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blazemikeanon
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First Cultivation Attempt
#26685014 - 05/21/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey there. First time post here. This is my first attempt at growing from inoculating in spawn jars and fruiting. I went wrong somewhere. The colonization in the jars seemed to go well. I colonized them at 80°F on some 5 grain mix and the jars looked very healthy. The bottom took forever to colonize and come to find out I should have been turning the jars over to let some CO2 out. Anyway for 1.5 pint jars it took about 2 months to completely colonize. I birthed the cakes over soaked perlite 5 days ago. A few jars looked dry or brown. I immediately got the humidity up and the temp down to 75°F. A couple days later the brown cakes had green mold. I almost threw out the entire batch because I thought the white growth looked odd. I read up on it and some people don't worry about the green mold too much and that the white growth is mushroom growth that is possibly not getting enough FAE. So I pulled out as much infected growth as I could see and tossed it and turned my air pump on to an hour every other hour. That was 1.5 days ago. The last picture should be this morning which is one week from birthing and still no pins. Any ideas? Are they just slow starting? I will welcome any advise so that I can improve on the next run. I know I will not dive right in next time and will grow far fewer jars to get the process down. Thank you for reading and for the advise.
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I didn’t even know jars like that existed those are super long.
Did you dunk the cakes for 24 hours? Two months is a long time with no water.
Personally I think shoeboxes are way way easier than fruiting cakes, you should grate one of them up into coir just to compare.
None of those look contaminated but you should roll them in verm too.
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Edited by A.k.a (05/21/20 08:02 AM)
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Are you sure you saw green and not blue? No green is good.
I’d also be interested in the tek you followed with 1.5 pint jars to make 5-grain cakes.
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Re: First Cultivation Attempt [Re: A.k.a]
#26685186 - 05/21/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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These are grain jars? You will need to bulk it with something, most commonly used is Coir, or CoCo Coir. I am curious to see how this one turns out. Fruiting directly from grains can be really hard to do because they need more water for fruit development.
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Re: First Cultivation Attempt [Re: A.k.a]
#26685203 - 05/21/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are these strictly a mix of grain? Like with no vermiculite in the mix.. If so you don’t want to fruit them as cakes as they won’t hold nearly enough water to support any real flushes, especially without being dunked and rolled in vermiculite, though that still would be far from ideal.
I don’t see any contamination either just dryness.
Those jars are not good for cakes for the reason you discovered- long and thin so the bottoms will have trouble colonizing, they are a fine size for grain spawn though.
Here is all the reading you need to be rolling in mush for as long as you care to - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
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I clearly should have done more research on the type of media and jar I was getting into. I took the "easy" route and bought a kit and jars from Midwest Grow Kits. The jars are their "5 Grain Quick Colonizing Jars." Each jar contains a 24 ounces of nutrient-enriched organic rye berries and a mixture of mineral water fortified with gypsum & diammonium phosphate. This new blend features higher ratio of small grains allowing for faster colonization times.
I wanted to leave it as cakes because what may have been a mistake on my part but I tried 4 different species and I wanted to be able to distinguish them from one another.
Is there any way to save this grow? I will do some more research and hopefully get it right the next time. Should I pull the vermiculite out of the bottom and break up all the jars? Is it too late in the game to do this?
Thank you!
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You just have to label stuff to know what’s what right?
I didn’t even see that they were grain I just assumed brf cakes.
I would definitely go buy some coir and break those up into it.
If they’re pint and a half you could make a shoebox from each one, or put two jars in each shoebox.
It’s so much easier. Just mix it up and wait for mushrooms pretty much.
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Re: First Cultivation Attempt [Re: A.k.a]
#26685543 - 05/21/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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