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Subaeruginosa and MAOI
    #26692420 - 05/24/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Has anyone tried subs with caapi/rue?

How is the potency increase?

I want to try this with 1 or 2g initially, and potentially explore the interaction with different species


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Re: Subaeruginosa and MAOI [Re: Awaken_Us]
    #26694928 - 05/25/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Never had Subs, but I combined Cubes with pure harmalas several times.

It all depends on the ammount of harmalas. A full dose of harmalas (3 to 4g of raw rue seeds, or 200mg of pure harmala alkaloids) will potentiate the mushrooms very noticably. Like 2x.
But it's a different feeling, it's not like they are twice as strong as before. To me it feels as if the harmalas add some dmt effects ontop of the mushroom effects, making them stronger overall.
Feels a lot like ayahuasca.

The duration is also multiplied. The shrooms work several hours longer with a proper harmala dose.

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Re: Subaeruginosa and MAOI [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26752567 - 06/17/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It sounds like it unlocks more potential.

To go deeper into the experience of each different mushroom, unlocking full power, potential to redose also sounds very appealing.

I can imagine something like Psilocybe aucklandiae which is already very strong by itself combined with harmalas could really take you places.

4g of Rue when ive had it with mimosa made me incredibly sick and light sensitive for 24hours after experience ended.

i see so much conflicting information on potency increase with harmalas, some say 2x as strong, others say 6x. thats a huge difference


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Re: Subaeruginosa and MAOI [Re: Awaken_Us]
    #26752619 - 06/17/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I experience roughly 2x increase in strength when using harmalas and cubensis mushrooms, with some increase in trip length also. I would love for them to boost the mushrooms by 6x, much less needed for lovely trips hahaha


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Re: Subaeruginosa and MAOI [Re: MindMeower]
    #26752774 - 06/17/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

i think im going to opt for extracted harmalas over raw rue.

and ill start at 1g probably first just to see how much stronger it hits.

will take me awhile, i need to source rue


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Re: Subaeruginosa and MAOI [Re: Awaken_Us]
    #26752794 - 06/17/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I did the extraction because the tea is nothing along the lines of tasty. There's a big difference in consuming a pinch of powder vs a cup of nasty tea. Process is time consuming but well worth it.


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Re: Subaeruginosa and MAOI [Re: MindMeower]
    #26753363 - 06/18/20 04:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

that rue tea was the most revolting taste ive ever experienced, more just how it sat in my stomach and was nauseating beyond anything, it felt toxic to me.
and ive had plenty of sharp cactus brews and a few aya experiences with caapi.


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