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Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip
    #26691672 - 05/24/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm thinking about doing a low-dose after a work day. Last time I tripped I took 25grams fresh, which was great, psychedelic, but a little exhausting in the end.
So what's a good worthwhile dose to take so I can get to sleep early and be able to focus on work well the next day? Is this even possible?
Last time I noticed the next day I was all excited with the afterglow and my mind was all over the place, but maybe if I needed to concentrate on something it could be possible, I don't know.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26691691 - 05/24/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I find shrooms to be quite sedating during the trip but hard to sleep that night, with all the thoughts and excitement still in my head.

If you enjoy your work then it can be quite worthwhile, shrooms give me that motivation boost to do more and try new things, solve small problems that you've never noticed before etc... (the day after the trip ofc lol, not working while tripping)


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26691694 - 05/24/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I read lots of people who report feeling physically awesome the day after a trip; that is not me! I have type 1 diabetes, and I always control my blood sugars for a trip really well. But after I’ve gone to bed, my blood sugars do tend to rise. I took about 2.5g dry in a tea last night; I had planned 3.5g but at the last minute decided not to drink it all. So it was a relatively gentle trip, but for reasons I won’t bore you with (decided to leave my daughter in house,while wifey and I went to allotment for a fire and a chill out) I spent the best part of the trip resisting it. I was paranoid an]bout going home during the peak, so resisted the peak. It all resulted in a particulalrly unrewarding trip. Not a bad trip, just unrewarding. Anyway, cutting to the chase, I did not stuff my face with munchies as I can do after a heavy trip, but all the same my blood sugars jumped up to almost 18mmol/litre overnight. Feel physically worn out today dude, and won’t be going on a long dog walk today (dogs were out hours yesterday with us, so they could do with a shorter walk too :ooo:

What I’m saying dude, for me especially, is I always ensure I have NO work or commitments the following day.

If you were to dose immediately after work, and go low again say 2.5g, you’ll be done in under 4 hours. Eat sensibly before bed, hydrate fully, and get a good night’s sleep. Just be prepared to not be fully concentrated at work....

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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26691721 - 05/24/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I am thinking about a even lower dose, since I will ingest it in tea form so the peak will come rapidly. I'm thinking like 17g or something along those lines. I think I will try it out if I know my next day at work won't be too stressful. Part of the reason I am so antsy to take shrooms again is that I didn't trip this weekend like I had thought and don't want to wait till next :lol: :awesomenod:


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26691730 - 05/24/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Haha, I’ve had some real bizarre trips this year so decided to take a full month off before taking a low dose yesterday. Whenever I have more than a couple of weeks break, the next trip is always filled with anxiety. Well I’m always anxious, so I mean MORE anxious lol.

Have fun
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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26694413 - 05/25/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, guys, I'm new to this. This past Saturday I tried some Red Spore I grew. I am really only interested in micro dosing and tried almost half a gram I soaked in purified drinking water that I made into a coolaid. No heat was involved. I really didnt notice much of anything other than some sleepiness that night. What's your opinions on this ? Should it have been more noticable in some way or is that typical of a low dose ?


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26694538 - 05/25/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, how you prepare it can effect the strength. Try eating it or making a shroom tea.
Could've just been a weak batch of shrooms too, I've had 2g give barely a tickle and other times 2g can really go hard like waay more than one would expect based on the previous 2g... That's multispore for ya each mushroom has diffrent potency.
When I take MS shrooms I usually go for the minimum like 2g to get a good feel for how potent the batch is, and have noticed most of the time 2g is just enough never too strong, but sometimes it will be strong like double strong which i guess most people would find that as a welcome surprise ha.

So under half a gram of weak shrooms might lift your mood abit but nothing noticeable in my opinion.

DJ Ed has more experience than myself maybe he can chip in.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26694573 - 05/25/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

How long did you soak in cold water for? That could be the key. I would imagine cold water extraction takes a relatively long time. Heat will not hurt the psilocybin or psilocin. Best way to make an extraction is to pour over boiling water, bring back to the boil, boil rapidly for a full minute, then turn the heat to minimum for ten minutes. When cool, strain and enjoy.

I wouldn’t expect you to feel much at all off 0.5g though. But 0.5g is generally regarded as higher than a micro dose; most recommend 0.2g to 0.3g. And you shouldn’t feel anything from a micro dose.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26694983 - 05/25/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I do the same thing sometimes, intend to trip on the weekend but don't follow through. I'd just wait until the next weekend and then not have to worry about having work the next day.

If I was convinced to trip on a schoolnight, I'd lemon tek some tea which usually has me back to earth after around 4 hours.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: psysearch]
    #26695918 - 05/25/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well, thank you, Gentlemen. They are Redspores I got as freebies with my real order. I made a bottle with .46 grams in 12 ozs of purified water in the fridge for 2 1/2 days. Water turned a bluish color. I intended to use the bottle as 2 doses but since I didnt feel anything after 2 hours, I just kept sucking it down. I should've used some warm/ hot water with them I guess. Slept good though. My real order was Dancing Tigers.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26696297 - 05/26/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Had great experiences with 0.3 - 0.5 cubensis accompanied by cannabis tincture.
As for the pure macrodose territory i struggled with comedowns and low energy next days. Then tried to use Mary Jane on peak or just after and goodbye bad days. )


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: MrStinkyShrooman]
    #26696365 - 05/26/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Sunday, 3ish grams of FRESH APEs in a tea, very early in the morning (as the sun is rising and before anyone is out and about) was an incredible experience for me. It was both subtle and yet incredibly emotionally involved. I saw, with a fresh set of childlike eyes, my neighborhood and its inherent beauty. I watched the sun part the trees and I lived a thousand lifetimes as tears streamed down my face.

A couple hours later I was perfectly functional and had an afterglow for the remainder of the day.

I love the 0.2-0.5g dry (2-5g wet) doses if I'm unable to have a full psychedelic experience. But APEs really are something special at those doses. Probably closer to 1g dry of regular cubes in feeling for me.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26699132 - 05/27/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Short trip report.
Took around 11g fresh in tea on a full stomach.
I planned it this way, but in hindsight the meal I had was way too heavy, too greasy and I got some minor nausea. The trip came on quite strong (for the dose) and then peaked and very gradually descended.
After 2 hours I was really enjoying myself. Some what tired. Nice mellow feeling later and felt great to watch the sparrows in the sky.
Played guitar on my balcony. Felt good. After the effects were off at midnight, I stayed awake chatting to a friend and browsing and laughing at various things.
The negative part was that I still couldn't get sleep when I wanted to. Felt restless although I was sober and tired. Finally after taking a shower when I was sweaty, got some sleep after that. I feel like this is just an effect of the mushrooms on me, that I can't sleep for hours. Somehow my body and mind is still stimulated.
Maybe it is the stress the mushroom causes or something I don't know. Well, today I felt fine after 5hrs sleep. Busy day at work and going to bed early today.
Probably won't do this again, as the diminished sleep I get does not feel worth it.
One thing I noticed was that this was exactly like a higher dose, like 25g I took over a week ago, but in a milder way. Same kind of trip a lot. Barely any visual effects, mostly could feel it in my mind's processing and my body. Decent dose for contemplation I think, but I would still go higher and not take it on a work night. It's all good now though.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26704779 - 05/29/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to retry last weekends experiment. Today I prepared 1.04 grams into a hot tea, let steep for a while then put into fridge for tomorrow. So, I'll get back to you guys.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26714849 - 06/02/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I dont know what to think now. This time even with a tea made with hot water and just over a gram of produce the most I felt was a little sleepy but that could've been from doing stuff around the yard,small amount of sleep, etc. I wonder, is it possible I grew a strain that just isnt that strong ? I read other people say to use 2.5 or 3 grams, lightly simmered in 2 or 3 cups of water for 15 minutes. And to use the same shrooms 2 or 3 times. Anyway, I'm starting a new batch with a little amount of produce soaking in some liqueur. Thursday night I'll simmer a larger amount in some water, let it steep and then fridge it till Saturday. I was hesitant to go above 1 gram even in a tea since I'm new to this. Any experienced shroomers out there that would like to enlighten me on all this ?


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26715476 - 06/03/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Firstly it is entirely possible you have grown weak mushrooms; does happen unfortunately. But your tea method is not good dude! You don’t need to keep on brewing and brewing, and you don’t need to be afraid of heat. Pour BOILING water over the mushrooms, then bring back to the BOIL. Then BOIL RAPIDLY for ONE MINUTE. Now reduce heat and simmer gently for UP TO 10 MINUTES. Turn off heat and allow to cool, then drink. You will not get many more active compounds out if you use this method: a couple weeks back, I used this method on mushrooms that had been dried and stored in March 2017, they were supper potent.

Don’t spend hours soaking.......one minute boil, ten minute simmer.
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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26715758 - 06/03/20 04:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

IME your intuition about lack of sleep and low energy due to physical work could be the cause.
I get best results if i'm physically in best shape beforehand. Had a good sleep, good meal and full of energy.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: MrStinkyShrooman]
    #26716889 - 06/03/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you, Gentlemen. And I'll do what Eddie said.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26730258 - 06/08/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

DJ Ed, I pretty much give up on the shrooms I grew. If it's possible for magic mushrooms to have duds, I grew some. Pretty discouraging for my first grow. I tried what you instructed and again, nothing. I even chewed and sucked on a few.Oh well, I have my original spore order incubating now, they are nearly ready. Dancing Tigers.


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Re: Worthwhile dose for mid-week trip [Re: Jimbo DeMan]
    #26730282 - 06/08/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What a shame, buddy, don’t give up, the mushrooms will reward your love. If you have any spores left over, try to grow some out on agar.

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