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O.T. Oss
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Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks
#26694045 - 05/25/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aloha Everyone, I’ve been thinking a lot lately about language. (I think it’s important to note here that I’ve been reading a lot of Terrance McKenna) I’m sure most everyone here is aware of Mckennas theory of how mushroom consumption in early hominids help evolve language. If your not it’s a fascinating idea, and I would highly recommend looking into it if you think it sounds interesting. The reason I bring it up is because It seems ( to me at least) that some of the neural imaging being done across the globe on people under the influence of pscilocybin show an increased connectivity in neural networks. https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/ That doesn’t prove mckennas theory but the current research + mckennas theory + a once a month 10g dose brought forth a theory of my own that I would like to share. It’s on the similarities of beneficial nutrient distribution in root structures & neural networks. In my theory I make the claim that certain Fungi (introduced into our body) can move neurotransmitters around our brain the same way they move nutrients around tree/plant roots. Ive created a video ( ) where I show evidence of how this could be possible. The beneficial symbiotic relationship between trees and fungus is similar (at least in my opinion) to what happens in our brain under the influence of psilocybin cubensis, if you take a look at the brain scans (fmri....etc) coming from recent university studies such as the link from Hopkins up above or links readily available at MAPS.org you will see a striking similarity. My last trip was incredibly in depth, like I was being given information or blueprint of some kind. It is extremely difficult to bring back coherent ideas from heroic doses yet I have found if you can write down your ideas pre-trip That you will at the very least be shot out in the right direction. It is this last trip where I was given this idea of our fractal nature. You can see my video here Allow me to try an explain and thank you for taking time to read this. Here is a visualization exercise you can do that will better help you understand. Imagine a giant tree, look to the top and slowly move your eyes down the enormous trunk untill you reach the base. Good! Now imagine your in the warm embrace of a magical quicksand that gently lowers you below the ground level so you can see the root system. dont panic this magical quicksand Also infuses your body with oxygen so you do t suffocate! The current root system you see here is very similar to what you would see if you could peer into the human nervous system. (Did anyone see that bodies exhibit that toured around the world a few years back....it’s like that! To add add an extra dimension think of a world map or globe. You know the one! Look close you can see all the black lines strewn across representing shipping lanes. Maybe you’ve seen a more recent version (I would recommend Dr. Pharag Kannas book) that shows the supply chains of our planets natural resources distribution. Which brings us full circle to the beginning of this post. Language! Supply chains move the planets natural resources vital to our life, our neural networks move the rains natural resources vital to our life, the tree roots move natural resources vital to the tree. All three maps...a supply chain map, neural network image, tree/vegetation root structure are uncannily similari if brought to Scale. I’m working on making semi-transparent images that could be laid on top one another that may verify my theory. If so we may be able to learn how to cure brain trauma by streamlining supply chains or help stroke victims by understanding root structure. You may be thinking hmmmmmm what the fuck does that have to do with pscilocybin mushrooms? First off I got this idea from the mushroom, Second the mycelium of several fungi act as an extension of root structures. A symbiotic relationship in which the fungus creates better functional connectivity. Better Functional. Connectivity means healthier trees, better supply chains ,and according to science higher IQ. So please LMK what you think. I would be grateful to get some constructive criticism on my abstract video Warm Mahalos O.T.
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: O.T. Oss]
#26694244 - 05/25/20 05:44 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
O.T. Oss said:
My last trip was incredibly in depth, like I was being given information or blueprint of some kind. It is extremely difficult to bring back coherent ideas from heroic doses yet I have found if you can write down your ideas pre-trip That you will at the very least be shot out in the right direction.
Constructive criticism may include the similarity of this quote from your post with the dream state which is not induced by a questionably dangerously large dose of psilocybin.
I like your theory but question the dosage you are taking, and the assumption that your progress is dependent on large doses.
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Forrester
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: Buster_Brown]
#26694314 - 05/25/20 06:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I always start to question when people call taking large doses of drugs "heroic".
I don't mean to criticize, I've just always wondered what was heroic about it. Don't get me wrong, I've done it plenty, I just ran into the same issue you mentioned, that it's difficult to bring back much from it. You seem to have brought back something but I can't make heads or tails of it or I would comment more, sorry.
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O.T. Oss
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: Buster_Brown]
#26698547 - 05/27/20 04:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice thanks for taking time to respond. I think it’s fair to say that 10g doses can border on irresponsible. For me I’m comfortable with the risk. I’m not looking to go beyond that threshold, yet I feel like altered states of consciousness may be an arena where one has the possibility of acquiring new knowledge. I’m always thankful for the feedback. The 2 comments I’ve received allowed me to tighten up my idea into a bit more digestible format. LMK what you think Warm Mahalos
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: Forrester]
#26698562 - 05/27/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can understand the whole heroic thing. For me it’s two fold. One Terrance McKenna is a legend! I find comfort in his words of wisdom ( I know it sounds kinda lame but...what are you gonna do) Two, in all honesty I get scared looking at a big pile knowing there are more than likely going to be some rough spots. By the way it’s nice to meet someone who partakes in the 10g club. We probably have a lot in common even if it is just the struggle to bring back a coherent idea from the oceans of chaos. I wanted to say thanks for your feedback, because of it I was able to sand down and polish my thoughts. If you get an opportunity I would be stoked to see what you think about cut 2 above Warm Mahalos O.T.
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Forrester
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: O.T. Oss]
#26698752 - 05/27/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didn't mean to judge your dose-taking and imply that it was irresponsible, there are times in our life when it can be necessary and beneficial if we're careful.
I was just picking at the wording - which you didn't invent either, I've heard large doses called "heroic" for decades, I just think it's odd wording
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: Forrester]
#26698785 - 05/27/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eating a lot of mushrooms doesn’t mean one is brave, nor heroic. It can also mean one is very stupid, or a number of things - since any fool can simply perform the act of mere ingestion. It’s as easy as eating a big bag of potato chips - seeing as many people eat a high dose at some point while experimenting with psychedelic fungi. However, it is the dreamlike psychedelic trip that we are presented with after having eaten them, and how appropriately one composes & conducts themselves and why one does it knowing full well there is no escape till it’s over & no going back...here and now - one must face the fullness of themself & the emptiness of themselves, naked and essentially alone- that is what I believe dictates if one is truly brave or heroic. More or less. Imho.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (05/27/20 07:34 AM)
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Re: Fungal symbiosis to augment, amplify, & maximize neural networks [Re: O.T. Oss]
#26715652 - 06/03/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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how exactly is this brain optimizing fungus symbiote going to come to fruiton?
You do realize that it isnt the fungus, but the alkaloid 4-HO-DMT that makes you trip...right?
Probably not because if you did, you would have also realized that your entire premise, Quote:
" . It’s on the similarities of beneficial nutrient distribution in root structures & neural networks. In my theory I make the claim that certain Fungi (introduced into our body) can move neurotransmitters around our brain the same way they move nutrients around tree/plant roots
is completely false. alkaloids and fungus are completely different beasts. One a living organism the other a mind-altering chemical. Because of this fact, any comparison or use of the word "same" regarding mycorrhizas (symbiosis between fungi and trees) and tripping(mind altered by alkaloid) seems utterly ridiculous.
This isnt to say i totally disagree with the idea of "fractal information" you describe in your last, longest, and hardest to read paragraph... Word of advice: break that shit up, make it pleasing to the eyes. Walls of text with zero format suck balls to read.
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