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experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) 2
#26686858 - 05/21/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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so exactly how nutritious is coir? Can it support fruits without grain?
I saw someone do this a few months ago but they used grain so it kinda defeated the purpose. Figured id see what happened, not expecting much
So i took a pint jar, filled it with field cap coir, sterilized it, and injected exactly 3ml of FULLY colonized, rhizo burma LC
The 3ml of LC initially contained exactly .005g (5mg) of LME, all of which was eaten by the myc before inoculation
Did this about 2 mo ago, growh was super slow and so rhizo that it looks like plant roots. Never fully colonized, but finally have at least one invitro pin
I suspect most of this was fueled by the LC, but its quite interesting the way the myc developed into rootlike structures (which the pin is growing out of), and lots of aerial myc thats hard to see in the pics. The structure w the pin growing out of it is aerial, not attached to the glass, and well above the substrate
Anyway, just thought i would share, since others may find this interesting
 
I wonder if more water would make it grow more..
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o] 1
#26686936 - 05/22/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That myc looks like its so focused on finding nutes its in laser focus mode. Crazy
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26686962 - 05/22/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: so exactly how nutritious is coir? Can it support fruits without grain?
I saw someone do this a few months ago but they used grain...
Sorry, I couldn't help but find that shit hilarious af. I spit a little wine out as I was reading it
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26686986 - 05/22/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smartattack said: That myc looks like its so focused on finding nutes its in laser focus mode. Crazy
I thought so too. I wonder what it would do w more fae and water?
Im really curious to see what the fruit weighs dry, compared to the 5mg of LME in the LC
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c10h12n2o said: so exactly how nutritious is coir? Can it support fruits without grain?
I saw someone do this a few months ago but they used grain...
Sorry, I couldn't help but find that shit hilarious af. I spit a little wine out as I was reading it
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26686988 - 05/22/20 12:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apples in Mono said:
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c10h12n2o said: so exactly how nutritious is coir? Can it support fruits without grain?
I saw someone do this a few months ago but they used grain...
Sorry, I couldn't help but find that shit hilarious af. I spit a little wine out as I was reading it
Its like...someone did something , but they actually didn't do it?
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Smartattack]
#26686999 - 05/22/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Smartattack said:
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Apples in Mono said:
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c10h12n2o said: so exactly how nutritious is coir? Can it support fruits without grain?
I saw someone do this a few months ago but they used grain...
Sorry, I couldn't help but find that shit hilarious af. I spit a little wine out as I was reading it
Its like...someone did something , but they actually didn't do it?
It's like I have no idea what they did. The only thing I know is they used grain
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26687013 - 05/22/20 01:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is the thread i was referring to. They used agar and grain, w coir on top. And linked to another similar one
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26494829/fpart/all/vc/1
Just to be clear i didnt expect anything at all here, at least not more than could be fueled by 5mg LME , i just wanted to see what would happen and if it could fruit at all, and if the dry fruit would outweigh the 5mg LME
Nothing practical or revolutionary lol, just satisfying a curiosity and sharing the laser myc pics
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26687018 - 05/22/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cool experiment 
I see a lil pin there. It must be working
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26687036 - 05/22/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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How about another experiment but with manure??
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: 7even] 1
#26687038 - 05/22/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dilaudid said: How about another experiment but with manure??
I think that one has been confirmed in nature many times over haha
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26687052 - 05/22/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I kinda feel like people think I'm making fun of the thread. Definitely not. It was just funny how that read. I had no more information to begin with than the title of the post so it was like "what happens with COIR ONLY(no grain)' Then the post was like "I saw another dude try this, except he used GRAIN"(CUE MY LAUGHTER).
That's all. As I kept reading I picked up the rest.
Cool fuckin mycelium-on-the-hunt pictures
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Apples in Mono] 3
#26687058 - 05/22/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Naw mane, you got it, im glad my attempt to be funny didnt go totally unlaughed at
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o] 1
#26687076 - 05/22/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mane, you gotta try summa this cheap wine I'm drinkin.
Edit:You really don't tho
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26687083 - 05/22/20 02:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was thinking of expanding your idea in the future and doing coir mixed with some BRF
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26687087 - 05/22/20 02:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I was thinking of expanding your idea in the future and doing coir mixed with some BRF
God dammit.
I can't tell if that's a joke
Or if it's brilliant
Or both
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Apples in Mono] 2
#26687108 - 05/22/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Next bring coir to field capacity using LC and top with a dry rice flower filter.
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26687112 - 05/22/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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hold up are we talking coir jars? using the structure of the coir to hold the nutes? I feel like that might be good for stone producers, but that's pure conjecture from my very limited experience
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: sabinastreasure] 1
#26687131 - 05/22/20 02:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I was thinking of expanding your idea in the future and doing coir mixed with some BRF 
Im pretty sure that would work fine for bottle tek, muda used a coir based recipe sometimes
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ModularMind said: Next bring coir to field capacity using LC and top with a dry rice flower filter.
That would work, especially w a nutrient rich lc
W my experiment i wasnt trying to acheive a practical way to grow anything tho, i knew it wouldnt get far or fully colonize, i just wanted to see how far it could stretch those 5mg of LME
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sabinastreasure said: hold up are we talking coir jars? using the structure of the coir to hold the nutes? I feel like that might be good for stone producers, but that's pure conjecture from my very limited experience
Would probably work, but I think straw would probably work better for something like that. And grain even better lol
Stones are so dense i think they benefit a lot from high nutes
I just wanted to see what, desperate, starving, malnourished myc could do on coir haha
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26687146 - 05/22/20 03:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It really is awesome how it'll form those thick strands when it's searching for nutrients. I wonder if we could maximize the length and thickness of a single rope of desperately seeking mycelium in a long bag or something. With the right inoculant and the right substrate and moisture
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Re: experiment: fruiting off STRAIGHT coir (no grain) [Re: Apples in Mono]
#26687147 - 05/22/20 03:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats along the same lines as what i was thinking... nothing practical, just curiosity.
I also wonder if its looking for fresh air
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