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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26690963 - 05/23/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds to me like obama saying what he did is pretty much equivilent to trump jokomg about Russia hacking emails.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691027 - 05/23/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Omg that guy looks like someone you see when you’re on shrooms. Never seen a dude wear so much makeup.

Really dude you can’t get more ridiculous a source than Lou Dobbs



Good to know what's important to you.  I tend to listen to the actual content and weight it against the available evidence.

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Obama didn’t target or spy on Flynn. Obama was spying on the Russians and Flynn was caught up in that surveillance. What’s the problem?



Since when is it the President's job to spy on the Russians?

Obama is the one who told his intelligence that they need to watch out for Flynn after learning he wanted better relations with the Russians.  The beginnings of Russia-Gate.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691106 - 05/23/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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What’s wrong with investigating? There was plenty of cause to do so. But all the FBI misconduct you allege happened concerning Flynn occurred after Obama left office.



I thought the Democrats said you cant investigate political rivals

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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26691109 - 05/23/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We always spy on the Russians.

If Obama wanted to set trump up why would he have warned trump about Flynn. The russia stuff was later. The first concern was Flynn was lobbying on behalf of Turkey while being part of the trump transition.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #26691135 - 05/23/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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What’s wrong with investigating? There was plenty of cause to do so. But all the FBI misconduct you allege happened concerning Flynn occurred after Obama left office.



I thought the Democrats said you cant investigate political rivals




How were they political rivals? The election was over. Flynn was undermining US policy. He was lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. He was doing some pretty shady shit. He’s a fucking convicted felon because of it.

Obama was still president and Flynn had no business making behind the scene agreements with Russia. Then he lied about it. Not just to the FBI. To trump and pence. Don’t forget Flynn was fired within two weeks of Trump taking office. Stop blaming the Obama administration for doing their fucking jobs.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691194 - 05/23/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah it's a giant nothing burger...


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691313 - 05/23/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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We always spy on the Russians.



You sure made a big deal about it when you found out they spied on the DNC.  Glad you now know.

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If Obama wanted to set trump up why would he have warned trump about Flynn. The russia stuff was later.



What did Obama warn Trump of exactly?  The "Russia stuff" started when I first talked about it on in in July 2016.

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The first concern was Flynn was lobbying on behalf of Turkey while being part of the trump transition.



That was debunked over three years ago.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691322 - 05/23/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Flynn was undermining US policy. He was lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. He was doing some pretty shady shit. He’s a fucking convicted felon because of it.



Source, or make believe?  I only heard he was convicted of lying, not for doing anything else wrong.  And those charges got dropped by the Justice Department because they talked about setting him up to lie beforehand.

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Obama was still president and Flynn had no business making behind the scene agreements with Russia.



Trump had already been elected, and Flynn wasn't making any "agreements".


You should change your signature to "I'M KOODS, AND I LIKE TO MAKE BELIEVE!!!"


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26691363 - 05/23/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Source, or make believe?  I only heard he was convicted of lying, not for doing anything else wrong.  And those charges got dropped by the Justice Department because they talked about setting him up to lie beforehand.




The charges can’t be dropped. He’s already been convicted. Flynn’s fate is entirely in the hands of the judge. (Unless trump pardons him)


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691379 - 05/23/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That'll teach me to trust CNBC or the Justice Department.

Justice Department drops criminal case against former Trump aide Michael Flynn


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26691407 - 05/23/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

HE’S ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED. :facepalm:

Prosecutors cannot simply undo convictions once they have occurred. They have to convince a court to make that happen. Flynn told the judge he lied to the FBI. Part of that plea was him agreeing to not attempt to back out of the deal. The judge is not happy that Flynn is now saying he lied to the court when he plead guilty, and Flynn could end up in contempt of court for doing so.

Flynn is responsible for the situation he’s in, and it’s a travesty that trump and his attorney general are trying to unduly influence the process. This is the kind of corrupt bullshit that happens in countries that do not respect the rule of law.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691415 - 05/23/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, I reported on it BEFORE Trump and the attorney general weighed in.

Your thought process is painfully simple:

Is Flynn on the Trump team?  Yes
Guilty!!!

Some of us put more thought into it than that.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26691435 - 05/23/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

hes guilty because he pled guilty. Why don’t you believe Flynn’s own words?


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691460 - 05/23/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You seem to have missed the entire story in the other thread.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691461 - 05/23/20 11:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are you trying to imply that coercion never happens? The claim is he was coerced
into pleading guilty. Are you saying that's impossible?


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: natedawgnow] * 2
    #26691505 - 05/24/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Plea deals are worked out in detail with lawyers from both sides. The man isnt some rube. He had high paid lawyers. He pled guilty twice. Swore what he was saying was the truth.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26691506 - 05/24/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So you are implying that it's impossible?

Just trying to make sure I fully understand your argument


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26691513 - 05/24/20 12:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are you talking about in general, does it happen. I didn’t happen in this case. The man is a general who was one of the highest ranking members of the government. He told a judge under oath he wasn’t being coerced.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26691949 - 05/24/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Are you trying to imply that coercion never happens? The claim is he was coerced
into pleading guilty. Are you saying that's impossible?



I think his point is that the type of "coercion" that allegedly happened to Flynn happens to 95% of all defendants across the country.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #26692018 - 05/24/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

He was free to take his case in front of a jury. It’s not coercion that he and his legal team decided that choice was too risky.


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