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REDJET2.5
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1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH
#26694889 - 05/25/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay so just harvested first flush. Things went great for the most part. Took 22 grams of fresh last night and the effects came on strong like I have experienced in the past but stalled out at the level 1 and a half mark on the trip scale. Is there something I should do differently? Is this common with ms syringes and brf tek. Should I take more than 22 grams when fresh? Any tips would help. I have 6 more jars in my sgfc that haven't fruited and another 22 that are colonizing. Here are some pics of first flush.

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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: REDJET2.5]
#26694963 - 05/25/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are looking good! As for the potency question all I can say is double the dose and Good luck!
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: REDJET2.5]
#26695059 - 05/25/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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From what I have read, you get about 1/10th dry in comparison to the fresh weight, so that would be like taking 2.2 grams dry. Of course, every batch will have different potency unless you are growing clones or isolates.
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Apples in Mono
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: SiggNature]
#26695107 - 05/25/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Potency will vary.
McKenna was delusional, if you ask me. But he did have at least one solid piece of advice, imo: FIVE GRAMS DRIED for a proper cube trip(at least)
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REDJET2.5
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26695474 - 05/25/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay great. Thanks for the info. 2nd question. I have 22 more jars colonizing. If I want to have any control over potency or yield with these jars what method would be the best to go with from here? I know potency with MS might not be controlable but maybe yield is. Or what tek should I move up to next. There are so many options. Also at this point I have spent so much time reading and researching I kind of just want someone to tell me what to do. Lol Thanks for the responses to all 3 of you. Also any advice on where to go from here.
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: REDJET2.5]
#26695485 - 05/25/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yield is dependent on proper conditions and, most importantly, genetics. So you won't be controlling yield using MS spores.
You can, however, homogenize potency by grinding up an entire batch in a coffee grinder and encapsulating them (or storing the powder although I suggest encapsulating). This method has given me consistent doses.
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REDJET2.5
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26695657 - 05/25/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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10-4. Thanks for the input. I will look into that.
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Apples in Mono
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: REDJET2.5]
#26695857 - 05/25/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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If this is really something you're interested in, you have time to get agar plates going and then you could take some clones from some fruits when you harvest those next jars. Then when you have clean clone cultures on agar, you'd make transfers from each clone, grow out those transfer dishes, noc up some jars with those transfer dishes, spawn and fruit each clone separately, sample each clone harvest, choose the most potent(and/or whatever qualities you desire), go back to it's master culture, make new transfers from that culture, grow out a bunch of dishes, and then noc up a bunch of jars with that verifiably potent clone culture. Then you just keep going back to that master clone culture for new spawn jars
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REDJET2.5
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26695907 - 05/25/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm definitely serious about it. There are so many different options and opinions here. Do you have a good agar link or tek that works for you or helped in the beggining you'd recommend?
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Apples in Mono
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: REDJET2.5]
#26696126 - 05/26/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I started with no-pour agar plates( https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976) mostly because I wanted to start immediately, the day I decided on it, instead of waiting for real petri dishes to be shipped. I also had no SAB experience and liked the idea of knowing that all of my plates would definitely be clean after prepping them. The downside is that you can't see the cultures as clearly, they're more awkward to work with in the SAB, they take longer to prep if you're doing a bunch of them, and they take up more space.
If I had to do it over, I'd probably just start with pouring real Petris https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023 especially in circumstances like yours where you aren't in a hurry to noc up plates. If you go with the petris, make sure to watch the agar videos suggested in that last link(and actually, watch em either way).
If you go with no-pours, like in the first link, make sure to watch these videos first: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032261#21032261
In fact, I recommend watching both the no-pour and petri videos before deciding, as well as reading both teks.
You can fruit to a bunch of shoeboxes when you're on the hunt for good clones. Or you could just topfruit individual grain jars if you want.
As for expanding your desirable clone culture(s) after you find one(s) you like, you could just expand it on a number of agar dishes and then noc up however many jars you want(as I said earlier), or you could expand with grain to grain transfers(Roger Rabbit's Lets Grow Mushroom's series has a good video showing this process. He does it in front of a flowhood, but the principles are the same in an SAB, aside from the air flow factor. There are other options as well, such as liquid inoculant. You'll have a better idea of which culture expansion route you'd like to take by the time you get to that point.
Here's is a fantastic master list with links to everything you need to know, if you haven't checked it out yet: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032261#21032261
Use the search function when needed to find answers to questions. Optimize your searches by using the filters like "newer than"(stay away from outdated info), "trusted cultivators", etc.
This time next year, you could have a badass culture(s) consistently pumping out dense canopies of big, potent fruits.
Hope that makes sense- I'm a little drunk
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REDJET2.5
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Re: 1st attempt, great success brf. Potency questions. PICS OF FIRST FLUSH [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26698359 - 05/27/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes that made perfect sense and s exactly what I was looking for. I have done some research and I'm leaning towards real petri dishes. Now just need to buy all the materials and obsess over some new tek for the next month. Over prep to the max and then forget it all the second Im ready to start. Lol I seriously appreciate your responses and help though!
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