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Storing bulk mushrooms
#26694191 - 05/25/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What is a cheap and effective way to store lots of dried mushrooms? I've used mason jars and honestly they get filled up very quick and I rather use the mason jars for grain spawn. I know you can grind it up into powder, but don't want to deal with possibly losing potency. I rather keep them in its original dried state. So where could I get some huge airtight containers? Huge as in.... a monotub but unfortunately, monotubs aren't airtight.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: ouuwee]
#26694196 - 05/25/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Buy an vacuum sealer. The rolls that you can make bags out of are cheep!
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: ouuwee]
#26694201 - 05/25/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ouuwee said: What is a cheap and effective way to store lots of dried mushrooms? I've used mason jars and honestly they get filled up very quick and I rather use the mason jars for grain spawn. I know you can grind it up into powder, but don't want to deal with possibly losing potency. I rather keep them in its original dried state. So where could I get some huge airtight containers? Huge as in.... a monotub but unfortunately, monotubs aren't airtight.
I am just using mason jars, but not those very small ones. I think they are a pint. I agree, it can be very annoying, as I am drying and filling them as my cakes fruit in my first, n00b grow. I like the mason jars, to be honest. They are glass, airtight, easy to work with, and each one gets its own desiccant. They can be somewhat cumbersome, since its hard to fit more than like 3/4 ounce of dried. Like You, I refuse to mass-powder everything at once. Since this is my first grow ever, I have taken to powdering up and encapsulating about 3/4 ounce at a time for easy consumption. When I get down low with my current 72 capsules (now down to like 40+) I'll powder another batch.
What's your beef with having a bunch of mason jars, though? I have 6 mason jars right now in various stages of fullness, and total of roughly 4+ ounces dried, labeled for species, etc. But even if the mycelium gods are really generous, and I end up with 6-8 ounces in total after all flushes, so what? I honestly believe that its better to have smaller containers so I can keep all my shrooms compartmentalized, labeled with strain and approximate dates dried. I even have two jars of randomly mixed Golden Teacher and Costa Rico. The way I see it is if I end up with a ton of dried shrooms, say about 6-8 ounces, then between at least one jar in capsules, and the rest, I will likely have about 8 mason jars. I really wouldn't want to store them all in one or two bigger containers. Another thing I consider is that I don't want to keep opening and closing large containers, which is another reason I keep them in smaller ones. I only open the jars up when I want to add more dried shrooms, until the jar is filled, or when I want to powder the contents of a jar and stuff them in capsules. Also, by using pint mason jars, with each jar getting its own desiccant, it makes everything easy to keep track of.
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When you get to the bulk fruiting stage you can pull alot of shrooms off of a tub. More than will reasonably fit in large qrt jars. This is when you need a vacuum sealer. Set it on gentle and interior it when it is almost done pulling all the air out. Just hit the seal button, otherwise it will crush all your mush.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: Sockadin]
#26694209 - 05/25/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: When you get to the bulk fruiting stage you can pull alot of shrooms off of a tub. More than will reasonably fit in large qrt jars. This is when you need a vacuum sealer. Set it on gentle and interior it when it is almost done pulling all the air out. Just hit the seal button, otherwise it will crush all your mush.
This is true. I suppose if I were a lot more experienced growing mushrooms, growing in bulk, and ended up with 20 ounces, rather than the paltry 4+ I have now, hoping for another 2 ounces when all is said and done, I would likely balk at using mason jars as well.
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I bought a case of half gallon jars thinking they’d hold more than enough but I filled them up real quick. You can cram 5-6 ounces in one if you compress them.
Now I’m doing freezer bags that hold 4-5 ounces inside a tote with a gasket lid to seal it up and desiccant packs.
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If you’re storing them long term and use a vacuum sealer, i would throw a desiccant pack in there if you don’t suck all of the air out to avoid crushing them. I bought my vacuum sealer almost a decade ago and it’s still kickin. Great investment
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: A.k.a]
#26694430 - 05/25/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mylar bags that I can fit 1/2 oz with an oxygen absorber tossed in and heat sealed. I'll be purchasing a vacuum sealer soon tho.
I was/still am using half gallon mason jars but other than feeling like an apothecary with them all filled up, storage was cumbersome and not very discrete.
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This is a lovely problem to have, haha. I look forward to the day I need to invest in a vacuum sealer.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: Zakkery]
#26694454 - 05/25/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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This got me curious so I checked it out and sterilite tubs with the gasket lids are supposed to be air tight.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: A.k.a]
#26694468 - 05/25/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried with vacuum sealer and all you get out is crumbled shrooms. While they're fine for me, I can't really pass mushroom dust to friends.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: Zakkery]
#26694521 - 05/25/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Zakkery said: This is a lovely problem to have, haha. I look forward to the day I need to invest in a vacuum sealer.
Tell me about it! I'm starting to get intimidated reading this thread, with my dinky little PF Tek grow.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned]
#26694525 - 05/25/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just don't trust anything but glass for long-term storage. Half gallon mason jars only.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned] 1
#26694589 - 05/25/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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poisoned said: I tried with vacuum sealer and all you get out is crumbled shrooms. While they're fine for me, I can't really pass mushroom dust to friends.
Same here.. Turned an ounce into about the size of a golf ball
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: A.k.a]
#26694592 - 05/25/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: This got me curious so I checked it out and sterilite tubs with the gasket lids are supposed to be air tight.
This might be what I'm looking for, hopefully other people who uses this method can chime in and tell us his/her experience with long term storage using this way. I've heard lots of people complain about how tubs are airtight but when filled with water, it leaks. So many people question whether they are truly airtight.
I was looking at home depot and I came across a 5 gallon bucket lid that is supposed to make the bucket airtight and leak proof.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite-5-gal-Screw-Top-Lid-5GAMMA6/203205720
I might be able to put the mushrooms in ziploc bags for labeling and to add a desiccant pack. Then I'll just have a huge pile of zip loc bags inside an airtight bucket/container.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: DigDug]
#26694599 - 05/25/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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poisoned said: I tried with vacuum sealer and all you get out is crumbled shrooms. While they're fine for me, I can't really pass mushroom dust to friends.
Same here.. Turned an ounce into about the size of a golf ball 
Just stop the vacuum as soon as you hear the first crunch. Dont actually suck all of the air out or you'll powder them 
Vacuum sealed is the best storage method. Jars work if you're only growing a couple Oz at a time. I dont have space for 50 jars of dry mushrooms. Plus I need those jars for more spawn
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: ouuwee]
#26694600 - 05/25/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know someone here stores them in a bucket with desiccant packs.
I haven’t had problems with ziplocks in a gasket tub but I have super low humidity so it’s not a good test of it’s capabilities.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: ouuwee]
#26694609 - 05/25/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pet food containers from Costco.. They have a rubber gasket. Cracker dry year round.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: micelio]
#26694618 - 05/25/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a crap load of sterilite gasket tubs... might have to make use of them
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LadysKnight said: I just don't trust anything but glass for long-term storage. Half gallon mason jars only.
I'm a glass guy too. 
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pureshrooming said: but other than feeling like an apothecary with them all filled up
I am decidedly living the apoccethary life, but I already was thanks to herbs, fish, jam/preserves, fermented foods, veggies, dry goods, etc. in jars by the dozen stacked on shelves galore. I like the look. Feels old-world and shit. I also feel like jars (clean, dry jars with a proper lid) store mush better than plastic. I have a couple vac sealers and don't use them much. Biggest issue is cost. Half gallons get pricey after a few cases... If I was living by the poket I would use up the half dozen rolls of bag plastic sitting on the shelf... I do keep my jars in a tote like A.k.a but started doing that to keep light out and in case of earthquakes (I put thin foam between them to bufffer).
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: ouuwee]
#26694647 - 05/25/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ouuwee said: I have a crap load of sterilite gasket tubs... might have to make use of them

Blasphemy! Those are for fruiting not storage!
Two things. Vacuum sealers work great. Like Nate said learn when to stop. And if you like to pill form your mush, learn when not to stop. You can dust an ounce in like 15-45 seconds.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: Sockadin]
#26694689 - 05/25/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sockadin said:
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ouuwee said: I have a crap load of sterilite gasket tubs... might have to make use of them

Blasphemy! Those are for fruiting not storage!
Two things. Vacuum sealers work great. Like Nate said learn when to stop. And if you like to pill form your mush, learn when not to stop. You can dust an ounce in like 15-45 seconds.
I have too many tubs so using 1 or 2 of these aren't an issue. I might get a vacuum sealer if there's an insane deal but right now I would like to work with what I already have. This hobby already made me spend more than what I imagined....
Edited by ouuwee (05/25/20 10:38 AM)
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: ouuwee]
#26694695 - 05/25/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not crazy about vacuum bags. They seem to get little pinholes from the dried shrooms and go soft in a couple of months. I tried double bags. It's a waist of time..
Just a little tip that works good for small amounts: I use canning jars. I fill the glass jars with cracker dry shrooms, then take a hairdrier and heat the air in the jar for thirty seconds. Then the jar lid for a nice vacuum seal. Months later you'll still have a nice vacuum on the jar. The lid can be removed without damage by using your fingers.
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I guess we should have had a test run on the storage container.
That was a cool experiment. Y'all did all the fun shit when I was on break..
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I still have food saver vacuumed bags from like 6 months ago holding tight. I tried off brand ones and they were garbage
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: fahtster]
#26694884 - 05/25/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried vacuum sealing like a sewer pipe or a box?
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned]
#26695113 - 05/25/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sewer pipe should work good, there again I would heat the air inside the pipe with a hair dryer before installing the end caps. You should be able to get a nice vacuum when the air inside cools. A little silicone could be used to insure a airtight seal.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: micelio]
#26695116 - 05/25/20 02:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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So you making mushroom pipe bombs? Seems like if you get raided that would scare the shit out of the feds.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: Sockadin]
#26695177 - 05/25/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Luckily, I don't live in the US
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned]
#26695208 - 05/25/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hahah
Just explode and blast shrooms everywhere.
They’d probably try to get you for chemical weapons.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: A.k.a]
#26695216 - 05/25/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol, I was actually thinking how one could dump a big bunch of shrooms on a festival floor without getting busted. Maybe sewer pipe is the way to go.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned]
#26695226 - 05/25/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pvc pipe works well, a 4 or 6" pipe 2ft long will hold pounds of dried mush. Iv thought about burying parcels in my area, if you vacuum seal the mush then put the vac bags inside of a pvc pipe you could easily hide alot. In 3rd grade we made time capsules that we put into pvc pipes and buried them and they were good for 15yrs.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: MH5109]
#26695271 - 05/25/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was thinking more like the other way around. Put bag around the pipe and vacuum it.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned]
#26695274 - 05/25/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why, the pipe itself is the barrier from the outside, you don't need another barrier that is far less rigid than the sch80 pvc.
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#26695316 - 05/25/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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MH5109 said: Why, the pipe itself is the barrier from the outside, you don't need another barrier that is far less rigid than the sch80 pvc.
I think the idea is that it will allow the bag to remain the same volume, without pulverizing the shrooms into dust.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: DigDug]
#26695347 - 05/25/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Who is pulverizing the mush, you just vac the bags till you start to hear them cracking then you stop and seal. After that you put the vac bags in the pipe and put caps on both ends. The pipe itself will shield the contents inside of pipe, your mush, from moisture, light, and shock (getting crushed). Then you can hide, bury, or throw them in the ocean for all it matters the contents inside of the pipe will be safe. The shitty thing is you have to cut the pipe open to get the contents out but thats no different than a vac bag. I also throw a desiccant pack in the vac bag for long term storage.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: MH5109]
#26695529 - 05/25/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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MH5109 said: Who is pulverizing the mush, you just vac the bags till you start to hear them cracking then you stop and seal. After that you put the vac bags in the pipe and put caps on both ends. The pipe itself will shield the contents inside of pipe, your mush, from moisture, light, and shock (getting crushed). Then you can hide, bury, or throw them in the ocean for all it matters the contents inside of the pipe will be safe. The shitty thing is you have to cut the pipe open to get the contents out but thats no different than a vac bag. I also throw a desiccant pack in the vac bag for long term storage.
I doubt you would have to cut the pipe. Don't use glue. Tap the cap on and tap the cap off with a hammer. you may need to silicone the seam after the cap Is all the way on. Maybe..!
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: micelio]
#26695633 - 05/25/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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mylar ziplock bags then heat seal em
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: hamonz]
#26695681 - 05/25/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silicone eventually gets funky and weak, see windows. I say glue both end caps, it's guaranteed. But while we're brainstorming, if you happen to also be a homebrewer, and happen to have 5gallon kegs, fill, purge, seal?
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For sure, if you don't glue the end caps you are not keeping the inside contents from the outside. My time capsule had papers and a little action figure that was literally in the ground for 15yrs and everything was fine nothing got wet or degraded, because the outside was kept outside of the pvc container. This is one of those things that you may not check for a while, if you just want to store them for a few months vac them up and throw them in a box somewhere, you don't have to go to extremes, but I have always loved the idea of burying things for safe keeping so this thread is fun.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: MH5109]
#26696001 - 05/26/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Time capsule with shrooms sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Storing bulk mushrooms [Re: poisoned]
#26696116 - 05/26/20 02:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like to use freezer ziplock quart and gallon bags. 1oz per quart, 4 quart bags in a gallon ziplock. Fit a few quarter-pound sacks in a latch lid tote  Plenty of redundant seals to keep your good stuff good. Look for 2.5 Gal freezer ziplocks also.
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