coAsTal said:

Hey, any of you experts ever try to submerge your sub on Zap grows?

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Psilocybe zapotecorum, a species first fruited on a medium of moss, was grown both on straw and horse dung composts in glazed earthenware pots designed to retain water. The mycelial laden compost was cased with calcareous sand and then completely submerged under water. Magnificent Psilocybe zapotecorum mushrooms came up right through the water! This interesting phenomenon is in keeping with the "subaquatic" ecological nature of the species.

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I marvel at how finicky home cultivation seems to be when the natural conditions are wildly variable with success-- any thoughts on that?

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mycorry said:

Keep in mind that cultivating zaps is 100% about "quit resistance". I have shed tears over some of my failures. You just have to be able to pick yourself up and try again.

It's extra tough because they thrive on neglect but demand consistent conditions. It's a tightrope walk of intuition.

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Man, my zaps have been in fruiting for 44 days now. I'm not sure I've learned anything myc looks great just no damn pins.

I'm pretty sure my temps are too high. House is at 72, but inside the tub it's around 74.

Asura said:

mycorry said:

Keep in mind that cultivating zaps is 100% about "quit resistance". I have shed tears over some of my failures. You just have to be able to pick yourself up and try again.

It's extra tough because they thrive on neglect but demand consistent conditions. It's a tightrope walk of intuition.

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Man, my zaps have been in fruiting for 44 days now. I'm not sure I've learned anything myc looks great just no damn pins.

I'm pretty sure my temps are too high. House is at 72, but inside the tub it's around 74.

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That is an aspect of zaps I have yet to understand. I have been working with two zap cultures in general for a few years and one I have never gotten to fruit but the other fruits easily at 80F. I just cant keep the damn pins alive for more than a few weeks with my current setup.

My third set of zap genetics is almost ready for fruiting. I hope it's an actual fruiter

Jakeoncid419 said:

They look like subtrop
They are hard to print and ur already a lil late on the larger ones. I often need to triple expose subtropicalis prints to get them dark enough.

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Yep. They don't quite look like Hoogs. If they are there may yet be a little hope for the big ones. Just a little. With Semperviva I watch the gills with a magnifier.. or used to. Eventually, with practice, you won't need it. Anyways, look for purpling of the spores on the gills. When you see it start watching the stem. All of it. Top of the cap too. The spores are smaller than Cubensis and can travel all over the place. They usually drop a week or so from becoming visible on the gills so don't get too excited when you see them.  Vivas have a long sporulation window once they get going.

straightedge said:

Had a fun grow this spring with Ps. subtropicalis (CaptainFuture's semperviva...). These things want to fruit so bad they were popping off the agar in days. Surprisingly high yield for a thin mushroom, though some specimens reach 9-10 inches in height.

Pasteurized straw pellets, nearly 1:1 spawn ratio (5 qt straw pasteurized at 170 degrees for 2 hours in a presto).

New favorite fungus.

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Brain Bulb said:

What’s up all, needed to step away from social media for a while but am back. . How’s it going?

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BB! It's good to have you back!

The pandemic has had some of us much more focused on exotics than usual

Adas said:

Wouldn't it have more to do with nutrient availability rather than culture age?

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It is implied.

As in, the culture has been fruiting for years in that spot so it has used up nearly all of the initial nutrition that was there early on and any subsequent flushes(over years) are made possible through the newly available nutrition made through the natural decay of its surroundings. So every years new fruits are made possible thanks to what nutrients it could scrape together that season.

So far my hypothesis only applies to subtropicales and caerulescens because of my experience with them, but I imagine it could also apply to many others.

This could also explain in part why wild mushrooms are generally more potent than cultivated. The cultures with the most pesticide content(psilocin, psilocybin, etc...) survive the longest, but that hypothesis is more of a wild guess than a good explanation. Kind of a survival of the fittest of a multispore inoculation instead of the cultivated way of keeping everything perfect for whatever culture can fruit.

Celestialexplorer1 said:

Just curious what kind of straw pellets did you use? By the way great work looks like it worked wonders.

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Thanks, just straw pellets for rabbits (not hay), moistened to field capacity. I like to add a drop of dish soap and a teaspoon of CaOH (hydrated lime), then pasteurised. Then I cased with peat+verm.



https://www.amazon.ca/OXBOW-Bene-Terra-Eco-Straw-20-Pound/dp/B0017JGBAQ

straightedge said:

Had a fun grow this spring with Ps. subtropicalis (CaptainFuture's semperviva...). These things want to fruit so bad they were popping off the agar in days. Surprisingly high yield for a thin mushroom, though some specimens reach 9-10 inches in height.

Pasteurized straw pellets, nearly 1:1 spawn ratio (5 qt straw pasteurized at 170 degrees for 2 hours in a presto).

New favorite fungus.

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Absolutely gorgeous grow sraightedge! Thanks to Mycorry sharing the love I now have a subtropicalis culture on the move. If it performs half as well as yours has I'll be very pleased.

Here's a jar of indoor P.subs starting to fruit. Hopefully some fruits will form at the surface too.

bobwastaken said:

Absolutely gorgeous grow sraightedge! Thanks to Mycorry sharing the love I now have a subtropicalis culture on the move. If it performs half as well as yours has I'll be very pleased.

Here's a jar of indoor P.subs starting to fruit. Hopefully some fruits will form at the surface too.

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YUS!!!!!!

We get to see your sub work too?!