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MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip?
    #26685008 - 05/21/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys! Since this is my first post I wanna start by thanking all of you for this community and the incredible work on making micology easy and fun!

If this post would be better off in other subforum please give me a heads up.

So, let's start with my story. As an optimistic first time grower, I may or may not have made mistakes along the way.

I got my hands on a spore syringe that was probably one year old and wanted to try it. I succesfully made 5 1/4 pint PF cakes that colonized well and fast. After a couple of days of full colonization of the cakes, I decided instead of fruiting directly from the cakes as advised for the novices, to go bulk with coir.

The coir I got my hands on were fertilized with NPK and were already processed and soft, not compressed in bricks like most of here.

I follow the bucket tek and with a small unBODified tub, all of the cakes were clear white with a wonderful mushy smell and no signs of contams.
I grated the cakes with a cheese grater and optimisticly in a ratio of 1 to 6 in volume, spawned to coir on may 5 with no casing layer and with a liner.

Where I live it's winter and the air is really dry (close to RH of 30%), the temperature throught the day range between 55 and 72. I think I went wrong choosing not to case it.

The substrate went really fast and good for the first 10 days, and have since show not much progress.

Well, for now it looks like the surface matted down. On the top of the substrate I can recognize 2 shy little pins and some even shier (is this a word?) knots, BUT some mushrooms have succesfully made their way through the line, coming from all the way down of the sub. There's 3 sidepins for now that are way more developed than the surface pins, one MONSTRUOS that made his way from the bottom of the substrate. The pics follow.

So, my question is, do you guys think it's a good thing to try to ignore these shy pins on the surface and flipping the block of the substrate? Or maybe forget about it and let things sort themselves out?

Are my surface conditions trash? If so, what can I do instead of flipping it?

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!



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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: Januariodo] * 1
    #26685100 - 05/21/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

No that looks decent.

Just make sure to keep humidity up and tiny water beads on the surface.


The reason it went really fast for 10 days then stopped is cuz it colonized everything and switched into fruiting mode.

The myc will start to look a little different and get knots and pins like you’ve got.


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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26685194 - 05/21/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks A.k.a!

I really can't find a way to get good surface conditions. Whenever I mist, the mycelium gets glossy instead of having tiny beads of water.
There are only some little portions of the surface with almost microscopic water beads, and on the majority of the surface there are some small spots of what looks like a thin layer of standing water over glossy mycelium.

Furthermore, the headstart this bottom pin got on the rest of the tub is outstanding, I'm adding more pics to show how enormous this bottom pin is, and the glossy effect on the substrate.

The pics doesn't do justice to how glossy the mycelium really is, because it reflects light weirdly I can't get it to show right in the pics, but these will at least ilustrate it a little the lack of beads



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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: Januariodo]
    #26685206 - 05/21/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Don't flip it.

Looking good so far.


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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26685247 - 05/21/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I know what you mean about the gloss. To me it always looks likes it’s turning to plastic.


It seems to happen if it dries out too much. And then once it does it doesn’t hold water the same and i don’t think I’ve ever seen it go back to normal.

Not a huge deal though it’ll still do fine.


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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26685571 - 05/21/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks guys!

Just so I don't fuck it up further, since I see I find myself needing to choose between a dry surface or a little moist surface with some small spots of standing water.

What would be the least harmful choice?


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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: Januariodo]
    #26685769 - 05/21/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I just try to keep humidity really high when it happens.

I’ll mist it super lightly now and then but for the most part there’s not much you can do. Maybe case it.


Your pictures look ok though i don’t think it’ll make a difference unless it gets way worse.


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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26687572 - 05/22/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That's very nice to know! I'm updating with some more pics just so you guys can see the weirdness of this tub =P

I think it's safe to say it's a good thing to try to clone the giant ass mf on the side, right? I've never seen so much difference in development inside a tub like I see in mine, and I know the spore syringe was old as hell but still I'm impressed =D

EDIT - Also, I think I'll need to do a crazy harvest with this, am I right? Would it be bad to harvest each mushroom at a time since they're so far away from each other?



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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: Januariodo]
    #26687665 - 05/22/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It looks like you're on the right track.  Check out comebackkid's surface conditions thread for more information (in my sig).


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Re: MS/PF/Bucket/UnBODified, surface matting. Flip? [Re: trip_hazard]
    #26687723 - 05/22/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Man, I can't find it on your sig! Sorry for the noobage.

Also, about the crazy harvesting, can you guys offer comments on it?


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