on ammo if possible. Mu buddy was showing me one and it costs like 600$, I dont want anything shitty but that seems like the going rate for quality or no?








You'll become the target of heated debate if you buy a Glock, and the target of bitter ridicule if you buy a Hi-point. You can't go wrong with a glock but the ridicule of buying a Hi-point can kill a man :P




LOL! Those are quite the true words Asante. Nothing like a single stack 9mm that weighs as much as a brick, and still manages to have a relatively flimsy slide due to the zemak(pot metal) construction... Beats the pants off of nothing at all though.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Ryan_Spalding2727] * 1
    #26697340 - 05/26/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Don't feed the trolls Ryan...


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26697730 - 05/26/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)




Here's Demolition Ranch trying their best to hate on the Hi-point and to their horror finding it has fair shooting characteristics:




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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26697827 - 05/26/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I am hardcore progressive liberal, a Democratic Socialist if you will.  I believe in gun ownership.  I wish we could get some sensible legislation down that doesn't infringe on the 2nd Amendment but also reduces the number of guns we have in this country (in a voluntary way).  I don't know the solutions, but I do ignoring those with vested interests in this is a good place to start.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Ice9]
    #26697910 - 05/26/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for all the advice guys, I genuinely appreciate it. I didnt realize you could get popular named guns for pretty cheap. I want a gun because I have a family, and I want to go shooting ay a range and at friends houses. Id like a full size, but something that could be carried if one wanted. Im going to do some reading and report back tonight. Again, thank you.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26697943 - 05/26/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Bad dreams.

I would only buy Glock if I ever needed a gun.

My friends here all seem to vote shotgun for home defense though.




:thumbup: Can't beat a good spread!


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: vinsue] * 2
    #26697949 - 05/26/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You know, boogiemen, zombies, home invaders and such.
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Home invasions only happen to drug dealers. If you shoot someone in defense of your illegal drug stash you are a criminal. I guess you can maybe get off if you are white but if you are black or Hispanic its a drug rip off gone bad not a case of self defense in a home invasion.

I think guns for self defense is retarded as most wanna be Charlie Bronsons end up shooting their family members because you thought it was an ethnic minority breaking in to rape your white wife with his large possibly uncircumcised penis. A lot of "whoops your family member is dead" and not that many hero stories. Seems a very American thing to believe in, that you will save the day you good guy with a gun. Personally if I hear a bump in the night I grab a bat to go investigate, like a normal person. Grabbing a gun is so over the top, it's crazy. I would hate to be that scared of life that I need to hide behind a gun.

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    #26697982 - 05/26/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have a gun because I like guns. I like shooting guns for fun. I've never shot at anyone and I hope I never have to.


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    #26699090 - 05/27/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good point Asante! Handling air arms did help me have half decent aim and trigger discipline when I actually had a firearm in my hands.

I don't get why people hate on Hi Point so much, for the price they seem like a very good option. If they can take that much abuse and still shoot straight it's worth considering. That being said, I'm not sure I'd like to put my life in its hands when it comes down to defending myself.


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    #26699272 - 05/27/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)


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You know, boogiemen, zombies, home invaders and such.
:paranoid: . . . :peace:




Home invasions only happen to drug dealers. If you shoot someone in defense of your illegal drug stash you are a criminal. I guess you can maybe get off if you are white but if you are black or Hispanic its a drug rip off gone bad not a case of self defense in a home invasion.

I think guns for self defense is retarded as most wanna be Charlie Bronsons end up shooting their family members because you thought it was an ethnic minority breaking in to rape your white wife with his large possibly uncircumcised penis. A lot of "whoops your family member is dead" and not that many hero stories. Seems a very American thing to believe in, that you will save the day you good guy with a gun. Personally if I hear a bump in the night I grab a bat to go investigate, like a normal person. Grabbing a gun is so over the top, it's crazy. I would hate to be that scared of life that I need to hide behind a gun.

I will admit I was wrong on gun control on zombie day though




Cool story, nobody gives a fuck.





OP get a Glock and be done with it lol.  Could probably get a gen 3 or 4 for pretty cheap and its a reliable gun.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26699331 - 05/27/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

are you looking to get a manual safety?

I don’t think glock really has one? Could be wrong, maybe they have a model
I am not familiar but Glocks safety system seems really strange.
No manual safety but a trigger lever-actuated passive safety.

I think glock would be a good choice, carrying in a proper holster and good training would be vital.
I am currently looking at Sigs 365. Glock like but has a manual safety and solid good reviews.
I really like the size of it too but the price of the mags are up there. Glocks mags are Cheap.

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Atreyu]
    #26699350 - 05/27/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Right no safety on the glock except the passive trigger safety.

Kept in a proper holster shouldn't ever be a problem.  I agree going and trying some guns is probably the best way to see whats comfortable


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Herbologist]
    #26699361 - 05/27/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I learned how to break bones so I can leave the scene after defending myself.

OP: you want an xds chambered in 9mm


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    #26699389 - 05/27/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

also a good option i know a few people with that gun


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    #26699538 - 05/27/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The decision to purchase a gun should not be made lightly. If you're serious about getting one you do want a gun that will go "bang" as required, so it's not an item you should skimp on. Any of the big name manufacturers will do. Purchase through a dealer as they usually have return policies in case you encounter glitches. Factory refurbished are less expensive and often just as good as new. The important thing is finding a size and caliber that fit your body type.  I carry either a Walther PPK-S .380 or a Sig 225/P6 9 mm on those rare occasions when I feel the need. Either will provide sufficient firepower, especially when loaded with Hydra-Shok hollow points. You probably don't need a big gun with a high capacity magazine. My Sig holds 9 rounds (8 in the magazine and 1 in the tube) so I just carry an extra magazine. If you feel that you need more than that then you're probably hanging out with the wrong crowd. You should also plan to train regularly with your weapon as shooting is a losable skill. Most gunfights take place within a distance of about 7 yards so you don't need to train much beyond that. Get in the habit of cleaning your weapon after each trip to the range. Also plan on getting a gun safe. Biometric safes provide quick access and you can pick one up for $100-200.

All things considered gun ownership is a big responsibility. You will likely never have to use it defensively but if you do proper training will definitely give you the edge. Consider taking a course on tactical shooting and know the gun laws in your state well. These things are often covered in concealed carry courses.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Intrepid]
    #26699687 - 05/27/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Grungeman17]
    #26700132 - 05/27/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I learned how to break bones so I can leave the scene after defending myself.

OP: you want an xds chambered in 9mm



BJJ is great, except when they come at you with a knife. Then you want a gun.

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26700140 - 05/27/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I’m a the first to say a 38 revolver?

Reliable - easy to use and understand

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    #26700213 - 05/27/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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    #26700228 - 05/27/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Am I the first to say saave 1000$ and dont buy a gun?


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You would rather him gamble it wouldn't you


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26700416 - 05/27/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

$600 is around the medium value side. Sub $100 to $300 is like the low end, $400-$800 is around the mid ground. Once you start approaching $1k youre getting the to higher end. Of course theres the super high end thats up in the $3000-$5000 range.

If you just want something for personal defense, and dont need something pretty, Id look at a Glock, a Smith and Wesson M&P, or a Rugar SR. But theres a lot of others.

Ive seen the Smith and Wesson SD mentioned, Id stay away from that one personally. I owned one of the .40 versions, and hated it. Couldnt hit the broad side of a barn with it, even at just 10 yards. Had a lot of "slop" to it. Just not a good gun.

One of my favorite handguns for the $500ish mark was my CZ P-07 Duty. Loved that pistol. Smooth as butter, tight fit, and I could put up some nice groups at 25 or 30 yards.

But theres a lot of decent pistols made these days for the $400-$600 price point. Id say go to a gun shop when you can, ask to hold a few, see what fits best in your hand. You gotta find something that fits good in your hand and is easy for you to operate.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Thrill]
    #26700447 - 05/27/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

am i the first to say move to canada so you dont have to worry about 3rd world probs?


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: cannabinated]
    #26700873 - 05/28/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Glocks are overpriced for what they are.  If I’m carrying I don’t want a gun in my pants where I’m relying on a trigger safety.  Especially around my kid.  One of my Glocks was traded for an ar and my other one hasn’t left the safe in 4 years.  I carry a Kimber or a XD.    1911s are nice because it has the thumb safety and grip safety, the XD is nice because it has a trigger and grip safety.  1911 would be my first choice.  XD would be my second, I have two that I rotate between.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Pupenhause]
    #26700878 - 05/28/20 04:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The German Imperial caliber (the standard 9mm Luger, 9x19mm Parabelum of 1902) is efficient and ubiquitous. A .45 ACP packs twice the wallop but then recoil becomes an issue and its "twice the wallop that should get the job done if you aim properly."

What I saw recommended is to buy a good second hand handgun from a reputable dealer.

Like a good used car, just a much value for the money for half the price.


.38 special used to be the cop caliber but they switched to the German Imperial caliber because analysis of shootings showed higher efficiency. A 9mm Luger pumps 1.5-2x as many joules of impact energy in a target as a .38 Special, 3-4x as much as an arrow from an English Longbow (140 J)





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Under STANAG 4090, it is a standard cartridge for NATO forces as well as many non-NATO countries.[9]

According to the 2014 edition of Cartridges of the World, the 9×19mm Parabellum is "the world's most popular and widely used military handgun and submachine gun cartridge."[10][11] In 2007, Newsweek claimed that "about 60 percent of the firearms in use by police are 9mms" and credited 9×19mm Parabellum pistol sales with making semiautomatic pistols more popular than revolvers.[12] The popularity of this cartridge can be attributed to the widely held conviction that it is effective in police and self-defense use.[13] Its low cost and wide availability contribute to the caliber's continuing popularity.





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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: cannabinated]
    #26701188 - 05/28/20 08:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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am i the first to say move to canada so you dont have to worry about 3rd world probs?



Canada: where an armed robber can break into your home, you shoot them with your legally owned firearm and YOU go to jail.

I love the country, but it's got some weird gun laws, which is weird to me from a self reliability stand point in a country where nature seems out to get you 6 months out of the year and there are many small towns with homesteads hours away from any official help.


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    #26701257 - 05/28/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If NATO standardizes 9mm, it is most popular with police and consumers, there is a message here.

You may think of NATO what you like but if they standardize something, the science is there.

Take this dagger for instance, the only dagger that is NATO milspec:





You can tell that this Fairbairn-Sykes dagger is optimized to do what its supposed to do, without a single frill or milligram too many.


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    #26701288 - 05/28/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
am i the first to say move to canada so you dont have to worry about 3rd world probs?



Canada: where an armed robber can break into your home, you shoot them with your legally owned firearm and YOU go to jail.




Not necessarily. It might be found to be self defense or it might not, depending on the circumstances.


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    #26701386 - 05/28/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It's 2020, there's so many good fuckin guns out now it's crazy.  Just get something in 9mm and train with it, get comfortable.  Glock 19 has my vote.  Put a light on whatever it is you get.  You can't go wrong buying 99% of modern pistols.

Don't cheap out, save a little longer and buy a quality pistol you will have for the rest of your life. 


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: PreparationH]
    #26701514 - 05/28/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Im trying to read up on how the guns differentiate, but theres so many differences between them all it seems. Im thinking a 9mm, sounds like .45 ACP has more recoil as well... but I wonder exactly how much. I read that 1911s jam the most, a vastly high percentage of people reported that supposedly.

I have a kid, and will be EXTREMELY cautious and safe about it, but I need something that is legit. Ive read all your comments, so many different guns. I went on a gun forum, and some people said the glock is a more so a basic gun. Nothing special, but its not shitty either. I need to go and try some out.


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    #26701520 - 05/28/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for all the comments guys, seriously. Im not scared, this is more so for the off chance I MAY need it and I worry about some revolution/government collapse type thing as well. I dont wear a tinfoil hat, but I keep tinfoil in my pocket type of deal.


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    #26701782 - 05/28/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

.45 ACP will cost more to shoot at $380 per 1000 bullets vs 9mm costing $245 for 1000.  There's really no reason not to get a 9mm imo and you will put defensive rounds in it anyway.


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    #26701847 - 05/28/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante]
    #26701857 - 05/28/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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If NATO standardizes 9mm, it is most popular with police and consumers, there is a message here.

You may think of NATO what you like but if they standardize something, the science is there.

Take this dagger for instance, the only dagger that is NATO milspec:





You can tell that this Fairbairn-Sykes dagger is optimized to do what its supposed to do, without a single frill or milligram too many.


I'd go with 9mm.




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    #26701895 - 05/28/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I prefer 9mm too. Most 9mm pistols will hold 17+ rounds. A 1911 only holds 7. I always liked the idea of having more shots rather than having some more power. 9mm is plenty powerful to drop someone with proper shot placement, especially using good hollowpoint ammo (may or may not be legal in your state).


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    #26702024 - 05/28/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I actually also believe you would be better off with a shoulderable weapon though, if it's for home defense.  Shotgun... Dude drop 3k and buy the new H&K SP5, the civilian MP5 in semi-auto lol.




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    #26702037 - 05/28/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If its for home defense, yea you cant beat a good shotgun lol. Just the sound alone of racking the action is enough to make most intruders shit their pants and run away, and aint nobody gonna get back up after taking a 1 oz slug to the torso.


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    #26702132 - 05/28/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Where can I get a nato dagger?!





Its called a Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife.

MILSPEC is the version without manufacturer logos. That takes a lil websearching.

If you want one thats just as good, just has a little symbol of the manufacturer, I can highly recommend the M.O.D (Ministry Of Defence)  issue version by J Nowill & Sons, such as sold here.

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    #26702152 - 05/28/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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  There's really no reason not to get a 9mm imo and you will put defensive rounds in it anyway.




Exactly.  Some +P federal hollows are gonna get the job done.

Plus, the glock 19 double stack mag you can carry so many rounds.



OP, Glock 19 are simple and not the greatest ergonomics but honestly a good gun and holds a lot of rounds.

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    #26702156 - 05/28/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Glocks are ugly as all sin, and feel too "boxy" for me, but youd be hard pressed to find a more reliable gun design. If youre gonna bet your life on a handgun, you cant go wrong with a Glock. Itll go bang everytime you pull the trigger.


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    #26702177 - 05/28/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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    #26702233 - 05/28/20 04:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Taran Tactical LOVES glock and IMO that says something.






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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante]
    #26702258 - 05/28/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Check out hickcox 45 on YouTube. He’s reviewed probably close to every gun you can think of and he does a profoundly awesome job at breaking down each weapon and going over the pros and cons.
You will learn a lot of practical knowledge about any firearm he reviews and it’s relevant information even a new gun purchaser will appreciate.

I really can’t empathize anymore how awesome his channel is without sounding crazy.

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Atreyu]
    #26702663 - 05/28/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have a long barrel on my .45 ACP shooting +p, runs like a sewing machine. It is bulky but I am accustomed and I am a large frame guy.

I think that caliber doesnt matter here in your case. What matters is what you are used to and what you become good with.

My advice is to pick one common caliber, for whatever reason you deem fit, and stick to it.

Edit: Brands..
In my opinion:
Ruger & Taurus are the ford escorts. Cheap garbage. They'll work, but god knows for how long. Revolvers are good.

Glocks are like the Toyota of guns, they are affordable and reliable without the bells and whistles, and there are tons of aftermarket parts.
I personally cant get over their square frame.

FN, Sig Sauer, XDM are all good guns that look cooler and feel better than a Glock, but it is hit or miss on dependability. This is the group I hang with. I usually have to do some tweaking and part exchanging until I feel confident with them.

Then you have Kimber. Like a Lamborghini, never had one, but they look cool and I hear nothing but good things.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: LikeMyc]
    #26702875 - 05/28/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ive heard bad things about Kimbers. Never had one myself, but I have a friend whose had a couple, and Ive read tons of negative stuff about them. Lot of quality and reliability issues.

If were doin car metaphors, I guess Kimber is like a Ford Escort thats had the body made to look like a Lambourghini. Looks nice on the outside, but still drives like shit. Ed Browns and Dan Wessons and Wilsons are the real Lambos of the 1911 world :lol:


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Thrill]
    #26702924 - 05/28/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Patlal]
    #26703619 - 05/29/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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What are you defending yourself against?



Look at Minneapolis.  That's good enough reason to own a firearm in the USA lol.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: PreparationH]
    #26703632 - 05/29/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The most hot & horny handgun I can think of, if you have lots of cash to burn, is the FN Five-seveN which shoots a miniature necked magnum bullet at high velocity that impacts like a rifle cartridge and, is very penetrating.




Look at those fucking cartridges! The FN Five-seveN holds 20 of them in the non-extended magazine. There are vest-busting rounds for it but they are outlawed because the cops shat their pants at the capacity of such a gun, that weighs about a pound and a half loaded.

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante]
    #26703654 - 05/29/20 07:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

.48 cents per round minimal, oof.  NOPE lol.  If ya have that sort of money though, I get it.


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    #26703705 - 05/29/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Did you notice the "if you have lots of cash to burn" part?

Its very expensive at the range but superb in a self defense situation. You can double tap TEN TIMES on a standard magazine still within the hand grip.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Asante]
    #26703723 - 05/29/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

im more worried of the storm troopers than anything else

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    #26703733 - 05/29/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: PreparationH]
    #26703748 - 05/29/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

As an owner ov a 327 mag, i hear that about round cost if you do'nt reload!  I can shoot 5 different calibers with it, but they're all pretty expensive :tongue:.

5.7's only real advantage over 9 is armor defeating.  Why would one need that for home/personal defense though?  Well okay, raids, i get it.  Extra capacity, yes, but is there really a huge advantage ov 20 vs 15-17 or so?  Kinda cool but i'd personally like a 7.62x25 if i wanted something like that.

Glocks are USUALLY reliable.  A friend ov mine has had several breakages with his 27, and i think his 23 as well(both 40s&w).  The reliability goes down with the 40/10/45 models it seems.

I do'nt think it's fair to call Ruger and Taurus the Ford Escorts or cheap garbage.  There's not many escorts still on the road and those that do have low mileage since they drop  a valve seat before 150k miles, usually before 120k actually.  Yet there's hordes ov rugers and Taurus handguns still about.  Ruger in particular is known for having the best customer service if something goes wrong(that cant be said for Ford!) and their revolvers have legendary strength.  Some boutique ammo makers have ruger only loads in some calibers actually.  Taurus is known as being hit or miss but there's certainly fans.  I do'nt know off the top ov my head, but there's an era ov Taurus where their build quality was top notch.

Personally my choice for personal defense is a ruger lcr in 327 and for home, the lcr or an ak in 7.62 loaded with 8m3 would be my first go-tos.  Hopefully i'll never get to shoot them inside as i enjoy my hearing!  327 is louder than 357.  What did i choose for my first handgun for defense?  An Uberti 1860 colt army repro!  I still have that around and loaded with .454 ball over 28-30 grains ov FFF black if i need it lol! 


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Thrill]
    #26703789 - 05/29/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Glocks are ugly as all sin, and feel too "boxy" for me, but youd be hard pressed to find a more reliable gun design. If youre gonna bet your life on a handgun, you cant go wrong with a Glock. Itll go bang everytime you pull the trigger.




I'm the farthest thing in the world from an expert, but everything I've ever read said revolvers are more reliable than auto's. So it won't go bang everytime you pull the trigger. But it probably will unless you never clean it.


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    #26703953 - 05/29/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

5.7 is huge but reliable. The secret service used to carry them.


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    #26703971 - 05/29/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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The most hot & horny handgun I can think of, if you have lots of cash to burn, is the FN Five-seveN which shoots a miniature necked magnum bullet at high velocity that impacts like a rifle cartridge and, is very penetrating.




Look at those fucking cartridges! The FN Five-seveN holds 20 of them in the non-extended magazine. There are vest-busting rounds for it but they are outlawed because the cops shat their pants at the capacity of such a gun, that weighs about a pound and a half loaded.

Watch this amazing 5.7mm custom round fuck with ballistics gel:






That is a sick gun. .22lr rounds can also penetrate vests :themoreyouknow:


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    #26704001 - 05/29/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

We don't know what scenario we will find ourselves in. So why limit the possible use of our gun?

When against someone with a rifle who is using distance against me, i'd wish to have the long range, flat trajectory of the 5.7 over the 9 , 40, 45 any day. I don't see how the 5.7 could not replace the other cartridges at short ranges as well.

If you live in a gang infested neighborhood like the streets of Chicago you will run into this s*** vs if you live out in the country in Georgia you may never see this type of situation and wonder why someone would have such a gun.

And if you think about school shootings you almost always see them with long guns. Having a 5.7 in your pocket is a great advantage there.

Ted Kennedy exchanged his 9 for an FN 5.7 and has his arguments with more combat experience than most of any human currently alive, and he is still active last time I checked.

I was going to get this gun last year and I think I just convinced myself to make it happen now. :lol: Thanks Asante.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: LikeMyc]
    #26704081 - 05/29/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I was going to get this gun last year and I think I just convinced myself to make it happen now. :lol: Thanks Asante.





Happy for you, its the one I'd want if I had a firearms license :sun:

You are right about the flat trajectory and all that but even if you are completely in the dark about firearm specifics, LOOK AT THAT DAMN CARTRIDGE:




You see a slender, highly conical bullet mounted on a necked FAT cartridge, which means that there is a whole lot of powder, and thus power and velocity, behind that bullet.

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    #26704411 - 05/29/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I saw an ad for Ruger 380s recently that were on sale for $199

I'm sure it's a you get what you pay for situation but honestly I would sure hope on never having to use it, so it would just be on hand for a last resort defense situation

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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Niffla]
    #26785880 - 06/26/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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    #26785963 - 06/26/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Powerhead/Bang-stick. .  Skip to 1:40 min into video for a demonstration.



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    #26785974 - 06/26/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Double Barrel Solves Everything


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26785991 - 06/26/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You asked why the ditch gator in OTD had a joker smile, remember?  Watch the video I posted above yours to find out why.

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    #26785992 - 06/26/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Motherfucker, I know what a bang stick is, I'm the one who brought it up in te OTDS
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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26785994 - 06/26/20 11:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I just realized it wasn’t you who was asking about it.  It was Mad Muncher :smbfacepalm:

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    #26786003 - 06/26/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it was Fag Muncher, you stupid fuck!
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I'm glad you appreciates the BangStick Though. Its perty damned cool. It would be a very unsuspecting weapon. Kinda like the stunbolt that Anton toted around


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26786007 - 06/26/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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That is a sick gun. .22lr rounds can also penetrate vests :themoreyouknow:




I missed this,
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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: Fleabag Friend]
    #26786051 - 06/26/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

They are dope.  It also reminded me of the stun bolt - and now I want one.


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Re: Looking to buy first handgun for defense [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26786060 - 06/27/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I would rather take the money spent on a stunbolt, and use it for an afternoon spent tossin molotovs and drankin.
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