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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Caps McGee]
#26693268 - 05/24/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Imo/Ime cubes don't need much oxygen at all to thrive so I've always seen FAE as evaporation and nothing else
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Caps McGee]
#26693282 - 05/24/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Caps McGee said: No... totally different animal... Avery's albino is a true albino Cambodian
See this is what happens when you take breaks.. damn I thought AA+ was Avery albino.. what is AA+ then?
Also I agree with Meteah on that last post... They benefit from fresh air during the fruiting stage for fruit formation, but I feel (with no specific scientific background) that in a stale air environment the mycelium will recolonize and abort fruits and pins to conserve energy until the conditions are optimal for fruiting. So with low FAE or PAE your gonna get a pinning trigger, then fruits, then fuzzy feet, then aborted fruits all because of the lack of RH fluctuating over low oxygen and high CO2 levels. I really do not want to go buy a 300 dollar meter that tests O2 levels....
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26693313 - 05/24/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Suckadin bro you always misspelling my name
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Mateja] 1
#26693326 - 05/24/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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No I got it right. You misspelled it in your avatar!
Btw love the slurry in the picture of the day post!
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26693332 - 05/24/20 06:13 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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you're right I'm sorry I spoke too soon
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Caps McGee]
#26693402 - 05/24/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Even better. Shrooms need AE
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Apples in Mono] 1
#26693438 - 05/24/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Friggin shroom nerds thread
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: LadysKnight]
#26693452 - 05/24/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haha. Well shit. This should be retitled no advance mycology thread.
I will work on the OP tomorrow. I'm tired.
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: LadysKnight] 1
#26693462 - 05/24/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lady’s Knight - don’t forget to colonize at 86f in a TiT, cold shock, scrape with a fork, and then place in a hermetically sealed chamber with a drip shield 
Sock will you be updating the first post with little bullet points of outdated stuff? Gems might get lost in the chit chat
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Roger Clemency] 1
#26693476 - 05/24/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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and don't forget the foil on top of the sub to 'induce pinning'
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Mateja]
#26693497 - 05/24/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Mateja]
#26693527 - 05/24/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
and don't forget the foil on top of the sub to 'induce pinning'
Hey that shit works if you have a dry climate!
At least I remember when RR told me to do it...
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin]
#26693614 - 05/24/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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When a tub is choking it’s definitely from lack of air.
I can’t imagine a mushroom getting long and skinny from lack of evaporation.
If you meant lack of evaporation in the sense that evaporation moves the air and facilitates the fae then totally.
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: A.k.a]
#26694255 - 05/25/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I get that long skinny fruit thing. Learned the hard way in my youth. That is why we have fruiting conditions like good air movement in unmoded tubs or moded tubs. I was drunk posting last night again haha.
I guess my point was that mycelium can handle low o2 levels but requires alot more fresh air when it starts to produce fruit. Which we all already agree on.
But for reals, Mateah laying a plastic sheet or tin foil can help get surface conditions right before fruiting if you have poor surface conditions to start with and haven't gotten the dialing it in thing down.
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26694313 - 05/25/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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1) Conditions thread is still relevant
2) Holy grail plates
3) Pasty plates
4) no boil coir
5) stros culturing guide
6) agar liquid culture
7) liquid inoculation
8) a2g, g2g
9) for fruiting PE, tedsdead has a good one for PE with a two top layer method.
10) for bulk sub prep the real way, look at filthy write up on methods in his journal. This applIes to streamlining processes for bulk growers and how to utilize time management and methodology for the home bulk cultivator
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26694696 - 05/25/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: A simple example is that Caps said we should start renaming Frequent Air Exchange Passive Air Exchange. I like it and and running with the idea, but it can be confusing especially since I always thought FAE stood for fresh air exchange.
I find it hilarious that this message board makes up such a large percentage of the mushroom cultivating community, that you guys can just rename that shit if you want.
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: DigDug] 1
#26694702 - 05/25/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Isn't that how science works? All the people in the community suggest a change and change is made? This is all consensus based Cultivation. The real mushroom farms have their own names for shit too I'm sure.
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin]
#26694927 - 05/25/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not just renaming it, nor would I assume the authority... but I will be using PAE or AE personally, bc I'm TIRED of misnomers lol... AA+ if I'm not mistaken, is just a luecistic variant of the variety A+ misnomer as an albino bc its white... furthermore, I believe A+ and B+ were 2 isolations of the same wild specimen... if anyone could confirm or deny/correct would be appreciated
Another change I'll adopt is Lotkid's use of WBF rather than WBS... as the majority of the food is grain specific, not simply seeds... Wild Bird Feed more accurately describes the product across brands
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Caps McGee] 1
#26694934 - 05/25/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds good to me. I never really messed with AA+ until someone sent me one this year. Really a name is just a name. Doesn't matter all that much.
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Re: 2020 Updated Cultivation Methods, Tools Technqiues [Re: Sockadin]
#26694938 - 05/25/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Unless you've an extensive library of active cultures and special requests lol
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